Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

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  • RangersCruz
    MVP
    • May 2012
    • 3275

    #16
    Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

    Originally posted by Captain Obvious
    damn no one plays on hall a fame? its tough and the cpu scores by script but when i win its a damn good feeling believe u me.
    its not tough..i win on it but the stats are pretty unrealistic..

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    • Glenn33
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2455

      #17
      Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

      Originally posted by Brooke2011
      I find that on skill levels above pro , once your behind your behind for good.
      This is soooooo true.

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      • chinkiwinki
        Rookie
        • Oct 2008
        • 190

        #18
        Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

        All Star/ Sim
        - looking for realistic 11minute sliders w/ realistic statistics

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #19
          Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

          Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
          All difficulties have the same AI methodology. (ie, HOF is not smarter than Pro)

          What differentiates the difficulty levels are the boosts 2K gives the players. (ie. attribute boosts = players getting faster than they should be, stronger, etc etc)

          Below is a table I created to show the boosts and also how many slider clicks to negate said boosts for each difficulty level. (Left side is how many attribute points the CPU gets added, Right side is how many slider clicks to add/subtract to the CPU sliders to negate those boosts)

          All Star/Sim has the least amount of boosts so that tells me that is where they wanted the game to be played at.

          There is also one other thing 2K does when going up in difficulty levels and that is decrease the USERs windows for button presses (windows to press the button to get a block, steal, shot release, etc) while the CPU timings get faster (?).

          So Pro has large USER windows and HOF has small USER windows. It is debatable whether the CPU reaction times get faster the higher the difficulty (it makes logical sense that it would) but it has never been confirmed (officially) but I think we all can say that the CPU reaction times on SS/HOF are pretty much instant. (hence why we see the CPU get every loose ball, etc.... some peeps call this "knowing whats gonna happen, therefore 2K cheats"... this is not what happens tho, they don't know where, just that their reactions to what is happening is instant so it seems like they know whats gonna happen)

          Now add in the fact that they get boosted attributes (rebounding, hands, OAWR, DAWR, etc etc) and you can see why the CPU is tough on SS/HOF (instant reactions plus boosted attributes), once the boosts are negated the CPU is only super quick to react and no longer have the super human boosts to fly around the court.


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          <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="671"><tbody><tr style="height:18.75pt" height="25"><td style="height:18.75pt;width:46pt" height="25" width="61">
          </td> <td colspan="3" class="xl66" style="width:138pt" width="183">RATINGS BOOSTED
          </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
          </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
          </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
          </td> <td colspan="3" class="xl66" style="width:138pt" width="183">SLIDERS TO BALANCE</td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
          </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">ROOKIE
          </td> <td class="xl67"> PRO</td> <td class="xl67">AS</td> <td class="xl67">SS</td> <td class="xl67">HOF</td> <td class="xl65">
          </td> <td class="xl67">ROOKIE</td> <td class="xl67"> PRO</td> <td class="xl67">AS</td> <td class="xl67">SS</td> <td class="xl67">HOF</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-left:none">QUI</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">VRT</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STA</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">SPD</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DUR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">HUS</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">BH</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">20</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">HND</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-13</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DNK</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OBD</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STL</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">BLK</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">15</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">25</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OAWR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-10</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-16</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-40</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">15</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">25</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DAWR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+27</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-10</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-16</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OREB</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DREB</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
          </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td></tr></tbody></table>

          Found this post to be fantastic and honestly should be the start of a thread itself and stickied IMO

          Comment

          • Mos1ted
            MVP
            • Sep 2002
            • 2267

            #20
            Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

            Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
            All difficulties have the same AI methodology. (ie, HOF is not smarter than Pro)

            What differentiates the difficulty levels are the boosts 2K gives the players. (ie. attribute boosts = players getting faster than they should be, stronger, etc etc)

            Below is a table I created to show the boosts and also how many slider clicks to negate said boosts for each difficulty level. (Left side is how many attribute points the CPU gets added, Right side is how many slider clicks to add/subtract to the CPU sliders to negate those boosts)

            All Star/Sim has the least amount of boosts so that tells me that is where they wanted the game to be played at.

            There is also one other thing 2K does when going up in difficulty levels and that is decrease the USERs windows for button presses (windows to press the button to get a block, steal, shot release, etc) while the CPU timings get faster (?).

            So Pro has large USER windows and HOF has small USER windows. It is debatable whether the CPU reaction times get faster the higher the difficulty (it makes logical sense that it would) but it has never been confirmed (officially) but I think we all can say that the CPU reaction times on SS/HOF are pretty much instant. (hence why we see the CPU get every loose ball, etc.... some peeps call this "knowing whats gonna happen, therefore 2K cheats"... this is not what happens tho, they don't know where, just that their reactions to what is happening is instant so it seems like they know whats gonna happen)

            Now add in the fact that they get boosted attributes (rebounding, hands, OAWR, DAWR, etc etc) and you can see why the CPU is tough on SS/HOF (instant reactions plus boosted attributes), once the boosts are negated the CPU is only super quick to react and no longer have the super human boosts to fly around the court.


            ************************************************** ******************************

            <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="671"><tbody><tr style="height:18.75pt" height="25"><td style="height:18.75pt;width:46pt" height="25" width="61">
            </td> <td colspan="3" class="xl66" style="width:138pt" width="183">RATINGS BOOSTED
            </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
            </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
            </td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
            </td> <td colspan="3" class="xl66" style="width:138pt" width="183">SLIDERS TO BALANCE</td> <td style="width:46pt" width="61">
            </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">ROOKIE
            </td> <td class="xl67"> PRO</td> <td class="xl67">AS</td> <td class="xl67">SS</td> <td class="xl67">HOF</td> <td class="xl65">
            </td> <td class="xl67">ROOKIE</td> <td class="xl67"> PRO</td> <td class="xl67">AS</td> <td class="xl67">SS</td> <td class="xl67">HOF</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-left:none">QUI</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">VRT</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STA</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">SPD</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DUR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">HUS</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">BH</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">20</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">HND</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-13</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DNK</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">12</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OBD</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-5</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">STL</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">BLK</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">15</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">25</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OAWR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-10</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-16</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-40</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">15</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">25</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">30</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DAWR</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+27</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-10</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-16</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-20</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">3</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">6</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">OREB</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl68" style="height:15.0pt;border-top:none" height="20">-10</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-2</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">5</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">10</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">DREB</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+7</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">+1</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">
            </td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-3</td> <td class="xl70" style="border-top:none;border-left:none">-7</td></tr></tbody></table>
            Originally posted by 23
            Found this post to be fantastic and honestly should be the start of a thread itself and stickied IMO
            Agreed!

            I, too, never felt that 2K made the AI "smarter" when upping the difficulty setting; they just made the AI respond faster to situations (as well as the attribute boosts that the quoted poster mentioned). I guess you could argue that being able to respond faster is making it smarter, but it's not like the CPU uses a entirely different strategy when playing on those settings than on the lower difficulty settings.

            Personally, I prefer Superstar this year. The only slider adjustments I have are for defense and fouls, maxing out every defensive slider except the contact sliders and every foul slider. (And I always keep the sliders the same for the human and CPU regardless of the difficulty setting.) I find that my games are competitive and enjoyable with these settings.

            There's no right or wrong difficulty setting, hence the reason there are five in the game. It's all of a matter of the user's skill, his threshold for losing and frustration, and his idea of what a basketball game against the A.I. should play like. Some prefer winning easily; others prefer losing hard. Unlike in previous 2K's, I haven't had a lost yet on Superstar where I felt I lost because of CPU cheese. All of my losses against the CPU on Superstar could be put on me playing against a much better team or simply me "playing video games and not basketball."
            Last edited by Mos1ted; 12-20-2013, 05:38 AM.
            According to my old marketing professor, satisfaction is when product performance meets or exceeds consumer expectation.

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            • sword1986
              Banned
              • Nov 2011
              • 1041

              #21
              Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

              All Star/Simulation on a slower game speed, preferably 35 (helps reduce points in the paint, for me).

              Pro is too easy, Superstar the CPU is cheese, all contact layups are automatic.

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              • claustin
                Rookie
                • Dec 2013
                • 162

                #22
                Re: Which difficulty mode for Next Gen has the most realistic A.I.?

                See I find SS to be pretty good. When the game decides you're gonna get blown out, you get blown out, but in fair games I like the intensity. I just finished a neck and neck game with the heat on SS, won by 4, and it was awesome.

                To you guys talking about sliders: you're referring to modes other than MyCareer right? I couldn't find any sliders in MC. The only place I've seen them is in Features > Options (I haven't played MyGM). Those settings don't seem to affect MyCareer. You only have a Default/Sim toggle in MC settings, right?

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