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  • DJ_Solis
    MVP
    • Jan 2014
    • 2216

    #91
    Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

    I hear a lot of back story talk in real life too. And Idk what you guys are talking about when you say they don't talk about the game enough. The only problem for me is at the end of a close game they will continue to talk about random stories when they should just focus on the game.
    The crowd could use some work too. They just seems to make noise at random. A team will be getting blown out in the 4th then they get a bucket and the crowd goes wild. They're still down by 20 why would the crowd get so loud?


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    • El_Poopador
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 2624

      #92
      Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

      Originally posted by basehead617
      There have been lots of complaints that there's too much stat-talk and stat overlays currently.
      for me the issue is more of how its done than the fact that its there. irl when they talk about stats and bring up overlays and things there is a reason. in the game they bring up a random set of statistics just to bring them up. for example dwight howard can get fouled and while hes at the line theyll bring up the current assist leaders. it really has no place in that scenario.

      realistically what they need to have is awareness of good play. so if lin makes an amazing pass through traffic to howard that leads to the foul then they should talk about how good of a pass it was and show a few replays. then from there they can bring up assist leaders or how many apg lin has or whatever. there just needs to be more fluidity to the things they talk about.

      that is where they need to focus. instead of having a bunch of random back stories that we would hear every time we played with a certain team they need to concentrate on getting the commentators to recognize on-court play and whats happening in the broadcast. when someone gets fouled there are usually a few replays before the free throws. when someone makes a good play they usually talk about how they got into position for that good play or how the defense lapsed enough to let it happen. the focus is mostly on what is happening now vs what happened in the off-season.
      Last edited by El_Poopador; 02-20-2014, 08:29 AM.

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      • Junior Moe
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 3856

        #93
        Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

        when someone gets fouled there are usually a few replays before the free throws. when someone makes a good play they usually talk about how they got into position for that good play or how the defense lapsed enough to let it happen. the focus is mostly on what is happening now vs what happened in the off-season.
        I agree with this, more game specific detail are need. The commentary team should also incorporate a few generic lines, filled with player detail, into the commentary when a player is at the line or makes a play. Something along the lines of:

        Kevin: "So Steve, what do you think of the ____ year (player position) out of Florida?"

        Steve: "I really like this kid (player last name), Kevin. He was drafted ____ overall in the ____ draft. The (team) really like his skillset. He just needs to work on his (pick his lowest position specific rated attribute) some and be more consistent. I don't think he will be a star (the game knows his potential rating) or anything, but he can (pick highest rated attribute), and if he continues to work at it he can be an asset for the (team).

        Kevin: "He's an intriguing prospect. That's for sure. He's averaging _____ (rebounds, points, or assists) so far this season. And that is on par with his production last year."

        Just some sort of generic banter that can fill us in on the production of lesser known players and generated rookies in the Association/GM modes.

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        • Candymandagreat
          Rookie
          • Sep 2010
          • 194

          #94
          Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

          Im not a fan of doris burke dont like her on real games or on nba2k im also not a fan of clark kellog so what i would like to see is just harlan and kerr only. you could add david aldridge or craig sager, that would be cool. doris to me has to go.
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          • cowboy_kmoney
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1621

            #95
            Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

            Originally posted by Junior Moe
            I agree with this, more game specific detail are need. The commentary team should also incorporate a few generic lines, filled with player detail, into the commentary when a player is at the line or makes a play. Something along the lines of:

            Kevin: "So Steve, what do you think of the ____ year (player position) out of Florida?"

            Steve: "I really like this kid (player last name), Kevin. He was drafted ____ overall in the ____ draft. The (team) really like his skillset. He just needs to work on his (pick his lowest position specific rated attribute) some and be more consistent. I don't think he will be a star (the game knows his potential rating) or anything, but he can (pick highest rated attribute), and if he continues to work at it he can be an asset for the (team).

            Kevin: "He's an intriguing prospect. That's for sure. He's averaging _____ (rebounds, points, or assists) so far this season. And that is on par with his production last year."

            Just some sort of generic banter that can fill us in on the production of lesser known players and generated rookies in the Association/GM modes.
            This all the way and add more talk and stuff surrounding teams and players when they wins titles and other awards. Real time injuries.

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            • Junior Moe
              MVP
              • Jul 2009
              • 3856

              #96
              Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

              In addition, the commentary team should also discuss some of the potential moves other teams could make. There is a "rumor mill" section on the NBA homepage already that shows potential trades and the players reactions to them, incorporated some of that into the Association/MyGM commentary. It would give the league some life and cut down on some of that repetitive useless commentary and replace it with something more substantive and organic.

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              • spankdatazz22
                All Star
                • May 2003
                • 6219

                #97
                Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

                Originally posted by El_Poopador
                that is where they need to focus. instead of having a bunch of random back stories that we would hear every time we played with a certain team they need to concentrate on getting the commentators to recognize on-court play and whats happening in the broadcast.
                I'm playing a Wizards game now and within the first 2-3min of the game I've heard the broadcasters refer to the recent trade of Maynor, refer to the Wizards last game win versus Atlanta (and HOW they won it), I got a steal with John Wall and they referred to the steal, the layup, AND a player on New Orleans not getting back on defense. Then began to refer to the potential of [some player] as the subsequent play was being run. It's a videogame, so of course with the backstory lines being static some will become tiring after a while. But the in-game commentary itself is more dynamic and runs circles around any other sports game out there. I'm not saying the commentary shouldn't continue to improve, but trying to imply it focuses more on backstories and improperly placed comments on non-relevant statistics is completely false imo.
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                • cowboy_kmoney
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1621

                  #98
                  Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

                  Kant wait till Wedesday till i get my Xbox 1 with the game so i kan play this game.

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                  • El_Poopador
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2624

                    #99
                    Re: NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

                    Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                    I'm playing a Wizards game now and within the first 2-3min of the game I've heard the broadcasters refer to the recent trade of Maynor, refer to the Wizards last game win versus Atlanta (and HOW they won it), I got a steal with John Wall and they referred to the steal, the layup, AND a player on New Orleans not getting back on defense. Then began to refer to the potential of [some player] as the subsequent play was being run. It's a videogame, so of course with the backstory lines being static some will become tiring after a while. But the in-game commentary itself is more dynamic and runs circles around any other sports game out there. I'm not saying the commentary shouldn't continue to improve, but trying to imply it focuses more on backstories and improperly placed comments on non-relevant statistics is completely false imo.
                    the thing is that youre only 2-3 minutes into a single game. and even in that 2-3 minutes 75% of what you said they talked about was not about whats going on in the game.

                    the broadcasters refer to the recent trade of Maynor, refer to the Wizards last game win versus Atlanta (and HOW they won it), I got a steal with John Wall and they referred to the steal, the layup, AND a player on New Orleans not getting back on defense. Then began to refer to the potential of [some player] as the subsequent play was being run.
                    talk about a trade: not on-court
                    talk about previous game: not on-court
                    steal>layup>defender not getting back: on-court
                    potential of [some player]: not on-court

                    it sounds good in one-off games but play a season with one of those teams. suddenly that nice discussion about the potential of [some player] gets incredibly annoying because they mention it every game. that discussion about the previous game will last 30 seconds and then its gone. same goes for that trade. from there they can only go into the same well of information that they had last game...and the game before...and the game before...or they will randomly bring up a set of statistics like where the wizards rank in rebounds assists and steals.

                    sure they can mention individual pieces of a play: the steal the layup etc. but they dont recognize the scope of activity throughout the game. the intensity doesnt ramp up if someone hits five threes in a row. they dont understand if okc is playing miami and it turns into durant vs lebron. they dont understand when someone is on fire. they dont understand when a team is on a run or makes a comeback. they dont understand when something out of the ordinary happens with the exception of an alley oop or buzzer beater. those are the types of things im looking for in next gen. they need to understand and comment on the game at hand.

                    im ok with them bringing up stats if they can do it dynamically and it flows with the action. lets say after that steal and layup they bring up the steals leaders. from there they can say something like "well john wall is Xth in the league in steals and now we see why". it should sound organic when compared to whats happening on the court.

                    and i still say that mlb the show has by far the best play by play commentary of any game ever. their color commentary is lacking but the play by play is years ahead of nba 2k or any other sports game.
                    Last edited by El_Poopador; 02-25-2014, 04:29 PM.

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