Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

^^^^^^

Let us know how you enjoy Lives Create a Player mode...since that was a deal breaker for you in 2k..

Looking forward to your impressions..

He said "IF" live had a create a player mode. That's his thing that he likes to play. To each their own. Not sure why you cut him down for it and joke when you clearly missed his point and the "IF"...

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

Not need to apologize van, especially when I didn't say or even imply any of the things your apologizing for....I don't know how to respond honestly..

Your post is a microcosm of what I mean about these kind of threads though...lol

I wasn't apologizing. Lol! But you not responding to it or knowing how doesn't surprise me as I never understood your point in this whole thread in the 1st place?!

[The 24th Letter]

Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

I wasn't apologizing. Lol! But you not responding to it or knowing how doesn't surprise me as I never understood your point in this whole thread in the 1st place?!

My bad, I'm from the South..."I'm sorry" might mean something different here...but that's what I was referencing...lol

and yeah, I made a point to number my responses after your paragraphs regarding your post, then in response you went on about how your sorry that I don't respect aspects of the game and that you "get" all these things I hadn't made any mention of...so you'll have to excuse me if I got lost,..

My final point is this...I don't think anyone has said they don't understand why people are upset that options were taken out...I'm just saying that I can understand why some features may be missing in the first iteration of a next gen release ...don't think for a second I am not annoyed with the saving options...or that I don't want customization options myself..

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

My bad, I'm from the South..."I'm sorry" might mean something different here...but that's what I was referencing...lol

and yeah, I made a point to number my responses after your paragraphs regarding your post, then in response you went on about how your sorry that I don't respect aspects of the game and that you "get" all these things I hadn't made any mention of...so you'll have to excuse me if I got lost,..

My final point is this...I don't think anyone has said they don't understand why people are upset that options were taken out...I'm just saying that I can understand why some features may be missing in the first iteration of a next gen release ...don't think for a second I am not annoyed with the saving options...or that I don't want customization options myself..

I for one, expect a launch title to be missing some features....

as Mike Wang said when it was revealed 30 team control was taken away....it took a back seat (a back seat, not put in the garbage can) to put other things in place...he's all but saying it will return....we just have to take a step back from the cliff a moment and realize this is a foundation to build on...

and before anyone says the already old "no one asked for this"....sure people did...a lot of people wanted a different experience in Association....I know I did, I didn't want a port ...was this what I had in mind? Yes and no..but one thing I do realize is that the mode will continue to evolve....

now if 2k15 resembles this...then we can return to the cliff...but I don't see the need for all the doomsday posts now..

It's all good. When i said "I'm sorry you don't understand" i was being a smartass... Lol!

I guess I was referring to your post above and posts I have seen you post since current gen release. I lurk a lot and have seen your opinions. Only thing I think we differ on is I want it now, your more patient than I, and our expectations for next gen were different. All I want is to see the modes return and give the customization back to us so we can edit the game to the way we see fit. I never thought we would go backwards in game modes or these areas. I'm sure they will return I just want to make sure they do! Lol

[cardinalbird5]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

This thread is a joke.

Sure things like create a player and 30 team control being left out is kind of a bummer....but this game hasn't regressed. They basically changed 3 modes entirely and added to them, while they had to simplify some other modes.

Madden 06 from Xbox to Madden 06 on XBox 360 was way more regressed. You couldn't even hot route in that game...

For those skipping on the game....you are missing out. MyCareer or MyGM is worth the 60 dollars alone. It is like an entire different game within a game.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

This thread is a joke.

Sure things like create a player and 30 team control being left out is kind of a bummer....but this game hasn't regressed. They basically changed 3 modes entirely and added to them, while they had to simplify some other modes.

Madden 06 from Xbox to Madden 06 on XBox 360 was way more regressed. You couldn't even hot route in that game...

For those skipping on the game....you are missing out. MyCareer or MyGM is worth the 60 dollars alone. It is like an entire different game within a game.

Lol! Here we go again!

In your opinion it's worth 60.00. And it's kind of a bummer? Try it's a major bummer when you take those issues compounded with about 20 others. Lol! To each their own. But madden not having hot routes and 2k doesn't have other things similar that I won't go into again. I believe myself and others have stated the things missing. No difference... But we know the gameplay has improved and is great. It's also improved on other areas of the game but it doesn't mean it hadn't regressed in other key areas that are important to other people.

[cardinalbird5]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

Lol! Here we go again!

In your opinion it's worth 60.00. And it's kind of a bummer? Try it's a major bummer when you take those issues compounded with about 20 others. Lol! To each their own. But madden not having hot routes and 2k doesn't have other things similar that I won't go into again. I believe myself and others have stated the things missing. No difference... But we know the gameplay has improved and is great. It's also improved on other areas of the game but it doesn't mean it hadn't regressed in other key areas that are important to other people.

I am just saying the title of this thread is dumb. This is no where near being the biggest year to year regression of all time. If you like create a player and all of that stick with current gen.

[seanbarkley]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

I'd like to get a 100% sincere answer from those guys defending every aspect of the next gen game: Would you even consider buying it if the graphics were still the same we have in CG?

What I see here is 2 different kind of tastes and preferences: Those who mostly care about graphics and gameplay (and the lack of simulation -and thus customization- doesn’t bother them much), and those who mainly care about simulation in every aspect -not just gameplay- and simply can’t enjoy those beautiful graphics/gameplay knowing that a stupid trade is around the corner, or that they are playing with rosters with missing players. Just that, matter of tastes.

I am on the 2nd boat and sincerely, if I’m writing here right now is because I fell in love with a game that allowed me to do all that and have a complete NBA experience in EVERY aspect of the game, but from NBA 2K12 onwards I’ve seen a change of essence and priorities that I sincerely don’t feel. If the plan is to remove all the customization possibilities lil by lil and destroy every possibility of community sharing I quit.

Damned, when I see Red MC or Leftos’ Tool being ignored and even haunted I ask myself why?? If the community spends all that time building, supporting and praising those tools (there’re even people that don’t start their associations until Red MC is released), why can’t they think that maybe that’s important for us and that’s what we want?? Why do they have to do exactly the opposite and remove features and customization options year after year?? Is it bad for the game?? Is it bad for the community?? I don’t get it.

And finally, we ALL should let 2K know clearly that WE DON'T WANT VC, because if we don't this is gonna get worse! we don’t want stripped games in which if you want basic features (previously free) now you have to pay unfair prices. It’s not fair, we all pay 70€/$70 for this so we want a full game, and if they want to earn more money work on good DLCs, don’t do this, please.

EDIT: For me this would be the ideal scenario:

- Next gen 2k14 --> graphics/gameplay (with defensive settings in)
- NBA 2K12 Ultimate Base Roster --> the rest

[Melbournelad]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

This thread is a joke.

Sure things like create a player and 30 team control being left out is kind of a bummer....but this game hasn't regressed. They basically changed 3 modes entirely and added to them, while they had to simplify some other modes.

Madden 06 from Xbox to Madden 06 on XBox 360 was way more regressed. You couldn't even hot route in that game...

For those skipping on the game....you are missing out. MyCareer or MyGM is worth the 60 dollars alone. It is like an entire different game within a game.

For those of us who don't really play online, MyTeam or MyCareer much YEAH a bummer would be a massive understatement. And we would have been fine with no 30 team control for the most part IF if they had finally fixed the mess that was CPU logic. This would have meant we wouldn't have needed 30 teams control if the CPU was realistic. But it is still the same. This is why it's such a strange decision to take it away and pretty much ruin MyGM for the next 12 months.

[silverskier]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

I don't think that this thread is a joke. We are expressing our disagreements with some areas of the game. Some of this areas are gamekillers for a lot of players. We are telling VC and 2k why we aren't going to buy the game, for example. I think that this is good to them: we are giving them free feedback. So...

[silverskier]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

I'd like to get a 100% sincere answer from those guys defending every aspect of the next gen game: Would you even consider buying it if the graphics were still the same we have in CG?

What I see here is 2 different kind of tastes and preferences: Those who mostly care about graphics and gameplay (and the lack of simulation -and thus customization- doesn’t bother them much), and those who mainly care about simulation in every aspect -not just gameplay- and simply can’t enjoy those beautiful graphics/gameplay knowing that a stupid trade is around the corner, or that they are playing with rosters with missing players. Just that, matter of tastes.

I am on the 2nd boat and sincerely, if I’m writing here right now is because I fell in love with a game that allowed me to do all that and have a complete NBA experience in EVERY aspect of the game, but from NBA 2K12 onwards I’ve seen a change of essence and priorities that I sincerely don’t feel. If the plan is to remove all the customization possibilities lil by lil and destroy every possibility of community sharing I quit.

Damned, when I see Red MC or Leftos’ Tool being ignored and even haunted I ask myself why?? If the community spends all that time building, supporting and praising those tools (there’re even people that don’t start their associations until Red MC is released), why can’t they think that maybe that’s important for us and that’s what we want?? Why do they have to do exactly the opposite and remove features and customization options year after year?? Is it bad for the game?? Is it bad for the community?? I don’t get it.

And finally, we ALL should let 2K know clearly that WE DON'T WANT VC, because if we don't this is gonna get worse! we don’t want stripped games in which if you want basic features (previously free) now you have to pay unfair prices. It’s not fair, we all pay 70€/$70 for this so we want a full game, and if they want to earn more money work on good DLCs, don’t do this, please.

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VC and 2k, since 2k12, are targeting the casual players. Since they don't have nba live as a rival, this is what's been happening. Competition is always good.

[TeeDogg]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

Yo OP i'm happy for you and imma let you finish

but 2k made one of the best videos of all time.....



ALL TIME !!!!!!!!

LMAO......this thread is funny. The gripers have a legitimate want, but to imply the is the worst travesty "regression" ever and turn it into a 2K witch hunt is laughable. Not many veteran sports gamers would take that seriously. Lol. Enter Kanye

[Jasong7777]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

Basically everybody wanted a port with prettier graphics

No people wanted a complete game.

[MarkWilliam]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

- Revolutionary MyPlayer: The scripted story of a fictional player with a fictional rival who hates him. The paradise of SIM-heads. For 2K15 they should add, a dog, a house and a girlfriend (and if you want her boobies to be bigger you have to pay VC) and call it NBA Sims 2K15: Go fishing with Demarcus Cousins

This is the funniest thing I have read on an OS Post. Hats off to Sean Barkley. I APPLAUD you sir!!!

HAHAHAHA! Great.

[haloofduty]

Re: Is This The Biggest Year to Year Regression of All-Time?

Next year next year next year NEXT YEAR!!!! That's all I ever here about association fixes and now mygm with association issues. I know its the first 2k game of this generation BUT COME ON!!! Another year?

A lot of you always say maybe next year. Has anyone ever considered how long a year is to wait for fixes? Has any of you considered how many years we been waiting for fixes? Have you considered since we been waiting for years how we feel now that we cant fix it ourselves? Now we have to wait a year or years to fix it ourselves.

Why should we have to wait a year (in this case years) for the ai not to sign Deron Williams as Chris Paul backup? With 2ks track record for association issues how do we know they will even give us back control. We have to hope just like we been hoping for association fixes. Another year