Does 2K Even Care About Making the Game Realistic Anymore?

[TheRealHST]

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What can 2k do about players being dooshes?

Set the online difficulty to HOF and leave it there.

[ultralow36]

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when is the last time yall have watch real nba.....its drive, chuck up a 3 all game ......pick and lob.....melo iso.....the spurs is all we have left and young cats call it boring.......calling plays is dead....

[Optik]

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when is the last time yall have watch real nba.....its drive, chuck up a 3 all game ......pick and lob.....melo iso.....the spurs is all we have left and young cats call it boring.......calling plays is dead....

I could ask you the same thing.

[HowDareI]

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when is the last time yall have watch real nba.....its drive, chuck up a 3 all game ......pick and lob.....melo iso.....the spurs is all we have left and young cats call it boring.......calling plays is dead....

A lot of plays look like it's that easy, but you forget it's the NBA.

Teams have to run plays to get other players open so that they can shoot a 3, or have a clear lane to cut backdoor and catch a lob...

I have no problem if people do stuff like that, if they run the right play. If someone's jacking a 3 with Steph Curry in MCW's mouth over and over hitting it? That's a problem, MCW is way too tall to get shot over. If people are lobbing MJ over and over with Robert Parish, Andre Drummond, and Josh Smith defending it? That's a problem...I can't even hit the ball away half the time.

[El_Poopador]

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Lol you can't call yourself a sim player if you don't run plays, I don't think people understand that. I know a lot of times I have to abandon playing like that just to hit a few cheesy three's just get back into a game while the other guys turbo'ing into the paint with Jordan constantly.

I just won a close game like that and I don't understand why players don't lose a lot more stamina when they hit contact layups or dunks? I know from real-life experience that you get a lot more tired doing that then just shooting 3's...

i disagree. the playcalling and play execution by the cpu teammates is far from realistic. running plays is often pointless because they take too long to develop they break down too easily and they are very predictable. if they could make the plays develop faster and smoother it would be a much better system. but i find myself not running plays often because they really just dont work as intended.

[fufaso]

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i disagree. the playcalling and play execution by the cpu teammates is far from realistic. running plays is often pointless because they take too long to develop they break down too easily and they are very predictable. if they could make the plays develop faster and smoother it would be a much better system. but i find myself not running plays often because they really just dont work as intended.

I wouldn't say it's far from realistic, but you are right in that some of them take FAR too long to develop. I'd disagree on the predictability somewhat though as many of the plays have at least 2 options built in, given you multiple ways to attack the defense with the same play.

Quicker, smoother play development is, without a doubt, something that needs to be addressed, but that is not at all the reason actual NBA ball isn't being played online.

Also, calling for a pick, having your teammate come up to set the pick, but then just take off before doing so is pretty annoying too.

[alabamarob]

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I could ask you the same thing.

Haha. The resident grumpy brother is back. The days of him and Jwill bringing discipline to the boards were classics.


You on next gen yet optik?

[JasonWilliams55]

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Haha. The resident grumpy brother is back. The days of him and Jwill bringing discipline to the boards were classics.


You on next gen yet optik?

Transition year...

[sword1986]

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When playing against the ai, it can be, but you are right and the sliders really help re-create a pretty accurate real life ball game.

When playing against other ppl, it should be easy to play realistic ball, unfortunately, it's not nearly as common place as one would think given the game we are discussing is and nba game...

That is done on purpose so everybody can play. What 2K needs to do is bring back the lobbies so we can play head to head with Sim ballers, opposed to arcade style. Casual fans outweigh Sim fans. For right now, we have to use what we have and play the AI where we can get real basketball in. Sliders are a blessing!

[thedream2k13]

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IMO 2k doesn't care anymore. They have a monopoly on the bball game genre so no reason to cater to any specific group. The game is all about highlight plays and 3pt shooting "pick up and play" action. They don't update players to realistic levels anymore , they give them offense animations that basically make paint defense worthless , they add magnet defense that's really a defensive foul IRL , they make 3pt shooting easier than ft shooting and to top it off they release VC online only nextgen game thats truly a slap in the face to all their supporters who have been here since the beginning. I got rid of my game after owning it for 2 weeks due to how arcadish the gameplay has become and how bad the game was programmed . after supporting 2k for the last 10 I can no longer do it. They are obviously trying to bring in a new audience for $ which in turn has alienated the long time fans.

You can't serve 2 masters, pick a side and let us know BEFORE you release 2k15. Pick up and play isn't for me so I would rather save my 60 for another game .

[TheRealHST]

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when is the last time yall have watch real nba.....its drive, chuck up a 3 all game ......pick and lob.....melo iso.....the spurs is all we have left and young cats call it boring.......calling plays is dead....

San Antonio Spurs

[secondcity t]

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Realistic? Haha.

Lets be real here. 2K is where they are because Live is out of business and all those cheese heads that played Live had to come to 2K cause there was nothing else out there. IMO, 2K has been on a downwards trend since 2K11.

Or maybe it's because more people could afford a PS3/Xbox 360 compared to 2K7-2K11. The game has always had some sort of issue whether it was the hopstep spin throwing big men out of the way, auto post dunks or hitting hook shot 3s. Can't forget the force dunking where people would turbo until they got a dunk animation. The only difference between then and now is 2K has 40-80k on a given day and compared to 2K7-2K10, I can only remember 8000 on a good day.

2K7-2K11 was a great improvement. Now they've just become stagnant. You see where Madden is and how they cater to the simheads right? 2K can do whatever they wanna do because at the end of the day, we're still going to buy the game. And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


The problem is people come on here to play 2K and not basketball. The hoopers are out there. The simheads are out there. I for one, am one of them. And if you want another hooper to hoop with, and a whole community of people that play real basketball and sports for that matter, my gt is d11king.

Arguably, 2K8 was my favorite but I played College Hoops more than NBA that year. They had a good starting point with that game yet 2K9 was extremely arcade if I recall. Also, I don't recall plays breaking like they do now which brings me to....

A lot of plays look like it's that easy, but you forget it's the NBA.

Teams have to run plays to get other players open so that they can shoot a 3, or have a clear lane to cut backdoor and catch a lob...

I have no problem if people do stuff like that, if they run the right play. If someone's jacking a 3 with Steph Curry in MCW's mouth over and over hitting it? That's a problem, MCW is way too tall to get shot over. If people are lobbing MJ over and over with Robert Parish, Andre Drummond, and Josh Smith defending it? That's a problem...I can't even hit the ball away half the time.

Over the last couple of years, I've found myself running plays less and less because of how frequent plays break. Especially against those who play tight on everyone and run cheese zone. I played a guy who would start his sets in 1-3-1 then switch to man or trap so the AI would be in every passing lane despite being open most of the time. If you run auto plays, the offensive play is constantly changing which means the defense is being changed. It's a shame that you have to exploit quick plays or change offensive sets to beat it.

[DJ_Solis]

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i disagree. the playcalling and play execution by the cpu teammates is far from realistic. running plays is often pointless because they take too long to develop they break down too easily and they are very predictable. if they could make the plays develop faster and smoother it would be a much better system. but i find myself not running plays often because they really just dont work as intended.

It's also pretty hard to let plays run when a guy is trying to double team you the entire game lol


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[jaateloauto]

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i disagree. the playcalling and play execution by the cpu teammates is far from realistic. running plays is often pointless because they take too long to develop they break down too easily and they are very predictable. if they could make the plays develop faster and smoother it would be a much better system. but i find myself not running plays often because they really just dont work as intended.

I would say you can't say you want to play sim unless you would like there to be plays called. We all know turbo and paint ball trumps everything in this game so if your main goal is to win calling plays is very often not remotely worth it. They take time to develop and you're left with little time if they don't work.

Instead if you want to win when you turbo around enough you're likely to get a dunk, layup or an open shot from a fill just by holding that button down and you get a lot more chances to score during a possession that way. I sadly don't call that many plays any more when playing online.

[El_Poopador]

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im not even talking about online. my issues are a combination of the slow-developing plays and subsequent breaking of said plays along with the poor pick and roll system and the psychic cpu defense.

for example if i call for a screen i should be able to react to what the defense does. but before the screen is even set i need to decide whether the screener is going to slip roll or pop. that decision shouldnt be made until after the screen is set and i see how the defense decides to defend it.

in the same scenario if i decided to have him roll its very difficult to get an open passing lane. even if the defender hedges the screen he immediately snaps back into place to intercept a pass at lightning speed. or if they dont hedge and i am able to use the screen to get around my defender he turns into usain bolt and is back on me before i get two steps away.

the cpu defense reads button presses instead of player movements and because of that their reaction is way too fast. running plays and trying to play actual realistic bball will not be fun until they can fix that.