2/4-2/10 Game Discussion Thread

[redsrule]

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Can you imagine being one of those people leaving early? They missed a once in a lifetime game.

I would have drove my *** back to the arena. Of course I'm not one to leave games early, so it wouldn't have mattered.

[phenom1990]

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Damn I'll have to check that game on replay tomorrow. Hopefully ESPN replays it.

[SidVish]

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Pitino: "Lets give them credit. They made the most ridiculous three's I have ever seen."

[l3ulvl]

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Pitino: "Lets give them credit. They made the most ridiculous three's I have ever seen."

I feel like Beilein should've said this

[ZM Punk]

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If you didn't know Russ Smith was JR's little brother you know now.

[iRepIndiana]

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Damn I'll have to check that game on replay tomorrow. Hopefully ESPN replays it.

It's dick vitale's game of the week. Airs on ESPNU tomrw

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If you didn't know Russ Smith was JR's little brother you know now.

If I had no prior knowledge on this, I'd probably believe that after watching his last few games.

[lonewolf371]

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Rooting for Purdue tonight against Sparty

A futile effort at the moment.

[iRepIndiana]

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A futile effort at the moment.

not a fan of Purdue but i like Painter

[weeeeeeez]

Must win today.

[iRepIndiana]

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Must win today.

For both schools.

[VDusen04]

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failing to guard the inbounds pass (AGAIN), and not fouling on the final play.

Hey I wasn't able to see the game yesterday (thankfully). When you say "final play" are you talking about the half court shot? Or are you referring to something that happened in overtime? If it's the former, I agree with you about the inbound pass. Though, I suppose the idea was to prevent getting beat deep, which would be just about the only way for a team to get a good three point look with that little amount of time left and the ball on the opposite baseline. Still, I think I'm with you and I would have placed a defender in front of the ball.

On the flip side, I'm not sure I agree with the idea of fouling, at least when a team must go the length of the floor and try to find themselves a good three point look with 2.4 seconds remaining. Even when a team is inbounding in the half court, I tend not to be an advocate of the foul-when-leading-by-three strategy because I feel like it introduces a lot of unusual scenarios (player fouling as opposition begins to shoot immediately; opposition fouled without shooting but hits first free throw, misses second and has rebound won and tipped; making both, creating panicked turnover and regaining possession now only trailing by one, etc.).

I'm not a fan of giving up clean looks at game tying shots, but I am a fan of forcing the opposing team into shooting a super contested, leaning, falling away, 43 foot three pointer. As a coach, I'd take that shot any day of the week from my opposition. In this case, the fellow just hit a miraculous shot. It was incredible. There's really nothing a team can do when something crazy like that occurs.

Of course, if you were talking about fouling in another situation and not this one, then clearly I'm wildly off base.

Edit: Of course, the minute after I write all of that, I see a video of John Beilein saying he wanted to foul but his players just didn't. He mentioned it wasn't a situation that's really easy to establish and execute. Also, it sounds like there were fouls to give. Is that true? That'd almost convince me more not to foul. If Caris fouled in that situation, at half court, suddenly there's an inbound at half court with about 1.4 seconds left. To me, that creates a much more realistic scoring opportunity for Wisconsin. But who knows.

Beilein also talks about putting someone on the ball and expressed his fear of losing a one-on-one jump ball at the other end of the floor, so he wanted McGary down there as safety. And that's something I can understand as well. I'd still prefer guarding the ball, but I guess he was thinking the makeable pass and play would be an almost blind chuck to the opposite three point line and in that case, McGary's not affecting that pass and the aforementioned jumpball takes place at the other end.

Basically, I think there's merit to any decision a coach makes in that situation but usually, when a crazy shot is hit, I tend to just call it a crazy shot and move on. It's really not as if Wisconsin executed their play to perfection and got the clean look they wanted. Whenever the strategy goes wrong, we always like to pretend the other strategy would have been a sure thing, but I do not believe that. Sometimes teams succeed in completing the incredible regardless of what the opposition throws their way. In this case, Michigan threw a defensive scheme that forced a 43 foot ultra-contested, leaning desperation heave. It was just... a special play made by Wisconsin.

[iRepIndiana]

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Really think we win today after laying a goose egg in Illinois.

[sportznut02]

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Maybe I am crazy but I think Indiana wins by 8 or more today. I just think that IU is a bad match up for OSU.

[weeeeeeez]

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Too many weapons for IU.