Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

[RED BULL]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

No need for create a player?

How are accurate rosters supposed to be created if CAP isn't in the game?

I hope that wasn't a serious question

[KingTocco]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

I hope that wasn't a serious question

You're such a troll...get out of here

[VDusen04]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

What is this drm people keep talking about? You can play this game offline.

Also, people keep saying the same foolish crap about association but this is not association mode. It's mygm, No gm can control and dictate moves for other teams, so I just don't understand how people attack this mode for it. It's not association mode, and shouldn't be looked at as it. It's a new mode, it may be similar to association but it's a different beast.

GM's also do not actually play the games in real life, yet this is what we see in MyGM. When folks make complaints about Association in some form or another, I believe it may be beneficial if instead of being confused as to why they're discussing Association when that mode doesn't exist, one interprets their complaints as a yearning for the return of a franchise mode that allows more control and options.

They should add back a mode just because people want to control everything teams that don't belong to them do?

I believe it would certainly be wise for 2K to consider. There seems to be a community need (or request) for such abilities and from 2K's perspective (community groundswell aside) it'd seem to make sense to program gamer freedoms that allow them to dictate the experience for which they desire.

How is it a bad game?

I believe it depends upon one's opinion. Many fans of basketball games have come to enjoy them for their on-court play in addition to their modes, customization, and functionality. With 2K14 removing create-a-player, create-a-team, local roster saves, and Association, while implementing a linear fantasy story for MyCareer and bolstering a fake golden coin system (alongside an oftentimes unstable internet connection), I think it's at least a small bit understandable as to why someone may find this game disappointing or, at worst, bad.

Create a player is not needed, nor is association.

I really don't get why people seem to like redundancy, lol. It's either that or they don't understand what my player and my gm are

I believe "needs" in regard to simulation basketball video games is pretty open to interpretation. Some gamers might only need stick figures, a ball, and a rectangular court. Others might be satisfied with real jerseys, authentic courts, and generic faces - that's it - as long as the gameplay was nice.

For many though, aspects such as create-a-player, create-a-team, Association, dunk packages, accurate accessories, and all of those great little (or big) extras have become a large part of the draw to a great series like NBA 2K. Considering a large part of enjoyment of the 2K series came from having accurate current rosters (and incredible classic rosters largely made up of create-a-players), I'd say Create-a-Player is a very big "want". In fact, when considering a purchase of 2K's product, it may as well be a need.

[RED BULL]

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GM's also do not actually play the games in real life, yet this is what we see in MyGM. When folks make complaints about Association in some form or another, I believe it may be beneficial if instead of being confused as to why they're discussing Association when that mode doesn't exist, one interprets their complaints as a yearning for the return of a franchise mode that allows more control and options.

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post , until you find me, where on the basketball court do see your general manager. I have never seen mygm dribble a basketball for me team, so unless you can prove to me that in mygm your gm actually plays, then you need to rework your rebuttal.

[KingTocco]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post , until you find me, where on the basketball court do see your general manager. I have never seen mygm dribble a basketball for me team, so unless you can prove to me that in mygm your gm actually plays, then you need to rework your rebuttal.

Dude are you serious? Lol he means playing the games and controlling the team each game...GM's don't do that. They watch all the games, usually from a box. That doesn't happen in MyGM so your whole "this is MyGM not Association, you can't control every team blah blah blah" is also flawed

But I'm going to take a wild guess and say you won't understand this either...

[RED BULL]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

Dude are you serious? Lol he means playing the games and controlling the team each game...GM's don't do that. They watch all the games, usually from a box. That doesn't happen in MyGM so your whole "this is MyGM not Association, you can't control every team blah blah blah" is also flawed

But I'm going to take a wild guess and say you won't understand this either...

Show me where in mygm that your gm is controlling the players.

What next, you are going to say that your gm changes the menus in mygm mode ? Lol

[VDusen04]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post , until you find me, where on the basketball court do see your general manager. I have never seen mygm dribble a basketball for me team, so unless you can prove to me that in mygm your gm actually plays, then you need to rework your rebuttal.

Yeah, kobebryant824 pretty much covered it above. On one hand, it seems to be suggested that GM's wouldn't be able to control other teams in real life, so gamers shouldn't have such an ability in-game. My retort stated that GM's also do not control players on-court. So by that logic, shouldn't gamers also not be able to play games in MyGM, since it's something team GM's do not do?

Show me where in mygm that your gm is controlling the players.

What next, you are going to say that your gm changes the menus in mygm mode ? Lol

I believe the question then would be, where in MyGM would it be your GM that would be completing real life trades of other teams? If a gamer wanted Luol Deng to be traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers, just like real life, why would it have to be your GM making that deal? Couldn't we just assume it's the gamer replicating real life? I feel it'd be similar to you assuming it's not actually your GM controlling the players.

[RED BULL]

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Yeah, kobebryant824 pretty much covered it above. On one hand, it seems to be suggested that GM's wouldn't be able to control other teams in real life, so gamers shouldn't have such an ability in-game. My retort stated that GM's also do not control players on-court. So by that logic, shouldn't gamers also not be able to play games in MyGM, since it's something team GM's do not do?

You are a gamer. You control your gm and your players. Your gm doesn't play games, the players do, which are controlled by the gamers.

[VDusen04]

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You are a gamer. You control your gm and your players. Your gm doesn't play games, the players do, which are controlled by the gamers.

I completely agree. In a similar vein, I believe gamers just wish to be able to control their own experience as gamers, not necessarily as a GM, per se. When they're GM'ing their own team, they're the GM. Then when they play games, they magically shift to the role of players. Then if they wish to regulate other team's transactions, they shift to the role of other GM's. And if they want to run a 28 game season, they'd shift to the role of commissioner for a moment, I suppose.

[KingTocco]

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I completely agree. In a similar vein, I believe gamers just wish to be able to control their own experience as gamers, not necessarily as a GM, per se. When they're GM'ing their own team, they're the GM. Then when they play games, they magically shift to the role of players. Then if they wish to regulate other team's transactions, they shift to the role of other GM's. And if they want to run a 28 game season, they'd shift to the role of commissioner for a moment, I suppose.

Exactly...perfectly said

[RED BULL]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

I completely agree. In a similar vein, I believe gamers just wish to be able to control their own experience as gamers, not necessarily as a GM, per se. When they're GM'ing their own team, they're the GM. Then when they play games, they magically shift to the role of players. Then if they wish to regulate other team's transactions, they shift to the role of other GM's. And if they want to run a 28 game season, they'd shift to the role of commissioner for a moment, I suppose.

You were tasked to control one team, that is what this mode is about. Once you give someone your little cheating power, the entire mode breaks and no longer makes sense.

You can easily do your little nonsense in quick game mode, but it doesn't make sense in mygm.

[RumbleCard]

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Create a player is not needed, nor is association.

I really don't get why people seem to like redundancy, lol. It's either that or they don't understand what my player and my gm are

When are you going to learn that you stand almost completely alone in not just your assessment of the game but you ideas about not needing CAP and comprehensive Association mode.

You may love this game like a child but 2K has alienated a very large percentage of their core customer base. To pretend that doesn't exist is nothing more than denial.

[JazzMan]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

Good game that's handicapped by DRM, no saving to the hard drive, and a lack of option customization in MyGM.

[Rubio809]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

He really is a "Skeeter"...lol

[VDusen04]

Re: Your final review on next-gen 2K14?

You were tasked to control one team, that is what this mode is about. Once you give someone your little cheating power, the entire mode breaks and no longer makes sense.

You can easily do your little nonsense in quick game mode, but it doesn't make sense in mygm.

I think we're getting to the core of why there is a clamoring for the return of Association mode. Many folks wish to have the freedom to fully control their franchise experience. I think what a lot of people are saying is they wish not to be pigeonholed into an experience where golden coins reign and crazy trades, free agent signings, and league customization are completely out of their control.

Again, I feel it'd be wise for 2K to decide whether the urge to force everyone into a single, streamlined experience matches that of providing options, control, freedom, and customization, perhaps allowing for a wider base of enjoyment amongst gamers. That way, those who wish to have a franchise mode where they only control the GM may be possible, but so too would any other level of control.