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  • jd@os
    Roster Editor
    • Jul 2007
    • 3716

    #286
    Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

    Originally posted by DamnYanks2
    Normally I agree. I hear what you are saying. But Coach K isn't this squeaky clean guy. It's an absolute lie. And I'm glad to see him gone. And I'm glad that tour is over.

    Don't get me wrong he's a legendary coach. But one day the dirt will come out on him.

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    Today's that day.

    1) One of my fav things about college hoops is the non-challenge road games. For instance, since in the 2000s, UNC has had true home-and-home games with Kentucky and both UConn/Arizona when they were good. Coach K is notorious for dodging true (non-challenge) road games. There was a story when discussing such a series with Lute Olson, K suggested that Duke's home game be at Cameron and the road game be at Madison Square Garden. Many people should know that K loves to play at MSG, but what many people don't know is that Duke gets many students from the NY/NJ area and that's why it's their home away from home.

    2) When a coach goes out, I don't think they should be attributed the assistant coach's losses, but K took it too far. Another story out of Duke said that K actually went to make sure he wasn't given the losses accrued by Pete Gaudet in 1995. The NCAA was going to give the L's to Gaudet anyway, but for K to go check on that? Wow.

    3) Duke was losing to some team that had a player throw up a shot in the final seconds to avoid a shot-clock violation and it went in. I'm old school and say take the violation, but again, K took it a step further and criticized the kid post game. It's fine to think it, but it's better when you keep your mouth shut for the sake of professionalism.

    4) He seems quite petulant to me. Watch some Duke games and you'll see right after a team or tv time out, K immediately starts fussing at the refs; not sometimes, but a lot of times. No Duke player has ever committed a charge in his eyes; he makes Rasheed Wallace look tame when it comes to this.

    5) Calling out his own team (senior night) and player (last night) isn't cool.

    6) This whole "Brotherhood" thing is a direct ripoff from Carolina's "family". I assume most if not all colleges do this in some form, but UNC was known as early as the 90s for having a "family": Jordan coming back to Chapel Hill to play Stackhouse, Stackhouse vs Carter, May vs Hansbrough, etc. The "brotherhood" angle just seems manufactured to me: they got that, but we got this.

    7) Let's be honest: he wanted this farewell tour to stroke his ego. There was no way that this man was going to go quietly into the night.

    Now all that said, I agree with jeebs: I don't necessarily like the hate towards the guy; "hate" is strong. I happen to think he's the best college hoops coach ever, in front of Wooden and Smith. But as you alluded to, the image many people have of him as a fine leader of men is a crafted lie.

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    • Sinner
      All Star
      • Jun 2003
      • 5483

      #287
      Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

      Originally posted by jd@os
      Today's that day.

      1) One of my fav things about college hoops is the non-challenge road games. For instance, since in the 2000s, UNC has had true home-and-home games with Kentucky and both UConn/Arizona when they were good. Coach K is notorious for dodging true (non-challenge) road games. There was a story when discussing such a series with Lute Olson, K suggested that Duke's home game be at Cameron and the road game be at Madison Square Garden. Many people should know that K loves to play at MSG, but what many people don't know is that Duke gets many students from the NY/NJ area and that's why it's their home away from home.

      2) When a coach goes out, I don't think they should be attributed the assistant coach's losses, but K took it too far. Another story out of Duke said that K actually went to make sure he wasn't given the losses accrued by Pete Gaudet in 1995. The NCAA was going to give the L's to Gaudet anyway, but for K to go check on that? Wow.

      3) Duke was losing to some team that had a player throw up a shot in the final seconds to avoid a shot-clock violation and it went in. I'm old school and say take the violation, but again, K took it a step further and criticized the kid post game. It's fine to think it, but it's better when you keep your mouth shut for the sake of professionalism.

      4) He seems quite petulant to me. Watch some Duke games and you'll see right after a team or tv time out, K immediately starts fussing at the refs; not sometimes, but a lot of times. No Duke player has ever committed a charge in his eyes; he makes Rasheed Wallace look tame when it comes to this.

      5) Calling out his own team (senior night) and player (last night) isn't cool.

      6) This whole "Brotherhood" thing is a direct ripoff from Carolina's "family". I assume most if not all colleges do this in some form, but UNC was known as early as the 90s for having a "family": Jordan coming back to Chapel Hill to play Stackhouse, Stackhouse vs Carter, May vs Hansbrough, etc. The "brotherhood" angle just seems manufactured to me: they got that, but we got this.

      7) Let's be honest: he wanted this farewell tour to stroke his ego. There was no way that this man was going to go quietly into the night.

      Now all that said, I agree with jeebs: I don't necessarily like the hate towards the guy; "hate" is strong. I happen to think he's the best college hoops coach ever, in front of Wooden and Smith. But as you alluded to, the image many people have of him as a fine leader of men is a crafted lie.
      I feel the same way about all this, have been saying for awhile how Duke doesn't play a true road game till the ACC starts and they also have a big fan base in NY. Have heard a few stories about recruits also.
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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47565

        #288
        Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

        I'm sure you could find solid dirt in every single high level coach and school. Recruits getting treat like ****. Come on now. That's as old *** time.

        UConn get a beat down on South Carolina on the boards. They really might get blown away here if they don't wake up some how.
        Last edited by jeebs9; 04-03-2022, 08:49 PM.
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47565

          #289
          Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

          Gamecocks defense is outstanding!! They have shut down literally everything. Making UConn look like lower seed
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          • Speedy
            #Ace
            • Apr 2008
            • 16143

            #290
            Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

            Originally posted by Sinner
            I feel the same way about all this, have been saying for awhile how Duke doesn't play a true road game till the ACC starts and they also have a big fan base in NY. Have heard a few stories about recruits also.
            Stories?

            Care to share? [emoji56]
            Originally posted by Gibson88
            Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
            It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47565

              #291
              Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

              Yoooo sideline reporters confused the name of Aaliyah Boston and Aaliyah Edwards. Boston was not having it [emoji1787][emoji23][emoji1787]
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              • jd@os
                Roster Editor
                • Jul 2007
                • 3716

                #292
                Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                Originally posted by jeebs9
                I'm sure you could find solid dirt in every single high level coach and school. Recruits getting treat like ****. Come on now. That's as old *** time.

                UConn get a beat down on South Carolina on the boards. They really might get blown away here if they don't wake up some how.
                So true. I was on vacay at a Florida resort and struck up a conversation with a guy sitting next to me. Turned out that his company supplied athletic equipment like knee braces for injuries/post surgeries to a lot of college teams.

                He asked me in all his years dealing with head coaches who I thought the cleanest one was. I didn't know, and he said all of them skirted the rules with the exception of one: Bobby Knight. He said he went out to eat with Knight (while he was still coaching) and an Indiana player, and when the check came, Knight told his player to pay for his own food because he wasn't gonna go down for something as little as that lol. But yeah, he said all of them cheated.

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                • DamnYanks2
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 20794

                  #293
                  Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  I'm sure you could find solid dirt in every single high level coach and school. Recruits getting treat like ****. Come on now. That's as old *** time.

                  UConn get a beat down on South Carolina on the boards. They really might get blown away here if they don't wake up some how.
                  For sure. I'm just sick of the charade that Coach K is this wonderful man of impeccable morals. That's the issue I have. Miss me with that bs.




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                  • jd@os
                    Roster Editor
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3716

                    #294
                    Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                    Originally posted by Speedy
                    Stories?

                    Care to share? [emoji56]
                    Don't know about Sinner but Vince Carter said Coach K came to his house to recruit him and that K was very physically animated. Carter said he couldn't tell and had no idea about K's "back issues" that caused him to sit out that same year.

                    Also read from more than one source that K knew he had #1 recruit Harrison Barnes locked up, but when Barnes announced he was going to UNC, K threw a profanity-laced fit that included threats to the jobs or people working in the basketball office that had nothing to do with recruiting.

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                    • l3ulvl
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 17234

                      #295
                      Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      I'm sure you could find solid dirt in every single high level coach and school. Recruits getting treat like ****. Come on now. That's as old *** time.

                      UConn get a beat down on South Carolina on the boards. They really might get blown away here if they don't wake up some how.
                      UConn would've had a hard time winning even with Dorka in the paint, SC is just that good
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                      • jd@os
                        Roster Editor
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3716

                        #296
                        Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                        Originally posted by jd@os
                        3) Duke was losing to some team that had a player throw up a shot in the final seconds to avoid a shot-clock violation and it went in. I'm old school and say take the violation, but again, K took it a step further and criticized the kid post game. It's fine to think it, but it's better when you keep your mouth shut for the sake of professionalism.
                        It was Dillon Brooks. Coach K lectured him post game and later lied about doing it....but it was caught on camera. Google both their names and it comes up.

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #297
                          Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                          Originally posted by jd@os
                          It was Dillon Brooks. Coach K lectured him post game and later lied about doing it....but it was caught on camera. Google both their names and it comes up.
                          Yeah, that's pretty egregious.

                          Plus, Duke players giving UNC the Isiah Thomas treatment.
                          Originally posted by Gibson88
                          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #298
                            2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                            Not gonna lie, I just read all this and when y’all started going in on all the coach k stuff I thought it was going to actually be something serious [emoji23]. That’s a lot of typing for all that little stuff lol. Not a fan by any means, growing up MJ and Vince fans always had me a UNC guy for college hoops (outside of home state), but never found reasons to hate coach K.. legend in my book for sure. That said glad UNC kicked that *** and hope they take the finals too.
                            Last edited by ojandpizza; 04-04-2022, 09:24 PM.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #299
                              Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                              I read all of it and was like “That’s it?” Lol

                              Every big time College Coach got some dirt on em and I imagine it’s very easy to find.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • jasontoddwhitt
                                MVP
                                • May 2003
                                • 8095

                                #300
                                Re: 2022 Running Commentary of Every Game of March Madness Thread

                                There was also the whole Corey Maggette situation, and Duke got off scot free because the NCAA found zero evidence that they knew.

                                Yet the NCAA punished Memphis for the whole Derrick Rose fiasco, despite the NCAA clearing him and Memphis not knowing.


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