Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

[TheJokester117]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

So you want to prevent the cpu from making the moves they choose, and make all the decisions for them, yet you don't consider that "crippling"?

Interesting

What is more crippling:
CP3 signs with Cleveland and backs up Kyrie, LeBron signs with Orlando, Melo signs with Utah, Kobe signs with Miami, Dirk signs with Miami, 1st round lottery picks are traded for players who are nothing more than serviceable 6th men/role players.

Or

I resign Kobe with LA and he retires there. I resign Dirk with Dallas and he retires there. Melo resigns with the Knicks, the Big 3 resign with Miami. Draft picks are kept with the respective teams so teams like the Bucks, 76ers, Magic, etc. get better instead of being stuck in perpetual basketball hell. 88 rated players don't backup 95 rated players. I could literally go on for days. 3 years in the MyGM, all teams are at least contending for a playoff spot and getting better. Oh, and did I forget to mention that just because I have 30 team control doesn't mean I win the title every year. CPU teams will win it more often than not.

Does that sound like I cripple teams to you? No, it doesn't. Look man, I get it. You don't like realism. You like the wacky CPU logic that's completely and utterly broken. That's cool, I used to not care either. But a lot of people on this forum do, so sitting here and bashing others because of how they play is just silly. I might call other people's stuff unrealistic, but I acknowledge that if it's fun for them, keep playing that way. I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with people who don't respect how others play.

How often in league history have vetos happen?

Also, ur not making any sense and are running in circles, when you have control of everyone, you are manufacturing everything, stop trying to hide behind it, it's unfair to the CPU and cheating, and against the spirit of the game mode

The spirit of the game is to play how you wish and enjoy it. The spirit of the game is not to sit by and watch the CPU teams destroy each other so that you have a situation like this year's real life where half the league has a losing record but is still in the playoffs.

But answer this: how is making the CPU teams become much more competitive and challenging, more than they would ever have the possibility to become, cheating?

[RED BULL]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

What is more crippling:
CP3 signs with Cleveland and backs up Kyrie, LeBron signs with Orlando, Melo signs with Utah, Kobe signs with Miami, Dirk signs with Miami, 1st round lottery picks are traded for players who are nothing more than serviceable 6th men/role players.

Or

I resign Kobe with LA and he retires there. I resign Dirk with Dallas and he retires there. Melo resigns with the Knicks, the Big 3 resign with Miami. Draft picks are kept with the respective teams so teams like the Bucks, 76ers, Magic, etc. get better instead of being stuck in perpetual basketball hell. 88 rated players don't backup 95 rated players. I could literally go on for days. 3 years in the MyGM, all teams are at least contending for a playoff spot and getting better. Oh, and did I forget to mention that just because I have 30 team control doesn't mean I win the title every year. CPU teams will win it more often than not.

Does that sound like I cripple teams to you? No, it doesn't. Look man, I get it. You don't like realism. You like the wacky CPU logic that's completely and utterly broken. That's cool, I used to not care either. But a lot of people on this forum do, so sitting here and bashing others because of how they play is just silly. I might call other people's stuff unrealistic, but I acknowledge that if it's fun for them, keep playing that way. I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with people who don't respect how others play.



The spirit of the game is to play how you wish and enjoy it. The spirit of the game is not to sit by and watch the CPU teams destroy each other so that you have a situation like this year's real life where half the league has a losing record but is still in the playoffs.

But answer this: how is making the CPU teams become much more competitive and challenging, more than they would ever have the possibility to become, cheating?

The one that doesn't allow the CPU team to have a choice in their actions and do what they please.


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[TheJokester117]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

The one that doesn't allow the CPU team to have a choice in their actions and do what they please.


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But answer this: how is making the CPU teams become much more competitive and challenging, more than they would ever have the possibility to become, cheating?

You didn't answer this question. I'm genuinely interested in how you consider making teams more competitive and challenging than they normally could become is considered cheating, so try to give a thoughtful response instead of continuing to troll.

[El_Poopador]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

How often in league history have vetos happen?

Also, ur not making any sense and are running in circles, when you have control of everyone, you are manufacturing everything, stop trying to hide behind it, it's unfair to the CPU and cheating, and against the spirit of the game mode

by this logic they should also take out sliders. and you absolutely shouldnt be able to edit the rosters before you begin your season/mygm. you probably shouldnt be able to turn injuries off either. and difficulty options? get rid of them. its against the spirit of the game.

see how ridiculous that sounds? honestly since when are options a bad thing? no one is saying that every player has to take control of all 30 teams. but for those that want to it should be an option.

[Slooty2k]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

What is more crippling:
CP3 signs with Cleveland and backs up Kyrie, LeBron signs with Orlando, Melo signs with Utah, Kobe signs with Miami, Dirk signs with Miami, 1st round lottery picks are traded for players who are nothing more than serviceable 6th men/role players.

Or

I resign Kobe with LA and he retires there. I resign Dirk with Dallas and he retires there. Melo resigns with the Knicks, the Big 3 resign with Miami. Draft picks are kept with the respective teams so teams like the Bucks, 76ers, Magic, etc. get better instead of being stuck in perpetual basketball hell. 88 rated players don't backup 95 rated players. I could literally go on for days. 3 years in the MyGM, all teams are at least contending for a playoff spot and getting better. Oh, and did I forget to mention that just because I have 30 team control doesn't mean I win the title every year. CPU teams will win it more often than not.

Does that sound like I cripple teams to you? No, it doesn't. Look man, I get it. You don't like realism. You like the wacky CPU logic that's completely and utterly broken. That's cool, I used to not care either. But a lot of people on this forum do, so sitting here and bashing others because of how they play is just silly. I might call other people's stuff unrealistic, but I acknowledge that if it's fun for them, keep playing that way. I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with people who don't respect how others play.



The spirit of the game is to play how you wish and enjoy it. The spirit of the game is not to sit by and watch the CPU teams destroy each other so that you have a situation like this year's real life where half the league has a losing record but is still in the playoffs.

But answer this: how is making the CPU teams become much more competitive and challenging, more than they would ever have the possibility to become, cheating?

I agree. You want a league with parity thats more competitive and features well constructed teams, not ridiculous teams with 3 90 rated PGs with no real bigs all fighting for minutes. The NBA is all about trying to create parity and I dont see how attempting to make CPU teams better and more competitive is cheating.

[haloofduty]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

Theres no way to stop Lebron from going to the 76ers or Carmelo from going to the Suns. The only option we had before was manual 30 team control but we dont have that anymore. I guess thats one of the reasons people are so grumpy.

We did have another option. Editing contracts is in the game but don't work. If you want Lebron to stay you should be able to edit his contract before starting mygm.

I found out the hard way. I was pissed they took out 30 team control and editing during mygm. I seen on the roster editor screen that you can still edit contracts. I said to myself well at least I can keep certain players with their team. I proceeded to edit Lebron, Kobe, Aldridge, Lillard ect. contracts to longer deals and no trade clauses.

I started mygm kinda relieved thinking that maybe I can stop stupid trades and free agent signings by editing contracts. I simmed the first season THEN BAM 2k kicked me in the nuts. Lebron and Kobe left. I simmed some more and Aldridge left. Editing contracts does not transfer over to mygm. Being relieved turned into me wanting to destroy my 2k disc.

Still wondering why let us edit contracts if they don't work in mygm. Is it a tease saying we took away all your options but we will still let you edit contracts then FOOLED YOU you cant do that either.

[DJ_Solis]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

lol why is their so many grumpy people in this thread? The man asked a question, don't go crazy on him. Same people with smart comments, are complaining in other threads about something they want added to a game

Probably because of the condescending tone. I just don't get why he has to call people idiotic and cheaters for simply wanting the return of a feature. It's a single player mode, why should he care about what others do.


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[TheJokester117]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

The best you can do to stop people like LeBron, Kobe, Melo, etc from leaving their respective teams in MyGM is to give them a team option. That edit does seem to carry over.

[haloofduty]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

The best you can do to stop people like LeBron, Kobe, Melo, etc from leaving their respective teams in MyGM is to give them a team option. That edit does seem to carry over.

Yea I tried that. Unfortunately they still leave after the option is over. Its big for me cause I basically sim past the first 2 years. I like rebuilding. Since I sim as soon as I start I see all the big free agents leaving. I try to rebuild to take down the powerhouses. That's why I like keeping certain free agents on their teams so I can try to take them down.

[jeremym480]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

No one is talking about manufacturing decisions and controlling everything. Its about damage control. If a team trades a young prospect for an aging role player or tries to acquire multiple players at a position of strength, you should have the ability to essentially veto or undo such moves via 30 team control. I dont see how thats cheating when trade vetos happen in real life ie the CP3 trade.

This is pretty much were I'm at as well.

I don't want complete control, however just give me the option to veto or reverse something if I don't like it. I'm also hoping that they add in manual injuries sometime in the future, as well. Basically I just want the to sort of mirror how MLB The Show lets you take control of other teams when you want to and let's you give control back to the CPU at any time also.

As far as it being cheating, well yeah obviously people could if they wanted too, however the majority of people I've seen who do use 30-team control don't do it to build super teams and cheese the CPU. They do it to keep things somewhat "realistic" or at least logical. Furthermore, even in MyGm's current state someone can pretty much exploit the CPU's trade logic and build super teams if they wanted to that way too. Just take a look at about half of the trades in the MyGm thread. Note: Just because 2k crappy trade logic lets you make a trade doesn't mean that it's fair. So honestly, I don't see how assisting the CPU with decisions and helping the build a better team is cheating, but to each their own.

[TheJokester117]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

Note: Just because 2k crappy trade logic lets you make a trade doesn't mean that it's fair.

This is definitely true. I find trades through the trade finder all the time that are completely unrealistic and unfair. I avoid them, but still, it's a pretty blatant example of how rampant the CPU trade logic problem is.

[Kaze]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

does anyone else find that FAs in myGM sign for way less than they would in real life?

Kevin Seraphin signed for 9 MM for 3 years
Kyle Lowry signed for 20 MM for 3 years

etc etc

[KingTocco]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

does anyone else find that FAs in myGM sign for way less than they would in real life?

Kevin Seraphin signed for 9 MM for 3 years
Kyle Lowry signed for 20 MM for 3 years

etc etc

Those are poor examples, I know what you are talking about but Seraphin should not be getting a lot of money. Lowry is a little low though

[WhoDatMatt]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

I'm pretty sure the game doesn't auto-save free agent signings until after the end of the signing period, so if you're determined enough and have enough time on your hands you can repeatedly restart your console until you get the players to sign where you want. You have to be careful though, because it auto-saves right after the last day, so if LeBron is still unsigned going into the final day and you sim ahead, you can't undo it. So if you see the Heat capped out going into the last couple of days, you'll know to restart the period. But at least with the LeBron and the Heat, I've noticed that if he's going to stay, he re-signs fairly early, otherwise they throw a bunch of money at guys like Granger and Deng. I don't think I've ever seen Melo re-sign with the Knicks, but that makes perfect sense to me. And Kobe seems to always re-sign with the Lakers for about half of what he really signed for when I sim (2K is smarter than the Lakers!!!).

Or you can just say 'screw it' and run with the narrative that LeBron left South Beach for Utah because he decided he's so good that he wants to go win a 'ship with a cast of nobodies. And then Melo went to Miami to try (and fail) to prove that he could've won a bunch of rings with Wade and Bosh, too. And just pretend in your head that Dan Gilbert is an idiot owner and that's why he signed CP3 to back up Kyrie. (Did I say pretend? oops.)

If you pick the first option, be prepared to shake your head at yourself in the future for how much time you wasted for such a minor detail in a video game. No regrets, though...

[dgold1]

Re: Big free agents signing with teams they wouldn't

Any ideas on keeping lebron from signing with magic or melo signing with the jazz if your not the gm of there teams?

It's a little time consuming, but what I did before playing the first game of MYGM to prevent Melo/Lebron/Kobe from leaving their current team & signing with teams they would never sign with is trade players with huge contracts to teams like Utah or any other "low" profile team with cap space. Ex. Try to move A. Stoudemire to Utah or A. Bargnani to the Magic. At the end of the season they won't have enough cap space to sign Melo/Lebron/Kobe, they usually resign with their current team. I hate the fact that 2k do not allow edited contracts to transfer over to MyGM.