NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

[SuperNova854]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

If Drummond is an 83 DeAndre Jordan better be at least an 85. DJ had a much better season then Drummond did. I was expecting a 78 for Drummond.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

I can't believe people are really getting this upset over his overall lol

He probably has a high inside shot, layup, and dunk rating.
Mid 90 offensive/defensive rebound, and block.

As a center in today's NBA, that's all that's asked of you...and weren't we all "so happy" with the new ratings system? Jeez.

" all so happy" is a bit of hyperbole. Interested, intrigued or curious would probably be a fair description.

[Sundown]

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I was a little concerned since Drummond has paring weaknesses, but then thought-- do I consider him important in his role-- and said, yeah I'm okay with this.

I do expect that increasing in rating is actually somewhat difficult in this new system-- if the skills gained don't directly contribute to a role, or may just switch you to a new role where you'll still have a comparative rating.

[lakers24]

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People look into overall too much


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Which is the problem with this crap. Instead of worrying about ACTUAL ratings (which I know 2k isn't releasing) people get antsy about an overall. I see this similar to how I look at team overalls, not really that big a deal tbh. You'll still know and feel the difference between the Cavs and T'Wolves.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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When outside of rebounding, you do nothing else besides put it in well from 3ft, you need to be monumental on defense IMO to be an 83

An 83 in the realm of "rebounders"? Maybe, but how do you slant overalls that way when compared to more complete players like Dwight, Davis and Cousins?

The whole point of an overall rating is for CPU Ai. Last season the game shipped with Andre Drummond as a 72 and Billups an 81. That was terrible. That means they had to do double work to keep the management AI on point. One dimensional or not Drummond is still the most or second most valuable player on the Pistons. The fact that the overall rating reflects this is a step in the right direction.

[Danbo80]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

His speed, quick, and vert are probably real high. Add to that elite rebounding, and many above average ratings(for a center), 83 sounds reasonable. 2k underated Bigs for years.
The New system seems to be correcting that.

[Danbo80]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

The whole point of an overall rating is for CPU Ai. Last season the game shipped with Andre Drummond as a 72 and Billups an 81. That was terrible. That means they had to do double work to keep the management AI on point. One dimensional or not Drummond is still the most or second most valuable player on the Pistons. The fact that the overall rating reflects this is a step in the right direction.

Thank you for saying what I was thinking. This new system seems like a value system instead of just pure overall.

If Drummond hit the market as a FA right now, He would be in high demand. IMO 10-12 mil per. Yeah that may be overpaying him, but thats what good big men go for.

I don't think they over estimated his individual ratings. They just increased his value.

[Mr.Smif]

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I think they said the new ratings system is based on how valuable a player is too his team, Drummond at 83 seems about right, because even though he is not the best overall player in the NBA, he's VERY valuable to his team.

[Mr.Smif]

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If Drummond is an 83 DeAndre Jordan better be at least an 85. DJ had a much better season then Drummond did. I was expecting a 78 for Drummond.

I doubt Jordan will be rated higher, he should be rated lower according to the new rating system. The Clippers have players more valuable to the team than Jordan, he's is not as valuable to his team as Drummond is to his.

[ksuttonjr76]

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It'll be interesting what they'll rate Hibbert.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

The whole point of an overall rating is for CPU Ai. Last season the game shipped with Andre Drummond as a 72 and Billups an 81. That was terrible. That means they had to do double work to keep the management AI on point. One dimensional or not Drummond is still the most or second most valuable player on the Pistons. The fact that the overall rating reflects this is a step in the right direction.

i totally understand that. i re-rated my whole roster in addition to scaling down potential for everyone but centers because of those exact issues.

But with the admittedly limited information given, so far im seeing it as a value boost for role players to be compatible with the current a.i in the absence of a 'team system value'. And if thats the case fine, thats just not what I understood it to be.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

CENTER RATINGS
83 - Andre Drummond (+6) DET
67 - Jeff Ayres (+4) SAS
67 - Cole Aldrich (+6) NYK
67 - Aaron Gray (+11) DET
67 - Miroslav Raduljica (+11) MIL
66 - DeWayne Dedmon (+6) ORL
66 - Joel Anthony (+7) BOS
65 - Brendan Haywood (+1) CLE
65 - Hasheem Thabeet (+8) OKC

Drummond's boost is consistent with the rest. It's likely that the formula just weighs rebounding and blocks EVEN MORE than it already did. All centers should be going up, which is fine, as it was the most underrated position by far.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

If Drummond is an 83 DeAndre Jordan better be at least an 85. DJ had a much better season then Drummond did. I was expecting a 78 for Drummond.

Drummond
22.6 PER - 13th in NBA
59.9 TS% on 16.7 USG% (42 FT%) - 9th in NBA for TS%
17.5 ORB% - 1st in NBA by a mile - 2nd was 14.4% from Damuel Dalembert
27.7 DRB% - 9th in NBA
2.2 AST%
2.0 STL% - elite mark for a center
4.0 BLK% - 10th in NBA

Jordan
18.2 PER
63.0 TS% on 12.4 USG% (43 FT%) - 4th in NBA for TS%
13.3 ORB% - 5th in NBA
29.3 DRB% - 4th in NBA
3.7 AST%
1.4 STL%
5.4 BLK% - 4th in NBA

They are very similar players, same strengths and weaknesses. However, Drummond had the best offensive rebounding season in 18 years, and 17th best in NBA history.

Players with better seasons
Dennis Rodman: 6
Moses Malone: 5
Jayson Williams: 2
Popeye Jones, Chris Dudley, Larry Smith: 1 each

Drummond was better than a few Rodman/Moses seasons, better than any season Hakeem, Barkley, or Reggie Evans and all other rebound specialists ever had.

Going by 2K's rating scale, Drummond would deserve 113 ORB rating. That's how good his Age 20 season was (it goes without saying that Drummond is EASILY the youngest player ever to put up those kind of ORB numbers.).

[Detroitfan4life1993]

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He definitley deserves the 83 overall rating imo because hes the best player on the pistons and their most valuable player. For the people who think 83 is too high for him it's not like him being an 83 is going to make him a post god or something. He is still going to play like Andre in real life, grabbing every rebound, getting every putback, getting some steals and blocks and dunking on everyone. He won't have a crazy hook shot or fade away. I expect him to have 99 offensive/defensive rebound ratings with tenacious rebounder sig skill, a high inside rating with possible finisher sig skill, decent steal rating and block rating, good speed and agility, and great dunk ratings. It should be fun to see how he improves next season and how much his overall goes up also.

[Rell7thirty]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

83 sounds about right. Those of you saying it's too high haven't seen him play enough.. His weakness is his free throw percentage. He doesn't need a post game just yet, and when he does develop it, his rating will be in the high 80s.

I just hope Steph is rated near or equal as Chris Paul. What one lacks still balances for the other. And please, don't rate Blake Griffin 99.. I know he had an amazing season, but let's chill out with the 99 ratings.

Thanks