What are the chances that the....

[Vni]

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I'm amazed that anyone actually had to ask that question, really. With all of the past crying about keeping the rosters up to date, why would they NOT hire him?

It's mind boggling that it took so long but I give 2K credit for finally pulling the trigger on one of theses talented roster maker.

Their out of the box rosters used to bring the game's quality down so much.

[Colts18]

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Yea I never understood what took them so long. The rosters definitely took away from the quality of the game and have off tendencies made people think the game was broken when all they needed to do was edit the tendencies.

[Vni]

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It's like something happened at the 2K office lol. Beds, Czar, OG....

Even the menus man. They look so good, so different to the crap we usually get.

Let's get some gameplay news now come on though.

[J_Posse]

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Supposedly the stats are better and 10+ assists are possible again. I am a little confused by some of this years' ratings if Beds was behind them. They've improved in some areas but quite a few are scratch inducing.

Maybe there's a power struggle between him and 2K Insider or something. Lol

Sundown, how can anything be "scratching inducing" when we don't know the individual ratings just the overall for some players?

I like what I've seen so far and hope that Beds has looked over the free-agency list as well. I might actually be able to start a MyLeague with the default roster for the first time in forever.


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[Sundown]

What are the chances that the....

until we get some answers about ratings and what not, (which shouldnt have to wait for release because it SPOILS NOTHING)

Lol. I don't think that gif fully grasps how the Ned Stark meme works:

[Sundown]

What are the chances that the....

Sundown, how can anything be "scratching inducing" when we don't know the individual ratings just the overall for some players?

I like what I've seen so far and hope that Beds has looked over the free-agency list as well. I might actually be able to start a MyLeague with the default roster for the first time in forever.


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Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green being rated the same is scratch inducing, regardless how how they're rated individually, if the new OVR is supposed to be a better measure of value based on role.

Green does almost everything better than Barnes outside of jumping straight up.

Also Iggy's massive drop seems inconsistent with his actual real life contributions in his role.

I do hope at least the tendencies are spot on.

[HowDareI]

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What are the chances that my 6th man can actually stay the 6th man..

Or Chris Kaman can stop averaging Shaq-Like double doubles..

What are the chances Lebron and Melo stop going to Utah in Free Agency..

Hopefully all the changes to the ratings in the roster and all these updates fix this stuff, because I can't play associations anymore until this stuff stops happening lol

[Goffs]

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I'm amazed that anyone actually had to ask that question, really. With all of the past crying about keeping the rosters up to date, why would they NOT hire him?

Seems like people are just salty that Beds got hired and not them...that's my take anyway

[Sundown]

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Seems like people are just salty that Beds got hired and not them...that's my take anyway

I thought they were asking what the point was if the rosters were going to continue to be problematic with past issues.

[Colts18]

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Seems like people are just salty that Beds got hired and not them...that's my take anyway

That is all it is man. Dude has been putting in work for years on the PS3 side. Be happy a community member is getting a chance to help us out. We all benefit.

[ffaacc03]

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We have to be aware that while rosters do impact the sim stat engine, the engine itself had problems aside from roster imputs.

I have yet to see a custom roster that reflected above 4 blks per game, multiple players with 10+ assist per game, with 20+ rebounds per games, with 35+ pts per game for players, that is, with team attempted FGs and teams PPG averages in line with the stats posted across the league when they were gotten in real life.

I have also yet to see, a custom roster that would reflect playoffs results or standings (with or without injuries) with a range of Ws & Ls much more in line with what is expected. The normal results would reflect teams much more packed vs one another, with too similar records.

The "bug/restriction" that prevented roster management settings to integrally port from main to the modes, was also roster unrelated.

To say that Beds inclussion wasnt worthy if those issues remain, is just such a narrowminded comment that showcases the lack of knowledge we have of how things work. This is something pertaining to developers, not producers nor assistants, then again, they should translate our sentiments if, once the game is out, this remains bugged and we voice it ... I know I have yet to see footage about any of this issues been back and given how many of my claims have been alledgly fixed (instead of the usual silence, lack of acknowledging or vague/timid responses that we suffered on recent years), I choose to give the 2k staff the benefit of the doubt.

Now, if people were to argue about the consistency of Bed edits or lack of frequent updates, then that is something I would be also criticizing ... yet refuse to do it at the moment, as wuld be solely based on overalls (here ? on OS, ouch ?, how much have we regressed since 2010), specially when there are modifications to it, to how it is calculated and since there are new ratings and tendencies added (some of them that we do not know yet).

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I also refuse to critic him for a bad AI behavior on what was an evident play been run ... we should know that plays arent governed by tendencies nor ratings, they are dictated by what was diagramed and Da-Czar already made his remarks about it, further cementing that has little to do with roster edits.

Did I saw things, roster related, that may need some improvement ? maybe, but until I can have some minimum sample size, some context or certainty, wont bite and start blaming for lack of effort, usefullness or alike ...

we, roster makers should know very well that until a roster is completely done (ratings, tendencies, plays, playtypes, sigshots, animations, sliders, etc) its impact cant be fairly judged and even then, there are things that are hardcoded that roster edits dont influence and instances were the game just dont reflect ones edits.

Having said that, will copy this response I gave on another thread, as I think it relates to the now "official" roster and what we should expect:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...3&postcount=70

Anyways, here is to hope for an improved sim stats engine.

[turty11]

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Seems like people are just salty that Beds got hired and not them...that's my take anyway

thank you for making me laugh.. atleast for me that is so far from the truth i actually spit some soda on my desk.

sure, if i got hired by 2k i would make the most in depth life like rosters ever put in a video game..but i dont need to work for 2k to do it either lol

[J_Posse]

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Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green being rated the same is scratch inducing, regardless how how they're rated individually, if the new OVR is supposed to be a better measure of value based on role.

Green does almost everything better than Barnes outside of jumping straight up.

Also Iggy's massive drop seems inconsistent with his actual real life contributions in his role.

I do hope at least the tendencies are spot on.

Green is a tweener and doesn't do any one thing really well, TBH. Barnes is more athletic while his numbers were suppressed by his reduced role. Green is still the higher rated player.

Iguodala ' s rating has decreased because his statistical output continues to decrease. He's still great defensively and at being a point - forward, but his offensive game is becoming non - existent. He also has durability issues, is poor at the line for a wing player and is now on the wrong side of 30.

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[turty11]

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Green is a tweener and doesn't do any one thing really well, TBH. Barnes is more athletic while his numbers were suppressed by his reduced role. Green is still the higher rated player.

Iguodala ' s rating has decreased because his statistical output continues to decrease. He's still great defensively and at being a point - forward, but his offensive game is becoming non - existent. He also has durability issues, is poor at the line for a wing player and is now on the wrong side of 30.

cmon bruh

1. draymond can play 2-5, and defend them also. he averages nearly 3+ block-steals per 40, can hit any shot, and can even pass the ball. hes a much better all around player than harrison, hes just "old" being a 4 year guy --his BBIQ also blows harrisons away

2. iggy was mad efficient on offensive, he just happened to finally find a team where he is option #4 and was more of a point-forward than anything. with the new overall system, and extra IQ categories, iggy should be high 80's

i could go on, but its pointless

[psyberkayos]

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cmon bruh

1. draymond can play 2-5, and defend them also. he averages nearly 3+ block-steals per 40, can hit any shot, and can even pass the ball. hes a much better all around player than harrison, hes just "old" being a 4 year guy --his BBIQ also blows harrisons away

2. iggy was mad efficient on offensive, he just happened to finally find a team where he is option #4 and was more of a point-forward than anything.

i could go on, but its pointless

1. he can pass? his assists suck. Per-36 he's decent (2 steals and 1.4 blocks) but nothing mind-blowing. There are tons of per-36 and per-40 minute all-stars. Take James Johnson for example.

Plus he can hit any shot? suuure, that's why he shot 37.8% FG from the last two seasons

2. the thing is with Iggy, he doesn't even qualify for a FG% metric. Lots of guys can up their efficiecny if they only make 3 shots a game. His efficiency was nothing astounding.

Plus, Iggy's True Shooting % was 89th in the league..right ahead of CJ Miles and behind Hollis Thompson.

You are overselling hard. I could go on but it'd be pointless.