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  • jpshua15
    Pro
    • Jul 2012
    • 704

    #151
    Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

    Originally posted by TUSS11
    Hey Leftos, just wondering if you can answer these, please.
    I second this, always wanted to see sixth men integrated
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    • Leftos
      NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
      • Oct 2010
      • 1255

      #152
      Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

      Originally posted by TUSS11
      Hey Leftos, just wondering if you can answer these, please.
      On the Ginobili thing, I'm going to be honest with you guys. It's really hard to model something like that in a generic enough manner (given the very small sample size of this in the league) so that it works for any given situation and doesn't apply to situations that it shouldn't. Essentially, either it would be a complete hack, or it would be something that would need to figure out which players are the Ginobilis of the league playing for the Popovichs of the league and adjust the rotation accordingly, but have the players start under a different coach, etc.

      Some ideas have already come up for how to finally handle this moving forward and discern those players and coaches, but I can't promise anything for 2K15.

      I really wish I could give you something better, but this is the situation and I'd rather be honest. I'm all open to ideas and suggestions, but remember, they need to represent something that can work in a generic manner, with any roster.

      As for generated players, we have improved various aspects of the generation, and if you still see too many accessories, let me know. As to animations, why are you hating on someone trying to imitate a legendary jump shot? :P
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      • Taer
        MVP
        • Sep 2011
        • 1432

        #153
        Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

        Originally posted by Leftos
        ... I really wish I could give you something better, but this is the situation and I'd rather be honest. I'm all open to ideas and suggestions, but remember, they need to represent something that can work in a generic manner, with any roster.
        I may not understand something because I am an outsider but there could be two different approaches taken to model the Spurs rotational situation better. Both require the creation of internal ai-only scripts/mechanics and flags to be used within the rotational and strategy systems.

        The first thing I'd like to suggest is to create flags that denote "key" players for the ai to use in those situations that warrant it. This way, key situations may be custom-defined for each franchise and these type of players can be used by the ai in more "realistic" situations needed.

        Edit: An example of this type of flag could be: "Aging Star" where relating to the preference of playing veterans off the bench, any ai coach would see this player as a "key" type of player to come off the bench in preference to "rookies" whom this particular coach would like to leave on the bench in any situation other than "garbage time".

        In this way two catagories of players could be created generically and their roles would be simular across the league and those franchises utilizing particular strategies would value these types more than others.

        The second thing I'd like to suggest is to perhaps define "coaching philosophies" specifically focusing on issues related to those "keys" listed above. Generic categories can include "time distribution" and "reliance on preferred bench depth" I see some of this year being done (as you've shared with us already) but I don't see this concept being applied to the "evolving cutting-edge theory" that different coaching regimes are using to try to change the game outside of general norms.

        An extreme example would be Kidd trying to take a 6'11" PF player and turning him into a PG. This would be something unique to the Bucks this year but other specifics could include the now more accepted and standard small-ball approach as an easily recalled example.
        Last edited by Taer; 09-23-2014, 12:28 AM.

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        • UravenzownU
          Rookie
          • Apr 2011
          • 644

          #154
          Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

          Originally posted by jfsolo
          This is actually a great suggestion. One of things that gives the User such a huge advantage over the CPU is that User can keep undisciplined players from making so many poor decisions, and therefore make them so much more effective than they are in real life.

          Exactly, I've been hoping more people would notice this, its why the Rudy Gay's JR's,Westbrooks's, Javale's, Gerald Green's of the world are unstoppable on 2k, since the user is controlling them the user eliminates all the bad decisions and bonehead moves these players thus making all these players who have all the talent in the world (but can't make it in real life) superstars in 2k
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          • CookNBA03
            Pro
            • Jul 2011
            • 677

            #155
            Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

            Originally posted by Leftos
            On the Ginobili thing, I'm going to be honest with you guys. It's really hard to model something like that in a generic enough manner (given the very small sample size of this in the league) so that it works for any given situation and doesn't apply to situations that it shouldn't. Essentially, either it would be a complete hack, or it would be something that would need to figure out which players are the Ginobilis of the league playing for the Popovichs of the league and adjust the rotation accordingly, but have the players start under a different coach, etc.

            Some ideas have already come up for how to finally handle this moving forward and discern those players and coaches, but I can't promise anything for 2K15.

            I really wish I could give you something better, but this is the situation and I'd rather be honest. I'm all open to ideas and suggestions, but remember, they need to represent something that can work in a generic manner, with any roster.

            As for generated players, we have improved various aspects of the generation, and if you still see too many accessories, let me know. As to animations, why are you hating on someone trying to imitate a legendary jump shot? :P
            Leftos, I wanted to ask about free agency in MyLeague/MyGM. Will we see teams clear cap space to chase stars/superstars(Houston)? When will we start seeing players recruiting for the team and will twitter ever play a role in a franchise mode? I could see social media playing a role in MyGM. About the draft pick protection, I don't want you to feel like I was disrespecting you guys in any way but one of the devs(don't remember who) said they did their best to predict each team's season and assign the draft picks, that "didn't believe in conditional picks" weren't my words but one of the devs.

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            • kongemeier
              Lurking
              • Mar 2005
              • 1144

              #156
              Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

              I must say that after finally getting through the entire interview I'm absolutely dying to get my hands on this game and get deep into MyGM/MyLeague!

              As a gamer who's getting closer and closer to 40 there are big gaps between games I'm REALLY looking forward to. I think this is getting pretty close to the mode(s) I always wanted. THANK YOU LEFTOS & CREW!!!!

              Actually the only feature missing from my dream mode would be the option to start as an expansion team. Sure, I have no idea how the NBA could be 31 teams, but I'm sure the creative people at 2K could draw something up.

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              • kmoser
                MVP
                • Jul 2012
                • 1398

                #157
                Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                Does the CPU ever play zone defense? 2k15 will be my first next gen video game but I can't remember ever having to face a zone defense in last gen.

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                • oldfruit
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 43

                  #158
                  Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                  Since you asked for ideas, I will toss in my one cent (I know less than nothing about the creation of software like this, so it's not worth a full two cents).

                  In my mind, there are plenty of complexities to this but you'd be darn close if you could just have coaches with heavy bench use (the slider) default to put players with Spark Plug or Microwave (not an expert in the mechanics, so I don't know which is more applicable) in as high usage sixth men.

                  Either way, it's actually really refreshing to have you explain your difficulty solving it. Rather than making you look bad, it attend you tons of brownie points (at least in my book).

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
                    Once in a Lifetime Memory
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 17294

                    #159
                    Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                    Originally posted by oldfruit
                    Since you asked for ideas, I will toss in my one cent (I know less than nothing about the creation of software like this, so it's not worth a full two cents).

                    In my mind, there are plenty of complexities to this but you'd be darn close if you could just have coaches with heavy bench use (the slider) default to put players with Spark Plug or Microwave (not an expert in the mechanics, so I don't know which is more applicable) in as high usage sixth men.

                    Either way, it's actually really refreshing to have you explain your difficulty solving it. Rather than making you look bad, it attend you tons of brownie points (at least in my book).
                    Yeah, this is along the lines of what I was thinking. If each coach looked for certain types of players at each position, maybe some coaches like Pop would look for "Spark Plug" for a 6th man, or an aging spark plug or something.

                    This could expand to other roles too. For example, one coach might look for a Stretch 4 to play PF but another team might look for a Low Post Scorer to play the PF position. That way, a team like the Bucks would target guys like Ilyasova and Jabari Parker to play PF for them, while a team like the Grizzlies would target a PF like Randolph, and then if their respective coaches leaves for another team, they'd bring their unique philosophy with them and you'd see teams change their identity over time.

                    I imagine this would be pretty complex to add to the game, but I don't really have experience in programming video games.
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                    • TMagic
                      G.O.A.T.
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 7550

                      #160
                      New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE...

                      Originally posted by jfsolo
                      No, I do that too. I will take 6 or 7 FU shots with Kobe a game, because I know it's the right(wrong) thing to do, it's in his DNA. I would imagine that a lot of us play that way, it adds such an interesting psychological and emotional component to the game. You're Role-Playing in a sports game.

                      Seriously.

                      I will get the ball to Westbrook on an inbound, dribble up the court, and take an ill advised three. Not one pass being made. Not a single thought about getting the ball to KD. Brick.

                      Then I take it a step further and will legit get mad at Westbrook in the process...

                      "OMG...***ssell....Why?"

                      Lol


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                      • The Kid 24
                        It's Show Time!
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 14762

                        #161
                        Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                        Leftos... Are the ASG events in the game?

                        Like are we able to play 3 Point & Dunk Contest and Skills Challenge in MyLeague or MyGM?
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                        • Sundown
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3270

                          #162
                          Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE...

                          Originally posted by TMagic
                          Seriously.

                          I will get the ball to Westbrook on an inbound, dribble up the court, and take an ill advised three. Not one pass being made. Not a single thought about getting the ball to KD. Brick.

                          Then I take it a step further and will legit get mad at Westbrook in the process...

                          "OMG...***ssell....Why?"

                          Lol


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                          I also did this with Jordan Crawford and Bazemore last year. Have ball, will chuck. Also would never pass out of the post with Jermain O'Neal. Terrible iso position? Bad jumper or worse post hook? JO got this.

                          And does anyone else drive with Klay Thompson half hoping he'll miss a Klayup and nod approvingly when he does?

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                          • dpower15
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1029

                            #163
                            Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                            Tried quickly searching the forums and didn't seem to have any luck. Is there any word on if 3 team trades will be available in MyGM and/or MyLeague?


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                            • kmoser
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1398

                              #164
                              Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                              Originally posted by dpower15
                              Tried quickly searching the forums and didn't seem to have any luck. Is there any word on if 3 team trades will be available in MyGM and/or MyLeague?


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                              No they are not. I remember someone confirming this a few pages back.

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                              • insideoutside15
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 287

                                #165
                                Re: New NBA 2K15 Podcast Features Leftos, Over Two Hours of New MyGM and MyLEAGUE Inf

                                At this point I think my only concern is whether or not the generated rookies will have terrible tattoos and if so can I remove them. In 2k14 I once passed on a future all star caliber player because he was a dopey looking white guy with a random old english letter tattooed on his neck.

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