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  • Sundown
    MVP
    • Oct 2010
    • 3270

    #76
    Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

    Originally posted by ckgray
    I completely disagree with this comment.
    Which part? The fact that most NBA players are defending off ball? The fact that Curry is schemed so he doesn't have to defend on-ball? Or the fact a lot of twitch guys succeed at one-on-one because of lag and cheesy zig zag and iso spamming, and that the game should be more balanced on both ends rather than make some random, arbitrary, arcade, non-sim decision to take the ability to control non-on-ball defenders away and force on everyone to appease a certain mentality?

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    • ckgray
      Banned
      • Jul 2014
      • 26

      #77
      Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

      Originally posted by Sundown
      Which part? The fact that most NBA players are defending off ball? The fact that Curry is schemed so he doesn't have to defend on-ball? Or the fact a lot of twitch guys succeed at one-on-one because of lag and cheesy zig zag and iso spamming, and that the game should be more balanced on both ends rather than make some random, arbitrary, arcade, non-sim decision to take the ability to control non-on-ball defenders away and force on everyone to appease a certain mentality?
      Umm...I think we know what type of defensive scheme you use. LoL...1-3-1 w/ 0% on-ball D. Probably play with Detroit or Clippers. Spam steal every chance you get. I feel pretty confident in saying that too.

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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14831

        #78
        Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

        Originally posted by ckgray
        Umm...I think we know what type of defensive scheme you use. LoL...1-3-1 w/ 0% on-ball D. Probably play with Detroit or Clippers. Spam steal every chance you get. I feel pretty confident in saying that too.
        You sound ridiculous right now.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #79
          Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

          hmmmm

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          • Scramz718
            MVP
            • May 2012
            • 1324

            #80
            Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

            I like that they're removing the 1-3-1. I hope 2k improves on the defensive end this year. Help D, On ball D and transition D all need some work.


            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            • TheRealHST
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1755

              #81
              Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Elminated

              Originally posted by Vni
              What was the charge cheese ?
              Since 2k put in the charge button years ago, people would just stand half court or full court and wait for you to run into them.

              Its lame and rarely worked but people insisted on doing it.

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              • TheRealHST
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 1755

                #82
                Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Elminated

                Originally posted by OGSPORTS
                What’s good SimNation?!

                I apologize for not posting in here earlier. Anyway… let’s talk about the removal of the 1-3-1 cheddar! As many of you have posted in here, it’s not a defense that NBA teams play. This wasn’t even a hard decision, to be honest. We knew it had to be taken out. I’ve been fortunate enough to speak with over half of the coaches in the league and they have all communicated the same message, “Nobody in league plays a straight 1-3-1.” This includes Doc Rivers, who we spoke with last week. Let us understand that the 1-3-1 that was in 2k14 was the same scheme that you would see in college hoops. I could go on and on for why teams don’t use it.

                I’m big into ranked matches; anyone who’s played online knows that whenever your opponent got in trouble, he would go right to that cheddar zone! There’s obviously other reasons why that zone was so effective, though we will break down those improvements later. I’m very pleased to see the responses thus far for removing it.

                “X’s and O’s”
                I think what may confuse some is when you see that initial 1-3-1 look as the PG is bringing up the ball. I’ve seen it in the NBA as well. This is just a “junk look” until the first pass. For example, a team like Dallas may show a 1-3-1 until the first pass, then they will drop into a 2-3/3-2 or a match up 2-3. You will hear Carlisle yell “13 to 23”…that’s all it means.

                OG

                This post explains it and it was good to get Doc Rivers to set the record straight as well. Now I get it much better than some guy just yelling "cheese" as an explanation

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                • TheRealHST
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1755

                  #83
                  Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                  Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
                  1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

                  This makes no sense. You can't force people to play on ball just because you want them too.

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                  • TheRealHST
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1755

                    #84
                    Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                    Originally posted by Vni
                    You sound ridiculous right now.
                    They're absolutely ridiculous. I can't play this game with 2knazis like this who want you to play the game how they want or ekse you're a bum. Gtfoh

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                    • ckgray
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 26

                      #85
                      Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                      Originally posted by TheRealHST
                      They're absolutely ridiculous. I can't play this game with 2knazis like this who want you to play the game how they want or ekse you're a bum. Gtfoh
                      If you're on XBO, you can play me any way you want. I bet I'll blow you out. Go ahead and pick the Spurs, Thunder, Warriors etc. Won't matter. If you're not an onball defender, you're a scrub all around. I've played enough games to recognize the link between the two.

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                      • KobeBean8
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 124

                        #86
                        Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                        Originally posted by TheRealHST
                        They're absolutely ridiculous. I can't play this game with 2knazis like this who want you to play the game how they want or ekse you're a bum. Gtfoh

                        I am not sure if you including me, but I not a 2K nazi and I like people to play their way, it makes me better and sometimes makes me adjust to new things.

                        I just cannot stand someone who will not guard you at all. It's like, what am I playing online for? I want to play you and see your skills. Not the CPU, I play against them in MP Mode and association.

                        And what else I ask is to just not exploit the game. For example, in 2K11, I just asked to not Hopstep constantly and do spin dunks. You can shoot however many 3s, do as many crossovers, euros and etc. Because I just believe in playing basketball, not all them rules like sim leagues have.

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                        • Melbournelad
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1559

                          #87
                          Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                          Originally posted by Mrleaderboards
                          1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

                          You're not serious, right?

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                          • ChillVillain
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 57

                            #88
                            I don't play online, so I didn't realize the 1-3-1 zone was so overpowered, but I'm glad charges are getting addressed. I'm playing my association on PC and just shut the game off due to the lack of offensive fouls that gets called, even when you bump the slider to 100. The AI would initiate contact and despite me standing perfectly still, I still get called for the foul. From the sounds of it, you guys honestly took that "NBA 2k in real life" video to heart and are really trying to address the issues the game had. October can't come fast enough.

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                            • Chocolate Chip
                              Rookie
                              • May 2013
                              • 351

                              #89
                              Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                              1-2-2 zone as a replacement hmm..

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                              • TheRealHST
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1755

                                #90
                                Re: NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

                                Originally posted by KobeBean8
                                I am not sure if you including me, but I not a 2K nazi and I like people to play their way, it makes me better and sometimes makes me adjust to new things.

                                I just cannot stand someone who will not guard you at all. It's like, what am I playing online for? I want to play you and see your skills. Not the CPU, I play against them in MP Mode and association.

                                And what else I ask is to just not exploit the game. For example, in 2K11, I just asked to not Hopstep constantly and do spin dunks. You can shoot however many 3s, do as many crossovers, euros and etc. Because I just believe in playing basketball, not all them rules like sim leagues have.
                                Some people play on ball some people dont. It's a style choice. You can't tell someone not to hopstep or do spin dunks. Just stop them.

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