NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

[Factzzz]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond Overall 83

Everyone in this thread is missing the most important thing... They fixed the Pistons jersey.

They definitely fixed the piping, and possibly darkened the blue to match real life.

This bodes well for the Raptors jerseys as well.

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As for the ratings, who cares what the overall is as long as they play like themselves on the court, and as long as their stats at the end of a simulated season reflect the players real life stats.

[ecovyoudug]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Well we all know how tricky 2K is with their rating systems in the past. So lets see what this all consist of, it may make more sense. I change ratings myself every year so I'm not bothered lol. Drummond will be 76-77 at best in my game. Very talented player who has potential to be special in the league, he and DeAndre are very similar. I'd give the nod to DJ though, who I feel finally cracked 80 in my book.

[Boilerbuzz]

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MAN, I hated that pick. Looking at him with his dumb hair and his stupid seersucker suit just pissed me off, I hated that kid at Florida, but once he got drafted and I had to accept him as our own, I grew to love him. I wouldn't trade him for anything(except the LeBron's/KD's of the world)

Right there with you. I would not trade him for ANY other center in the league. Including Howard.

But in regards to your original post, I don't think he should be rated a 90, I'd give him a 86-87 though...

I wasn't saying he should be 90. I was saying that if ANY center were a 90, it should be him. That's all. I'd say he's and Howard are 88-89.

[da ThRONe]

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People who say Drummond has no offensive skill isn't doing any homework. He has less of his made baskets assisted than people like Blake Griffin, Serge Ibaka, and Anthony Davis.

Drummond post game is raw and mostly basic, but it certain isn't nonexistent. When you couple his budding post game with his elite level touch around the basket I think in his prime he surpasses Howard especially offensively.

This is just a taste of his offensive skillset.

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[Kaanyr Vhok]

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Where did you see that? If any center is a 90, I'd make it Joakim Noah. I admit my Bulls bias, but the dude was in the conversation for MVP. This is coming from the guy that raged when he was picked!

Dwight was not the reason Houston got bumped. He is really hard to guard in the post one on one. He has simple moves but they work. He has jump hooks, a fast dribble drive and he makes reverse layups at a high clip.

[ojandpizza]

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People who say Drummond has no offensive isn't doing any homework. He has less of his made baskets assisted than people like Blake Griffin, Serge Ibaka, and Anthony Davis.

Drummond post game is raw and mostly basic, but it certain isn't nonexistent. When you couple his budding post game with his elite level touch around the basket I think in his prime he surpasses Howard especially offensively.

This is just a taste of his offensive skillset.

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Less assisted baskets because likely 90% of his points come from offensive rebounds. He legit has less post moves and inside footwork than even Dwight, IMO.

Elite level touch? Idk about that but I won't argue it, I haven't even heard the few Pistons fans on here say that though.

He may pass Dwight in his prime, who knows. But that doesn't justify his rating for next season. When he can carry a team offensively, carry a team to the finals or even playoffs, average over 20 points on just 11 shots, and have playoff averages like Dwight has had, then maybe we can get back to that discussion.


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[ojandpizza]

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Dwight was not the reason Houston got bumped. He is really hard to guard in the post one on one. He has simple moves but they work. He has jump hooks, a fast dribble drive and he makes reverse layups at a high clip.

He averaged 26 and 14, he was definitely not the reason they lost. Let's point the finger at Harden who's defense was non existent and refused to stop jacking up bad jumpers every trip up the court.. He took 9 threes per game despite the fact he was only hitting 29% of them, ridiculous.


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[Sundown]

NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

Okay, from the other thread, I have to say I have a MAJOR problem with Bogut being rated an 80 while Drummond is a 83.

Bogut is easily better and more important in his role anchoring a top defensive team than Drummond, and is currently just a much better player overall. It's just the injury concerns.

This makes me worried the new system may overrate athleticism again and depresses the value of bigs who just effectively do their jobs because they're simply better and smarter basketball players. Not to mention Bogut's offensive facilitating smarts beyond his own shot making. Bogut should at least be an 85 given role and how hugely important big men are. He's 2nd or 3rd in importance behind Curry and on the tier of Jordan, Noah, healthy Tyson Chandler, Hibbert (when you average him out), etc. and as a homer I'd say he's better than some of them.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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Right there with you. I would not trade him for ANY other center in the league. Including Howard.



I wasn't saying he should be 90. I was saying that if ANY center were a 90, it should be him. That's all. I'd say he's and Howard are 88-89.

Odd. I didnt think Portland had a chance at Oden so I wanted Batum and Noah. They had two picks I wanted them to go French. Noah was tough at Florida. I was also high on Drummond.

[Boilerbuzz]

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[Boilerbuzz]

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Odd. I didnt think Portland had a chance at Oden so I wanted Batum and Noah. They had two picks I wanted them to go French. Noah was tough at Florida. I was also high on Drummond.

I wanted Young. But I'm cool with what we got.

[gremdog8]

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Okay, from the other thread, I have to say I have a MAJOR problem with Bogut being rated an 80 while Drummond is a 83.

Bogut is easily better and more important in his role anchoring a top defensive team than Drummond, and is currently just a much better player overall. It's just the injury concerns.

This makes me worried the new system may overrate athleticism again and depresses the value of bigs who just effectively do their jobs because they're simply better and smarter basketball players. Not to mention Bogut's offensive facilitating smarts beyond his own shot making. Bogut should at least be an 85 given role and how hugely important big men are. He's 2nd or 3rd in importance behind Curry and on the tier of Jordan, Noah, healthy Tyson Chandler, Hibbert (when you average him out), etc. and as a homer I'd say he's better than some of them.

I agree somewhat on what your saying but making Bogut a 85? I don't see that, only centers in the game I think should even be consider to be 85 or better is Howard and Noah with possibility of Cousins and Marc Gasol .. before anybody says Anthony Davis, he is going to play PF with Asik.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Davis is going to blow up this year. He is still a center even of he will play PF with Asik.

[eko718]

Re: NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

To say if this player is x, this player should be z doesn't even make sense, because the overall rating is not really even a rating at all, it is a visual composite of individual ratings. For me, as long as the individual rankings are accurate across the board, that is the important thing. The overalls can fall as they fall.

Overalls can look nice and tidy and in line with general expectation(though you can NEVER please everyone with this) but if you look under the hood and find stuff like Kyrie Irving(one of the worst on-ball defenders last year) having a 78 on the ball defense while Patrick Beverley(one of the best on-ball defenders last two years) has a 74 for on the ball D, then these are issues that ruin the game and cause a lack of realism.

Staying on Kyrie, I'm more concerned about his outrageously inaccurate 95 speed and 92 vertical ratings(2K14) than modifying it so that Lillard can be rated one point lower overall than he is, simply because someone thinks "Kyrie is better than Lillard" and attaches that expectation to the overall rating.

There have been for years so many ratings in 2K that were an absolute disorganized mess with no rhyme or reason and plenty of exaggeration. I'm glad that at least it appears that the game will be freshly rated this year, rating by rating, and hopefully according to a scale that weighs data more heavily than fandom. If they do that, I say let the 'overall' chips fall where they may.

[ojandpizza]

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Here is the only problem I have with Drummond's rating of an 83.

It has be claimed that only 4 guys are rated in the 90's correct? We have LeBron and Durant for sure. I'm going to assume Chris Paul is a 3rd..

That leaves Dwight/Melo/Harden/Curry/Aldridge/Blake/Love/Westbrook/George/Davis/ and whoever else might possibly be able to crack the 90's..

Let's say a couple of those guys are 88's that means they only separate themselves from Drummond by 5 points. There is a MUCH larger gap than that between Drummond and the leagues elite stars. How much of a gap does that create between the other guys who aren't quite at that top level? Guys like Wall/Klay/Kyrie/Gasol/Jefferson/Cousins/DeRozan/Lillard/Wade/Bosh, etc.. Is there a chance Drummond is actually better than them, or even other guys he might not should be?

And I know we say "overall is just a number" and that's true to an extent.. If I'm just at home playing a quick game against the CPU or a friend then overall really means nothing.. But I've always been a franchise/dynasty/myGM guy.. That's pretty much all I play. And overall does play a factor. It determines who starts on the computer teams, how much trade value a player has, the types of touches the player gets, etc.


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