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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

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    Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

    Might have Brandon Jennings Part Deux...



    The nation's No. 1 high school guard, Southern Methodist University signee Emmanuel Mudiay of Dallas, has been considering hiring an agent and taking a job playing overseas next season, sources told Yahoo Sports.
    No decision has yet been reached on how Muiday will proceed, sources told Yahoo Sports.

    Mudiay, an explosive 6-foot-5 guard, has been projected as a lottery pick in the 2015 NBA draft. The Chinese Basketball Association has been discussed as a possible destination for Mudiay, a native of the Congo.

    Mudiay has had ongoing conversations with SMU coach Larry Brown and university officials about his ability to become academically eligible to play his freshman year, sources told Yahoo Sports. Mudiay has wanted to play for the Hall of Fame coach at his hometown school, but there are concerns about the NCAA clearing him to play for the 2014-15 season, sources said.
    FYI, he has been accepted and is currently enrolled at SMU. Of course as we all know, getting cleared by the NCAA to compete is an entirely different animal.
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  • TheBrothers24
    SD/LA Chargers?
    • Sep 2007
    • 1915

    #2
    Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

    Wow, how can he accept a scholarship before being cleared to play? Doesn't he have to be cleared by the NCAA before he can sign?
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    • Rocky
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6896

      #3
      Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

      Originally posted by TheBrothers24
      Wow, how can he accept a scholarship before being cleared to play? Doesn't he have to be cleared by the NCAA before he can sign?
      That's what I thought too. Also, does this mean that he can't participate in team activities? Because staying at SMU and praticing/studying film with the team might be better than moving to China for a year.
      "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
      -Rocky Balboa

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      • redsrule
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        • Apr 2010
        • 9396

        #4
        Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

        Has nothing to do with eligibility concerns. Going overseas to help his family. Huge loss for SMU. Potential earnings one year overseas <<< what he could possibly make by staying at SMU and developing his game. Just my opinion of course.
        Last edited by redsrule; 07-14-2014, 01:09 PM.
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        • ehh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 28962

          #5
          Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

          Originally posted by TheBrothers24
          Wow, how can he accept a scholarship before being cleared to play? Doesn't he have to be cleared by the NCAA before he can sign?
          Being accepted by a college/university and being cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse are two different things.

          A college can accept whoever they want, it's entirely up to them. They even have control over who they elect to play in an NCAA sporting event however no school will put a kid on the field/court that hasn't passed through the NCAA Clearinghouse. If the player is ultimately ruled ineligible all games that player participated in would be forfeits so there's no point in a team/school risking it.

          This happens all the time in college basketball. Incoming freshman are sitting around for Sept, Oct, November and sometimes into December waiting for a final ruling from the NCAA. It's ridiculous, the NCAA can drag their feet and take their sweet time, they do not care how many games a freshman misses.

          Enes Kanter was on campus at UK and waiting for a while until the NCAA deemed him ineligible. Found an article - it wasn't until Jan 7th of that year that the NCAA made it's final ruling on Kanter.

          Charlie Villanueva missed the first 5-6 games at UConn his freshman year while the NCAA dragged out his eligibility investigation.

          There are examples of this every year, it's really unfortunate. I think it's much more prevalent in basketball as opposed to football because basketball recruits are constantly changing high schools as well as attending shady "basketball factory" prep schools. Makes their transcripts much more difficult to verify - apparently.

          Originally posted by Rocky
          That's what I thought too. Also, does this mean that he can't participate in team activities? Because staying at SMU and praticing/studying film with the team might be better than moving to China for a year.
          He can do everything EXCEPT compete in games. He's on scholarship, practicing with the team, taking classes, traveling with the team (there may be new/separate rules on travel these days), etc.
          Last edited by ehh; 07-14-2014, 02:31 PM.
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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #6
            Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

            Originally posted by redsrule
            Has nothing to do with eligibility concerns. Going overseas to help his family. Huge loss for SMU. Potential earnings one year overseas <<< what he could possibly make by staying at SMU and developing his game. Just my opinion of course.
            Is that the inside scoop? I barely follow recruiting anymore. Not sure why he would waste his time or SMU's if that's his mindset.

            I can't imagine the Chinese league is going to be paying him that well, though it's obviously better than nothing.
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            • redsrule
              All Star
              • Apr 2010
              • 9396

              #7
              Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

              Originally posted by ehh
              Is that the inside scoop? I barely follow recruiting anymore. Not sure why he would waste his time or SMU's if that's his mindset.

              I can't imagine the Chinese league is going to be paying him that well, though it's obviously better than nothing.
              Yup. According to his statement at least. One year isn't going to make a huge difference tbh, and he would grow a lot more at SMU than he will wherever the **** he is going to play next year.


              The NCAA is a joke though. Kanter is ineligible but other guys that took money just have to repay it and are fine.
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              • PhantomPain
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 3512

                #8
                Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                Originally posted by ehh
                Being accepted by a college/university and being cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse are two different things.

                A college can accept whoever they want, it's entirely up to them. They even have control over who they elect to play in an NCAA sporting event however no school will put a kid on the field/court that hasn't passed through the NCAA Clearinghouse. If the player is ultimately ruled ineligible all games that player participated in would be forfeits so there's no point in a team/school risking it.

                This happens all the time in college basketball. Incoming freshman are sitting around for Sept, Oct, November and sometimes into December waiting for a final ruling from the NCAA. It's ridiculous, the NCAA can drag their feet and take their sweet time, they do not care how many games a freshman misses.

                Enes Kanter was on campus at UK and waiting for a while until the NCAA deemed him ineligible. Found an article - it wasn't until Jan 7th of that year that the NCAA made it's final ruling on Kanter.

                Charlie Villanueva missed the first 5-6 games at UConn his freshman year while the NCAA dragged out his eligibility investigation.

                There are examples of this every year, it's really unfortunate. I think it's much more prevalent in basketball as opposed to football because basketball recruits are constantly changing high schools as well as attending shady "basketball factory" prep schools. Makes their transcripts much more difficult to verify - apparently.



                He can do everything EXCEPT compete in games. He's on scholarship, practicing with the team, taking classes, traveling with the team (there may be new/separate rules on travel these days), etc.
                And at least in one instance the NCAA can clear a player twice, the school play him for the year and make the championship game (because any coach would do that if the NCAA clears a player), then the NCAA can make him ineligible and make that school forfeit all their wins and their Final Four banner.
                #WeAreUK

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #9
                  Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                  This article is a little more blunt, and definitive, than Woj's. He's officially gone, and it was officially all about the money.



                  Emmanuel Mudiay will be skipping college and making the jump to the professional ranks overseas for a season, according to a report from Scout.com.

                  Mudiay, a 6-foot-5 lead guard from Dallas, is the No. 2 recruit in the Class of 2014. He’s expected to be a lottery pick whenever he becomes eligible for the NBA Draft. He committed to his hometown SMU Mustangs over Kentucky last summer and was a pivotal piece in the expected breakthrough for Larry Brown’s team; he’s the biggest reason that NBCSports has SMU as a preseason top ten team.

                  Jean-Michael Mudiay provided NBCSports with a statement from Emmanuel:

                  “I was excited about going to SMU and playing college basketball for coach Larry Brown and his staff and preparing for the NBA, but I was tired of seeing my mom struggle. After sitting down with my coach, coach Brown, and my family, we decided that the best way for me to provide for my mom is to forgo college and pursue professional basketball opportunities. I am grateful for coach Brown’s guidance and support. I am grateful for Prime Prep and Coach Forsett for making me into the player that I am today. This is in no shape or form because of the NCAA or any eligibility issues.”

                  His statement differs from a myriad of reports that this decision stemmed from amateurism concerns and the potential that he’d end up ineligible to play in college.

                  That there were potential eligibility issues aren’t all that surprising for Mudiay. He’s spent the past two seasons at Prime Prep, a charter school founded by Deion Sanders that has been in the news quite a bit for the issues that they have had running and funding the program. It’s not a secret that every athlete at Prime Prep would have to wrangle with the NCAA over their eligibility. Almost a year ago to the day, LSU freshman Jordan Mickey and TCU freshman Karviar Shepard were initially ruled ineligible by the NCAA, but they won an appeal a few weeks and were allowed to play immediately.

                  But according to multiple reports, the reason that Mudiay made the decision to turn pro are concerns over his status as an amateur, not issues with Prime Prep’s academics. There are people that are worried about a looming NCAA investigation.

                  Brown released a statement Monday afternoon as well: “Emmanuel has decided to pursue professional basketball opportunities. This is not an academic issue, since he has been admitted to SMU, but rather a hardship issue. After talking to Emmanuel, I know he really wants to alleviate some of the challenges his family faces and recognizes that he has an opportunity to help them now.”

                  Losing Mudiay is just a devastating blow for Larry Brown’s club, as he had a chance to be the AAC Player of the Year on a team that was likely the favorite to win the league. He’s a powerful and athletic lead guard that can take over, an elite, game-changing talent. Put him on the floor with some of SMU’s other players – Nic Moore, Markus Kennedy, Yannick Moreira, Keith Frazier, Ben Moore — and allow Brown to work his magic moving those chess pieces, and you’re looking at a Final Four caliber club.

                  Without him, the Mustangs should still making the NCAA tournament and compete with the likes of Memphis and UConn for the league title, but that special season they were on the brink of having? That’s likely out the window.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • TheBrothers24
                    SD/LA Chargers?
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1915

                    #10
                    Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                    Good for him. If he can go make a few hundred thousand to send back home to his mom and then make millions 1 year later, I say do it. It's just him studying basketball abroad for two semesters.
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                    • cavsfan2
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3902

                      #11
                      Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                      Im surprised more 5 star recruits dont do this. I guess the college experience is too much for alot of these guys to pass up.
                      One year of college education is literally worth nothing, so why not earn some money?

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                      • dickey1331
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                        • Sep 2009
                        • 14285

                        #12
                        Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                        I swear SMU can never get a break.
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                        • phenom1990
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                          Disappointed because I was very interested in being able to see him up close at least once when AAC conference play started. I'm guessing he would be signed by one of the top teams in China and usually the American player gets paid well there. Since he is going overseas, I would think it would be most beneficial if he could play for a team in the Euroleague or at least one in Spain or Germany.
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                          • TheBrothers24
                            SD/LA Chargers?
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1915

                            #14
                            Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                            @WojYahooNBA: Emmanuel Mudiay's one-year deal with Guangdong of the China Basketball Association will pay him $1.2M, source tells Yahoo Sports.

                            Details starting to emerge.
                            "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #15
                              Re: Emmanuel Mudiay mulling a move overseas, cites eligibility concerns

                              $1.2M, god bless ya, brother. Do you.
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                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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