Are you aware you can't play this game offline anymore?

[Crookid]

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Except for quick games.

Can't even play season or gm mode.

This wasn't made known to consumers.

You'd better hope your internet keeps working.

Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

Unreliable American internet speeds, capped data plans and the current debacles with some next-gen titles (which I believe are primarily caused by unreliable servers and cloud systems) should be evidence enough that online only gaming is a mistake.

Big big mistake.

[rymflaherty]

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Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

Well they lost me as a customer.
I can care less about playing other people online. I just want to play a Franchise without potential frustrations and limitations.
I'm a bit bummed I won;t have a basketball game to play now, but if 2K doesn't care about a player like me, I'll find a more suitable place to spend my time and money.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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I had planned on picking up this game after Christmas, but have since backed off that due to many of the negative things I've read on here......Especially as it relates to these "always online" claims....
The thing is there always seems to be 3 or 4 different comments or takes on the matter, which can be confusing.

So my question, as someone that does not own the game yet, is - Will it be possible for me to create a team with all former Uconn Huskies. Then use that team in MyGm and be able to play without worrying about being online, or losing a current game due to losing a connection, etc?

I can live without not having all the features in next-gen....But if I can't play the game in that basic manner in which I intend there's no way I'm picking it up.
As I said, reading all the threads makes it a bit confusing if that's possible or not, so any help is appreciated. Thanks.

I played around with this last night.

As long as your start the mode offline you can play off line (as others said). Because rosters can't be downloaded onto your HDD you have to use the **** default rosters.

Addressing your specific question, you wont be able to in my unless you can convince all these teams to trade them.

Season mode is much easier to accomplish as you can trade players between teams. I'm not sure about cap limitations.

To get around this bull**** online requirement I'm going to start an offline pacers season to use as an 'in case of emergency' team In case my net ****s itself again.

We need the ability to DL rosters to our hard drives. **** the cloud.

[sword1986]

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In my opinion, the default roster is better than the update. Who wants to use an updated roster with fake photos? It is 2013, are you serious 2K? Luigi Datome on the Pistons and Faverani on the Celtics are some Greek player. Hollis Thompson on the 76ers is Orien Harris, Dionte Christmas on the Suns is one of the Europe players. Ridiculous!

[ThundrGod]

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Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

This doesn't have to be an either/or proposition, they could have easily included a customizable offline myGM version without the VC and the ability to edit/save rosters locally in addition to their monetized version and then the customers could decide which they preferred. However, I think they already know which the customers would pick and it wouldn't make them any extra money so they chose to limit options and use the "carrot" you mentioned to lead people who already forked over $60 to pay for features that have always been free. This is my first NBA2k which i purchased on the basis of the great reviews it got from IGN/Gamestop (with no mention of microtransactions being heavily ingrained), and it will be my last unless 2k15 is free of VC. Although I may get it for PC and mod/hack the crap out of it to make it a decent game.

[keshunleon]

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Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

In what way?

2K can have it's own online roster for online play but not everybody have access to the internet all the time.

I play mainly offline and if this will continue to be a requirement I can start playing other games as I did when Madden became the only NFL game.

2K did a bad job with the rosters out of the box! How can players that were signed in June still not in the game in November?

I played offline association which is gone and we didn't have to be online to edit, save, and start it on current gen.

[Crookid]

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Unreliable American internet speeds, capped data plans and the current debacles with some next-gen titles (which I believe are primarily caused by unreliable servers and cloud systems) should be evidence enough that online only gaming is a mistake.

Big big mistake.

Online only gaming and requiring an internet connection are two different things. However, I do agree with you. Google needs to hurry the hell up with that global 1TB/s goal of theirs! :P

[icicle22]

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It stunk this weekend when I had a cable/internet outage and I couldn't even play my NBA season because I needed internet to even play an offline game. My Madden career is online too (but at least I made that choice) so I couldn't even play that. This needs to be an option for NBA......

So cable goes out.....no phone, no internet, no TV, no Netflix and now no gaming. Talk about all our eggs in one basket. We are becoming too dependent on internet connectivity for everything.

[El_Poopador]

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Yeah, crazy part is so many people hate MS for requiring and internet connection before changing their policy.

It is quite obvious this is where the future is headed.

theres a major difference between what ms was trying to do and how it is with 2k. ms was requiring a check-in every 24 hours. 2k requires that you be connected if you want to play. if you lose connection in the middle of a game then you get kicked out of the game.

i personally didnt mind the ms check-in requirement but i did think it should have been altered. maybe require the online check-in and if you cant then you need the disc in the tray.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I welcome the fact that new games are requiring internet connections. It is a more secure way to ensure players aren't cheating and toying with their save files. Most people might hate this and think they should be able to play their game how they want and while I agree they are right to an extent, games which this is possible simply DO NOT LAST. Look at games like Torchlight 2. A great game that was supposed to be "for the players' so players can literally edit anything they want and mod their files and characters. No one plays that game anymore.

Without a carrot on a stick or progressive improvement, games simply won't last. Players don't know what they want, cannot control themselves (myself included) and if given the opportunity will reward themselves instantly. This results in poor design and a corrupt community.

they can always have a separate mode for online and offline. but having the ability to mod and change things just add replay value. its like an rpg game. the first playthrough i always play normal earning my levels and things like that. but after that its fun sometimes to go through and have the powers you get late in the game at the beginning.

this same principle applies to sports games. sometimes i want to have my player start off as a superstar with amazing stats that will be clearly better than every other rookie. thats why i usually buy the pc version tbh.

all they would need to do is restrict those players with modded stats to offline modes. if they want to go online then they need another legit player.

[Crookid]

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In what way?

2K can have it's own online roster for online play but not everybody have access to the internet all the time.

I play mainly offline and if this will continue to be a requirement I can start playing other games as I did when Madden became the only NFL game.

2K did a bad job with the rosters out of the box! How can players that were signed in June still not in the game in November?

I played offline association which is gone and we didn't have to be online to edit, save, and start it on current gen.

It's more secure because it can verify the file wasn't altered to give an unfair advantage. Especially where players could edit their file and pimp out their player and destroy people at The Park who play legitimately.

I agree though. There should be a CHECK of the file, but allow you to play offline. But I can see where a constant connection adds security.

theres a major difference between what ms was trying to do and how it is with 2k. ms was requiring a check-in every 24 hours. 2k requires that you be connected if you want to play. if you lose connection in the middle of a game then you get kicked out of the game.

i personally didnt mind the ms check-in requirement but i did think it should have been altered. maybe require the online check-in and if you cant then you need the disc in the tray.



they can always have a separate mode for online and offline. but having the ability to mod and change things just add replay value. its like an rpg game. the first playthrough i always play normal earning my levels and things like that. but after that its fun sometimes to go through and have the powers you get late in the game at the beginning.

this same principle applies to sports games. sometimes i want to have my player start off as a superstar with amazing stats that will be clearly better than every other rookie. thats why i usually buy the pc version tbh.

all they would need to do is restrict those players with modded stats to offline modes. if they want to go online then they need another legit player.

Where I can empathize with you, I don't agree. I've been a hardcore gamer for quite some time and I've seen it happen way too much with other really good titles. Not everyone is as mindful as you. You seem to take an intelligent and self progressive approach to your gaming, but trust me when I tell you--a majority of gamers are NOT this way. They will destroy the community and give themselves any unfair advantage they possibly can and while this may be fine if they are playing by themselves; as soon as it starts to infringe on other player experiences, or has the slightest possibility to, I will always be against it.

This is just my opinion of course and I am not saying your opinion has any less merit. It's a good discussion to have since the future of gaming is headed in this direction. I agree with your other points though and the ones I don't are definitely valid arguments.

[El_Poopador]

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It's more secure because it can verify the file wasn't altered to give an unfair advantage. Especially where players could edit their file and pimp out their player and destroy people at The Park who play legitimately.

I agree though. There should be a CHECK of the file, but allow you to play offline. But I can see where a constant connection adds security.



Where I can empathize with you, I don't agree. I've been a hardcore gamer for quite some time and I've seen it happen way too much with other really good titles. Not everyone is as mindful as you. You seem to take an intelligent and self progressive approach to your gaming, but trust me when I tell you--a majority of gamers are NOT this way. They will destroy the community and give themselves any unfair advantage they possibly can and while this may be fine if they are playing by themselves; as soon as it starts to infringe on other player experiences, or has the slightest possibility to, I will always be against it.

This is just my opinion of course and I am not saying your opinion has any less merit. It's a good discussion to have since the future of gaming is headed in this direction. I agree with your other points though and the ones I don't are definitely valid arguments.

i definitely agree that it should be prevented from affecting other gamers. without a doubt. thats why i think any modifications should be kept to offline mode. even lock achievements and trophies if you use those mods (for those who care about those). i just feel that more options are always welcome.

but yea if they find ways to get around the checks and take their modded content online then it just ruins it for everyone they come across.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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It's more secure because it can verify the file wasn't altered to give an unfair advantage. Especially where players could edit their file and pimp out their player and destroy people at The Park who play legitimately.

I agree though. There should be a CHECK of the file, but allow you to play offline. But I can see where a constant connection adds security.



Where I can empathize with you, I don't agree. I've been a hardcore gamer for quite some time and I've seen it happen way too much with other really good titles. Not everyone is as mindful as you. You seem to take an intelligent and self progressive approach to your gaming, but trust me when I tell you--a majority of gamers are NOT this way. They will destroy the community and give themselves any unfair advantage they possibly can and while this may be fine if they are playing by themselves; as soon as it starts to infringe on other player experiences, or has the slightest possibility to, I will always be against it.

For competitive MP I can see your point. But in mygm and season modes I can't see how someone can 'cheat'. If we want to play as the bobcats and put Lebron, wade, melo and Howard on our team, that is our choice. It effects nobody but the user.

[Escobeats]

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What ever gets saved whilst online wether it's MyGM or MyCAREER gets linked with 2K14 servers which is ONLY then made available for connected 2K users.

However that doesn't stop you from creating an off-line one. It just wont be connected with the servers and you wont recieve VC from my understanding.

2K made it pretty confusing with the whole VC thingy especially if you're a new user to the series.

[STLRams]

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Basically online only, smart move 2K.....