A Few More Short NBA 2K15 Video Clips - Knicks vs. Cavs & Lakers/Warriors Ratings

[Rell7thirty]

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Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning.

Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89.

I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe.

Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself.

Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

Edit: not to mention, iguadola should be rated higher. All defensive first team, athletic, sick handles (crossover of the year 2014), one of the best on a fast break, good iq, can jump out of the gym, is pretty clutch when it comes down to it.

[Rondee]

I spent a season watching Barnes be terrible regardless of his minutes.

Barnes was not "good" his rookie year. He was just somewhat competent for a rookie, with a decent run in playoffs because every coach literally gameplanned to allow Barnes to post up on PGs rather than let Curry shoot the ball. Somehow he regressed, and I will say much of it was due to him being run in Mark Jackson's benchmobs. However, if he was a star, he would manage to distinguish himself, especially playing against other benches.

So I did:

Draymond Green had 21.9 minutes per game.

Barnes had 28.3 minutes per game.


That is MORE than he had in 2012-13 (25.4 per game). That is more than Andre Bogut. And that is just 4 less than Iguodala, against weaker competition.

Barnes shot .399% FG. That is abysmal with plenty of court time, much of it undeserved.

Barnes got his minutes. He just wasn't very good. Poor basketball IQ, poor creator, poor motor, poor lateral speed (his footwork on the perimeter is terrible-- he starts out spread legged and gets no displacement on his first step), poor ball handler, inefficient midrange shooter, poor rebounder for his size. He's an average defender and not a very good scorer who's especially terrible in isolation. I think he could pick up his shooting since he has good form, but in no world is Barnes even remotely comparable to Green. Physicals are often overrated as "ceiling", but the mental aspect is just as important and sometimes more elusive.

Now I'm still rooting for him, and I think his lack of role definition contributed much to his regression, as well as a possible foot injury and lost confidence-- but no sober basketball analysis can say that Barnes wasn't good only because he wasn't getting minutes, or that he's as valuable player as Green.

Okay so he got more minutes, you're right. I should've checked, but it just seemed like he never got quality minutes, they were mostly to relieve Iggy toward the end of quarters. My point is that he hasn't had the chance to develop.

Draymond is definitely the more valuable player by far, i'm not contesting that , but I'm still high on Barnes. He hasn't shown how good he can be. Draymond is good, but he is a role guy and last year is about as good as he'll be.

[ojandpizza]

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Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning.



Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89.



I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe.



Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself.



Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

Kobe is rated an 89 because he's Kobe.. Should he be rated as high, or higher, than guys like Melo, Harden, Westbrook, Dwight, Curry, Blake, Aldridge, Paul George, etc.. Definitely not, but 2k would be pissing off a very large fan base by lowering Kobe too much.

If he can somehow regain his form from a couple years ago then he'll deserve the 89, if he's slipped which common sense would say he has, I think it would be fair to see 2k lower him some like they do other players.


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[Rondee]

Loving these gameplay vids. Can't wait to play! I haven't really noticed the player to court ratio some people are mentioning.

Love the fact Curry is rated 89, which is what I predicted with the new rating system. What I don't understand is, how in the world is Kobe Bryant, who missed a huge portion of last season, not to mention his long struggles with durability (ton of ankle sprains where he's missed months, torn wrist ligaments, bum right knee, ruptured achiles, fractured tibia on the other leg).. I'm not saying he hasn't bounced back, but he's 36 with a lot of miles.. A lot of injuries, two which were relatively recent and effects both his legs.. Averaged 13.8 ppg in 30mpg and honestly didn't look like Kobe. Yet, somehow, the guy is rated 89.

I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe.

Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself.

Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

Edit: not to mention, iguadola should be rated higher. All defensive first team, athletic, sick handles (crossover of the year 2014), one of the best on a fast break, good iq, can jump out of the gym, is pretty clutch when it comes down to it.

I haven't noticed the court issue either. 2k has always seemed fine with this.

[Blackhail92]

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I'm sorry, but that page has been turned. Right now, I don't believe he's capable of playing 82 games, 46 minutes per, and dropping close to 30 points per.. Which is what Melo does, and it scares me because I know if Chris Paul is the last addition to the 90s club, Melo will be rated the same as Kobe.

Unless wisdom, and amount of championship rings, and accomplishments are a factor in your overall rating, I just don't see how Kobe Bryant could be rated 89 without proving himself.

Tldr; Kobe Bryant rated 89 is an eyebrow raiser. And wrong. IMO

I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

[Rondee]

Kobe is rated an 89 because he's Kobe.. Should he be rated as high, or higher, than guys like Melo, Harden, Westbrook, Dwight, Curry, Blake, Aldridge, Paul George, etc.. Definitely not, but 2k would be pissing off a very large fan base by lowering Kobe too much.

If he can somehow regain his form from a couple years ago then he'll deserve the 89, if he's slipped which common sense would say he has, I think it would be fair to see 2k lower him some like they do other players.


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Same with his latest contract. Ridiculous money because he is Kobe.

Agree with Iggy needing a higher rating. Klay too, who's way better defensively this summer.

[Rell7thirty]

Re: A Few More Short NBA 2K15 Video Clips - Knicks vs. Cavs & Lakers/Warriors Ratings

I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Exactly. Melo should be 91 with the new rating system. It's kind of insulting if Duncan, no offense-he's a tremendous (unmarketable) player, is rated higher than Melo who is arguably top 3 in the league right now in terms of offensive dominance. Cp3 should be rated overall the same as Curry. Curry is better offensively but Paul is better defensively, and also has an insanely low assist to turnover ratio.

[biatch0]

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My takeaway from these videos is that CPU defenders appear to no longer mindlessly collapse onto someone driving into the paint (leaving anyone near the 3 point line wide open). That said, I can't really tell from the videos that rebounding/boxing out has been improved - hopefully no more repeat of me and my 4 CPU team mates that collapsed into the paint get outrebounded 3 times in a row by Patrick Beverly in 2k14.

[Rondee]

I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Amare... That guy should not be rated higher than a Speights 72.

[Rondee]

Other than Melo and JR though, you've got calderon,bargnani, felton, and shumpert who should all rate around where JR should be if not a bit higher

[gremdog8]

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I have a strange feeling melo will be a 90 or 91, not like anyone else on the Knicks should be good(besides maybe JR and maybe amare) I can't remember he last time melo was under a 90 out of a box 2k roster. Career year in rebounds should help his case but Kobe being an 89 is a stretch. Rose will prob be in the 86-87 range. Interested on what harden, cp3 and Blake will be

Pretty sure the 4 guys at 90+ are Duncan, Cp3, KD, Lebron. Kobe is my favorite player and I think the 89 rating is way too much, if DWade from what I have seen is a 85 then Kobe should be about that range as well.

[Sports fanantic]

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I would have thought Iggy would get a higher Rating, considering his strong connection with 2K

I wonder if Barbosa will make the Warriors roster when the game comes out?

[KDurant35]

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Exactly. Melo should be 91 with the new rating system. It's kind of insulting if Duncan, no offense-he's a tremendous (unmarketable) player, is rated higher than Melo who is arguably top 3 in the league right now in terms of offensive dominance. Cp3 should be rated overall the same as Curry. Curry is better offensively but Paul is better defensively, and also has an insanely low assist to turnover ratio.

CP3 should be rated higher than Curry.


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[Eduardo23]

Why haven't they fixed kyrie at all, he still looks dumb af. And his sig jumpshot is still way off

[turty11]

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i have a huge problem with kobe being an 89.

its either

1. overalls are dictated far too much by IQ still

and/or

2. ratings are still absolutely horid.

try an 80-84....


for those of you griping about melo needing to be 90+....you keep mentioning offense..you realize overall, means more than offense..RIGHT?

@fanatic i think its unlikely for barbosa..they already have like 18 players atm lol, and i dont see him making the active roster