Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

[Vni]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

So i guess the solution would be t bring back the old isomotion system, mixed with the freestyle ability of the right stick dribbling and have iso gathers, setups, and crossovers that can be cancelled out at every point during the animations....without it looking like NBA Live...lol

If 2k can get the isomotion to work like this, then we are in business!!!


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We're not that far away from that...

[Mrleaderboards]

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Btw have you ever seen a player in real life do that hesitation behind the back move like in 2K ? I never have.

Most behind the backs look completely unrealistc. Another thing that looked way better in 2K11.

ummm sure have...the best ball handler in the league does it quite often actually.

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[Vni]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

Another nice move but it's still not what I'am talking about : )

I'll try to find it somewhere when I'am home.

[Mrleaderboards]

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i know live had him featured as their cover guy last year and also used him in Mo-Cap sessions, but i'm pretty sure bringing in a Guy Like Kyrie Irving only helps further understand the different levels to ball handling.

Like there are levels to this ball handling game.

Theres folks like Allen Iverson, Isiah Thomas, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving, and theres the rest of the league. Hahaha, no lie, i don't quite understand how is it, with all this technology at their disposal, that they havent figured out a correct way to balance and correlate fluid basketball dribbling to the videogame world.

It seems like they had something good with from 2k10/11/12 and then all of a sudden its like Mike Wang's influence was in full swing from his experience over at live, and then wanted to go back to lives freestyle dribbling system. Which to me, isn't bad, but indicates you saw flaws in your own isomotion system.

I'll be honest with you, i think because Mike Wang worked on live 10, and came back right before 2k11, he didnt get a chance to work on dribbling....we started seeing his influence a little in 12, and DEFINITELY in 2k13, and predominantly in 14'. I honestly feel he wants to bring THIS over here.

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[quehouston]

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Im a huge advocate of the isomotion, but i understand why most would prefer the dribbling stick.

I think isomotion was more realistic in a sense of difficultly. The dribbling stick pretty much allows you to pull off crazy combos of moves with pretty much anyone on the court without that much of a penalty, whereas with isomotion limited isolated dribbling to a realistic clip in, imo.

Isomotion was pretty deep in 2k11, so if you knew what you were doing you could pull off some pretty nice combos. But of course, the ease of the dribbling stick is what everyone loves.

[stillfeelme]

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What's one of the complaints about 2k? Oh that's right....I don't have any control of my player because it's too animation heavy. smh....I'd take controls over everything rather than watch a "mini movie" (Mike/Beluba used those words as well)

Yep that was part of the issue. They need controllable sig dribbles for the crosses sig and size ups. The animations themselves need to be signature and should be able to broken after completing a dribble. You should have to complete your own size up dribble by control not just a mini movie

[quehouston]

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Yep that was part of the issue. They need controllable sig dribbles for the crosses sig and size ups. The animations themselves need to be signature and should be able to broken after completing a dribble. You should have to complete your own size up dribble by control not just a mini movie

While I agree with this, its just so annoying playing against people that attempt ankle breakers with everyone that touches the ball. Thats why I lean more toward Isomotion.

[Vni]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

While I agree with this, its just so annoying playing against people that attempt ankle breakers with everyone that touches the ball.

Theses people will always find a way to make the game look bad regardless.

[Mrleaderboards]

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I dont care what dribble system is in place, NEVER should anyone be allowed to bring the ball up the court with Steve Novak or Al Jefferson and think they can get away with it. They should lose the ball 8/10 times for that stupidity.

[El_Poopador]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

Im a huge advocate of the isomotion, but i understand why most would prefer the dribbling stick.

I think isomotion was more realistic in a sense of difficultly. The dribbling stick pretty much allows you to pull off crazy combos of moves with pretty much anyone on the court without that much of a penalty, whereas with isomotion limited isolated dribbling to a realistic clip in, imo.

Isomotion was pretty deep in 2k11, so if you knew what you were doing you could pull off some pretty nice combos. But of course, the ease of the dribbling stick is what everyone loves.

For me, it's no so much the ease as it is the intuitiveness. The dribble stick makes sense. They just need to find a way to prevent users from abusing it when it shouldn't be. I didn't really care for isomotion because it made it difficult/impossible to do something as simple as a crossover without taking a step as well. It just didn't feel natural.

[Vni]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

All I want them to do is stick with one or the other and go all the way with it. Not change it every year just for the sake of fresh.

[jersez]

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I think if they just improved on The isomotion that they had in 2k10/2k11/2k12 then we would be in a better space. I've gotten used to playing with the right stick fir dribbling, but I must say that signature dribbling, signature gathers and iso setups made 2k11 standout as one of the best implementations of dribble control ever seen in the franchise.

I agree and I'm a advocate of 2k bringing the 2k12 type system back which mixed the canned animations and the size up dribbles we have now. I just don't prefer dribbling system that relies solely on canned animations.

[quehouston]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

For me, it's no so much the ease as it is the intuitiveness. The dribble stick makes sense. They just need to find a way to prevent users from abusing it when it shouldn't be. I didn't really care for isomotion because it made it difficult/impossible to do something as simple as a crossover without taking a step as well. It just didn't feel natural.

THIS.

I'm all for the dribbling stick, as long as we can completely separate ballhandlers from non-ballhandlers. There should be a bigger gap between players that can break there man down off the dribble vs. players that never break their man down vs. players that never put the ball on the floor at all.

[jersez]

Re: Was the dribble stick or old school isomotion more realistic?

I know in da wolfs preview, he said signature dribbling is back, and you have to press up on the RS to trigger it. I'm going to assume that they've brought back canned animated dribbling, and it might be similar to the 2k12's canned animations

[stillfeelme]

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While I agree with this, its just so annoying playing against people that attempt ankle breakers with everyone that touches the ball. Thats why I lean more toward Isomotion.

Yeah I see your point. Isomotion was basically animation specific mini movies that were different for certain players. So you would never get the ankle breaker attempts from players that didn't have it in their package.

Sizes ups should be controlled I feel though:

• Between the legs stationary and then go behind the back to cross over . They (Harden, CP3, Rose, Crawford, DWill) all do it but there are slight differences to it. You should have to do it yourself