NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

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  • Phreezy P
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    • Jan 2010
    • 3219

    #31
    Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

    Originally posted by Rell7thirty
    83 sounds about right. Those of you saying it's too high haven't seen him play enough.. His weakness is his free throw percentage. He doesn't need a post game just yet, and when he does develop it, his rating will be in the high 80s.

    I just hope Steph is rated near or equal as Chris Paul. What one lacks still balances for the other. And please, don't rate Blake Griffin 99.. I know he had an amazing season, but let's chill out with the 99 ratings.

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    Pretty sure 2K said there were no 99 overall players in the game. And chill with the 99 ratings? Only Lebron has been rated 99.
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    • BluFu
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      • May 2012
      • 3596

      #32
      Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

      Dwight is pretty much confirmed to be the 4th 90 rated player

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      • Crystar500
        Pro
        • Jul 2013
        • 801

        #33
        Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

        Does James Ennis have such a low rating they forgot to tweet him his rating and picture?

        Drummond at 83 is pretty deserving, by the way. He can ball.

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        • Boilerbuzz
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          • Jul 2002
          • 5154

          #34
          Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

          Originally posted by Mr.Smif
          I doubt Jordan will be rated higher, he should be rated lower according to the new rating system. The Clippers have players more valuable to the team than Jordan, he's is not as valuable to his team as Drummond is to his.

          You took that too literally or the dude misspoke. First: DJ is HIGHLY valuable to the Clippers. He is THE anchor defensively. He's as important to them defensively as CP3 is offensively. With that said, if DJ was dangled as trade bait, you better damn well believe there would be teams beating down the door to get him. Yeah, he needs to be quite a few points higher than Drummond. It's not his value to a specific team. It value to any team in their role.

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          • Boilerbuzz
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            #35
            Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

            Originally posted by BluFu
            Dwight is pretty much confirmed to be the 4th 90 rated player

            Where did you see that? If any center is a 90, I'd make it Joakim Noah. I admit my Bulls bias, but the dude was in the conversation for MVP. This is coming from the guy that raged when he was picked!

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            • prolifik
              Rookie
              • Sep 2003
              • 85

              #36
              Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

              That is about the same rating Tyson Chandler was a few years ago. IMO they are the same type of player. Except chandler has much better awareness but Drummond is so much more athletic. Personally, I would have aimed for an 80 rating, but this is fine with me.
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              • Rockie_Fresh88
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                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #37
                Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                Originally posted by Rashidi
                CENTER RATINGS
                83 - Andre Drummond (+6) DET
                67 - Jeff Ayres (+4) SAS
                67 - Cole Aldrich (+6) NYK
                67 - Aaron Gray (+11) DET
                67 - Miroslav Raduljica (+11) MIL
                66 - DeWayne Dedmon (+6) ORL
                66 - Joel Anthony (+7) BOS
                65 - Brendan Haywood (+1) CLE
                65 - Hasheem Thabeet (+8) OKC

                Drummond's boost is consistent with the rest. It's likely that the formula just weighs rebounding and blocks EVEN MORE than it already did. All centers should be going up, which is fine, as it was the most underrated position by far.
                This should've closed the discussion right here . Dwight just might be at least a 90
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                • poster
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 7506

                  #38
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                  Not really concerned with the rating, but Dre Drummond is a force! They involved him less in the offense as the season went on and his numbers improved during this time period. The advanced stats shown above tell the story, very impressive at age 20. Now he has SVG as his coach, so he will finally have someone who knows what they are doing guiding him.

                  He is also has a legit big man's body at 7'0", while being a freak athlete. This is a rare commodity. He will only get better unless injury comes into play, which I hope never does. He has holes in his game, but will only improve.

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 17294

                    #39
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                    Based on the info we've been given on the new overall formulas so far, maybe it's possible that one formula heavily favors a rebounding center, or heavily favors a center with high potential so that a guy like Drummond would be valued more than an 80 overall 30+ year old C that might have better attributes right now, but since Drummond would have the higher potential, that might factor into the overall rating and give him a boost over the older player.

                    Who knows? We'll know more when they release more info on how the overall formula works this year, but I think an 83 for a rebounding or potential favoring formula is pretty good for Drummond.
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                    • Blackhail92
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 412

                      #40
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                      Originally posted by BluFu
                      Dwight is pretty much confirmed to be the 4th 90 rated player
                      I was thinking the same thing. But I'm still holding out hope for melo. He already got shafted in all nba teams for having his best year cause Knicks were trash. 2k has to make him a 90 considering everyone else on the team will be below 80

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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29806

                        #41
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                        Originally posted by Rashidi
                        Drummond
                        22.6 PER - 13th in NBA
                        59.9 TS% on 16.7 USG% (42 FT%) - 9th in NBA for TS%
                        17.5 ORB% - 1st in NBA by a mile - 2nd was 14.4% from Damuel Dalembert
                        27.7 DRB% - 9th in NBA
                        2.2 AST%
                        2.0 STL% - elite mark for a center
                        4.0 BLK% - 10th in NBA

                        Jordan
                        18.2 PER
                        63.0 TS% on 12.4 USG% (43 FT%) - 4th in NBA for TS%
                        13.3 ORB% - 5th in NBA
                        29.3 DRB% - 4th in NBA
                        3.7 AST%
                        1.4 STL%
                        5.4 BLK% - 4th in NBA

                        They are very similar players, same strengths and weaknesses. However, Drummond had the best offensive rebounding season in 18 years, and 17th best in NBA history.

                        Players with better seasons
                        Dennis Rodman: 6
                        Moses Malone: 5
                        Jayson Williams: 2
                        Popeye Jones, Chris Dudley, Larry Smith: 1 each

                        Drummond was better than a few Rodman/Moses seasons, better than any season Hakeem, Barkley, or Reggie Evans and all other rebound specialists ever had.

                        Going by 2K's rating scale, Drummond would deserve 113 ORB rating. That's how good his Age 20 season was (it goes without saying that Drummond is EASILY the youngest player ever to put up those kind of ORB numbers.).

                        Jordan still led the league in rebounding, and is a better all around defender, by a fairly large margin right now. We can say Drummond had the best ORB% in 100 years, but Jordan was still the better all around rebounder, and led the league in FG%..

                        Not saying either or should have a higher overall, but they should be very similar.. I could understand Drummond being a nice bump higher if the whole "value to their team" rating is how it really is.. But that makes me question if players overall changes if they move teams, or if the team adds new players, which that to me wouldn't make much sense.


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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #42
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          Jordan still led the league in rebounding, and is a better all around defender, by a fairly large margin right now. We can say Drummond had the best ORB% in 100 years, but Jordan was still the better all around rebounder, and led the league in FG%..

                          Not saying either or should have a higher overall, but they should be very similar.. I could understand Drummond being a nice bump higher if the whole "value to their team" rating is how it really is.. But that makes me question if players overall changes if they move teams, or if the team adds new players, which that to me wouldn't make much sense.


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                          I'm not positive, but I don't think this is true. I'm pretty sure Drummond's TRB% was higher than DeAndre as well.

                          I do agree that DeAndre is probably a better defender at this point in time though.

                          Regarding the bottom part of your post, they said that their overalls will not change when traded. They simply have many different overall formulas, and whichever results in the highest overall for a given player is the one that is displayed regardless of the team fit.
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                          • luda06
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 572

                            #43
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                            Originally posted by SuperNova854
                            If Drummond is an 83 DeAndre Jordan better be at least an 85. DJ had a much better season then Drummond did. I was expecting a 78 for Drummond.
                            If the playoffs determine having a much better season, then I'd agree with you.

                            Drummond finished the season with 57 double-doubles, which is only second to Kevin Love. Jordan is a distant 8th place with 42.

                            Drummond had some astounding performances last season as well, in which his best performance included a game with 31 points, 19 boards, 6 steals, and 2 blocks. Unfortunately for the casual fan, that's just the tip of the iceberg.

                            Andre's a beast, and it's pretty sad that so many are ignorant of how dominant he can be in the paint, or simply on defense alone.

                            Anyways, I compiled some feeds of how easy his buckets were last season. Imagine what Stan Van Gundy will do with this young man. More touches? Plays being called for him?





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                            • eko718
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 2257

                              #44
                              Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                              In my PC roster update, I had Drummond exactly at 83. I rate for accuracy of individual ratings, not for overalls. 83 is not the stretch it sounds like it may be... it wasn't hard for him to get there when rated accurately.

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                              • jr2424
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                                • Sep 2007
                                • 430

                                #45
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

                                Originally posted by luda06
                                If the playoffs determine having a much better season, then I'd agree with you.

                                Drummond finished the season with 57 double-doubles, which is only second to Kevin Love. Jordan is a distant 8th place with 42.

                                Drummond had some astounding performances last season as well, in which his best performance included a game with 31 points, 19 boards, 6 steals, and 2 blocks. Unfortunately for the casual fan, that's just the tip of the iceberg.

                                Andre's a beast, and it's pretty sad that so many are ignorant of how dominant he can be in the paint, or simply on defense alone.

                                Anyways, I compiled some feeds of how easy his buckets were last season. Imagine what Stan Van Gundy will do with this young man. More touches? Plays being called for him?





                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQ8EYNfE60
                                If Van Gundy's last couple of seasons in Orlando are any indication, Drummond will be called upon to set a lot of screens and roll to the rim, which will suck in the defense for open 3s. The Magic were known for all the 3s they took despite having Howard in the middle. Maybe Van Gundy will run more post-ups now because Greg Monroe can't stretch the floor like Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu could.
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