The Official 2015 "Running Commentary of Every Single Game" Thread

[JJJones135]

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How on earth is the one and done killing college basketball? I think people say that because they are upset that the talent isn't more spread out because most of these guys go to big name programs who have a history of sending kids to the NBA. Bo Ryan is a idiot if he wouldn't take an Okafor or towns for one year. Any coach who wouldn't take such talent for a year bc they think "it's killing college basketball" is just ridiculous. I thought top talent guys like Okafor and towns made college basketball even more exciting to watch this year.

Oh and to Bo and any Wisconsin fans whining about officiating. Here ya go.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...d=0CCoQMygIMAg

[ImTellinTim]

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I don't see anything wrong in that picture or the gif of the play either. The shot clock is not up simply when the shot clock shows 0 - there is a whole second that still needs to run down (0.99 down to 0). If you time out the gif it seems like he gets it off before a second has passed.

Sure it's close, but it's an either way call.

EDIT: Now come to think of it, don't we effectively have a 36-second shot clock since it starts at 35? I've always understood that there's a second after it shows 0, but maybe I'm wrong?

[PhantomPain]

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I don't see anything wrong in that picture or the gif of the play either. The shot clock is not up simply when the shot clock shows 0 - there is a whole second that still needs to run down (0.99 down to 0). If you time out the gif it seems like he gets it off before a second has passed.

Sure it's close, but it's an either way call.

That's incorrect. The shot clock does not move from 35 seconds to 34 seconds until 1 second is removed. So if the clock is at 0, that means it has already gotten past the last 1 second.

This shows the replay of the shot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGBqhcAfQnQ

[ImTellinTim]

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I must be thinking of the NBA then. Pretty sure they show the tenths.

In any case the refs did not cost Kentucky that game just like they didn't cost Wisconsin the game last night.

[jeebs9]

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They need a tenth seconds clock like the NBA has now. It's just too close either way. I know the pictures show different. It seems like a very tough call. The NCAA better look into a replay center like the NBA has lol

[ehh]

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In the last 13 months Bo Ryan has become quite unlikable. This guy needs to learn to lose with class. Not a big fan of his in-game coaching either.

Congrats to Duke, that was probably the most likable team in Duke history. Feels weird saying that. You had to go and win #5 right after we caught up to you with #4 last year, huh?

[BunnyHardaway]

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In the last 13 months Bo Ryan has become quite unlikable. This guy needs to learn to lose with class. Not a big fan of his in-game coaching either.

Congrats to Duke, that was probably the most likable team in Duke history. Feels weird saying that. You had to go and win #5 right after we caught up to you with #4 last year, huh?

For me personally, you guys ended J.J.'s best shot at winning a title in 2004, so let's call it even

[jeebs9]

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Refs never had the replays we had lol bs

[roadman]

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If the can't find the right angle of the replay the TV viewers see, they should tinker with the system or get rid of it altogether.

The Badgers didn't lose because of the refs, that's on them, but I didn't know coach K complained at half time to the refs about his team having more fouls.

I don't know if that talk had an influence on the calls in the second half.

[JJJones135]

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I must be thinking of the NBA then. Pretty sure they show the tenths.

In any case the refs did not cost Kentucky that game just like they didn't cost Wisconsin the game last night.

That was my point. Don't whine about officiating when calls went ur way in the previous game just as bad. But no kentucky lost because of kentucky not playing like Kentucky its that simple.

[JJJones135]

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If the can't find the right angle of the replay the TV viewers see, they should tinker with the system or get rid of it altogether.

The Badgers didn't lose because of the refs, that's on them, but I didn't know coach K complained at half time to the refs about his team having more fouls.

I don't know if that talk had an influence on the calls in the second half.

What coach doesn't whine to the officials. Bo sure does he asked for them to go the monitor at look at flagrant fouls about 5 times so far in the tournament.

[roadman]

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What coach doesn't whine to the officials. Bo sure does he asked for them to go the monitor at look at flagrant fouls about 5 times so far in the tournament.

Heck, Bo does it all the time on TV, not just in the tournament.

I read an article that said at halftime Coach K pulled the refs over to him and was seen talking to them. I wouldn't have mentioned anything if the article didn't specifically point it out.

[DamnYanks2]

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The officiating is god awful. It took center stage in the tournament this year. So many awful calls, and you just have to wonder how? My thing with the refs is, they aren't gonna get them all right, but be consistent.

But they can't even manage to do that. The ending of the Kentucky, Wisconsin game was brutal, and then we get the same result in the championship game. It's pretty clear to me, they get caught up in the action, and begin to favor teams, and they can be the prime reason for momentum shifts.

Something has to be done, but I doubt anyone has the balls to do it. With that being said congratulations to Duke, I hate to say it, but this group is extremely likeable. Coach K is a damn legend, what he has done in his time there is remarkable.

[JJJones135]

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The officiating is god awful. It took center stage in the tournament this year. So many awful calls, and you just have to wonder how? My thing with the refs is, they aren't gonna get them all right, but be consistent.

But they can't even manage to do that. The ending of the Kentucky, Wisconsin game was brutal, and then we get the same result in the championship game. It's pretty clear to me, they get caught up in the action, and begin to favor teams, and they can be the prime reason for momentum shifts.

Something has to be done, but I doubt anyone has the balls to do it. With that being said congratulations to Duke, I hate to say it, but this group is extremely likeable. Coach K is a damn legend, what he has done in his time there is remarkable.

I agree with everything you just said. I never blame officiating for a loss usually because you just can't use that as a valid excuse. That being said I've watched a lot of games where a team gets a few consecutive stop on defense and nails one or two clutch shots and the shift in momentum feels like it carries them to the victory. That flow can be interrupted by a bogus out of bounds, shot clock violation, or foul call.

I just don't see how the shot clock violation happens. I would imagine even with the crowd noise, I think ite obviously noticeable and if you watched the Uk Wisconsin game it's not like any of the officials were out of position.

The out of bounds call is also ridiculous from their explanation. Watching it from a neutral perspective on a 50/50 call I would've gave it to Wisconsin but I don't think it was a 100% definitive it went off Winslow. The excuse tho that they didn't have the same angle is absolute bull crap. IF you ever see the official actually at the monitor they're usually always playing the same video as what the broadcasters are showing. Therefore I don't believe they wouldn't have it for the national championship.

I think the refs need to tone down on the foul calls to especially late in games. I also think they need to bump up the foul limit to 6. I realize getting the other team into foul trouble is a strategy and gameplan but with all the bogus and ticky tac fouls called they need to give the players a break.

[ehh]

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How on earth is the one and done killing college basketball? I think people say that because they are upset that the talent isn't more spread out because most of these guys go to big name programs who have a history of sending kids to the NBA.

In way it's the opposite - the one and done era is allowing programs like Butler, Wisconsin and Virginia to thrive. Which makes it hilarious that Bo Ryan is running his mouth. Current college basketball game is simply a dice roll of talent vs experience. Some years talent wins (this year, UK '12) and some years experience wins (UConn '11 and '14, UL '13).

Experience (combined with so-so talent) has far more power now than it's ever had in the college game because the powerhouses very rarely have experienced teams these days. Duke just won a title with freshman scoring every single point in the second half. That's insane.

There are more good teams but far fewer great teams. Personally I think 2009 UNC was the last great college team we've had (sorry UK '12).

One-and-dones, especially ones that have minimal impact (say a Josh Selby or Cliff Alexander at KU) cause more harm than good to the blueblood programs. No continuity, no stability and you put your time and effort into a kid who's on campus for nine months and barely gives you anything on the court. Just from a program/winning perspective, Self would have been better off landing a 4-star kid who will be around for a few years and grow with the program. The kid doesn't want to be in college, might as well let him go to the NBA/D-League.