No NBA 2K15 Demo Confirmed

[lvnba]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

For me the only issue is with them not confirming this kind of things. It would be an easy "yup, there is no demo this year" and this conversation would be over. And a lot of other conversations.

I do not understand this level of secrecy or lack of transparency (even more with the surreal and fantastic level of transparency they have in another topics as devs are constantly sharing their voices here).

[luda06]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

I say that, because they haven't really "overhauled" the gameplay which is very solid. If it ain't broke, you don't fix it.

That's also not to say that they can't always improve on what they have already.

Alright bro. I think your assessment is fine. I'd rather you speak for yourself though.

[ThreeKing]

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Not money...time. You dont want the demo to misrepresent the final version of the game and in order to do that you would have to wait until later in production to produce the demo. That takes away time that could be used to focus on things that will be in the retail version.



There is a reason why companies are moving away from demos. Games like NBA 2k and Madden sell themselves because of exclusivity and track record. There arent a ton of people who need a demo to convince them to buy the game. They know by now if they like 2k Basketball or Madden football.



So why release a demo that 1) wont represent the final product and 2) isnt likely to convince a ton of people to buy the game. Releasing a bad demo can be detrimental to a good game (see EA UFC) and its rare that even a good demo convinces people to buy a game thats already a mainstay.

I totally agree with what you're saying, but why does FIFA continue to push out a demo then?

[luda06]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

For me the only issue is with them not confirming this kind of things. It would be an easy "yup, there is no demo this year" and this conversation would be over. And a lot of other conversations.

I do not understand this level of secrecy or lack of transparency (even more with the surreal and fantastic level of transparency they have in another topics as devs are constantly sharing their voices here).

No competition, no need to do anything, but sit on top a pile of money.

[aholbert32]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

I keep saying that because there haven't been any officially released videos, making it really hard to come up with conclusions about the actual gameplay since they always seem to be called "older builds" by 2k staff.

Not releasing gameplay videos and not releasing a demo either are two behaviors that show a lack of confidence, at least when it comes to selling their improved gameplay.

Not really. Lets play a game. Question: What do you think is the best/most realistic version of 2k? I bet you within 30 minutes I can find 10 posts bashing/picking apart early gameplay videos of that game.

My point is that no one has ever shown me evidence that releasing early gameplay videos or a demo directly correlates with an increase in sales and thats all 2k cares about. Its not lack of confidence...its why do something that isnt likely to increase sales. Shoot, last year's game sold well without a ton of early videos and no demo.

[aholbert32]

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I totally agree with what you're saying, but why does FIFA continue to push out a demo then?

Legit competition with PES and many dont consider FIFA the best soccer game when it comes to gameplay. The right demo can convince someone
that their gameplay has changed.

Thats why Live should release a demo because they are trying to convince ppl to buy its game instead of 2k.

[The 24th Letter]

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Not really. Lets play a game. Question: What do you think is the best/most realistic version of 2k? I bet you within 30 minutes I can find 10 posts bashing/picking apart early gameplay videos of that game..

Bingo on this point. Take most peoples favorite, 2k11.

Remember the uproar because Momentous was able to make a high light reel with Steve Blake in 2k11's demo?

It's so funny reading all the threads around that time...

[The 24th Letter]

No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

As far as the demo though, I am disappointed...I definitely wanted one...I hope this isn't the trend for these next gen releases.

[threattonature]

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Not really. Lets play a game. Question: What do you think is the best/most realistic version of 2k? I bet you within 30 minutes I can find 10 posts bashing/picking apart early gameplay videos of that game.

My point is that no one has ever shown me evidence that releasing early gameplay videos or a demo directly correlates with an increase in sales and thats all 2k cares about. Its not lack of confidence...its why do something that isnt likely to increase sales. Shoot, last year's game sold well without a ton of early videos and no demo.

Giving out a free sample of your game can get people to try that game that may never have tried it. Especially people with PS4s. I know there have been a few games I bought just on playing a demo, loving it, and picking it up. People don't want to pay to try out a product they aren't necessarily fans of. But if it's free then some may be willing to give it a try out of boredom or to see what the hype is about and get hooked.

[aholbert32]

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Bingo on this point. Take most peoples favorite, 2k11.

Remember the uproar because Momentous was able to make a high light reel with Steve Blake in 2k11's demo?

It's so funny reading all the threads around that time...

We've been around here too long, 24th. It doesnt matter what game it is....OSers will pick it apart. Most casual fans dont care about gameplay vids. They get excited enough for sizzle trailers. Gameplay vids are for hardcore fans like the ones on OS.

Those are the same fans that pick apart the video and are likely to create posts that could discourage someone from buying the game. I'm sure companies like EA and 2k see this and say "Why do we continue to do this. Why are we providing content that people will use to discourage others from buying the game?"

[supermati]

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Not really. Lets play a game. Question: What do you think is the best/most realistic version of 2k? I bet you within 30 minutes I can find 10 posts bashing/picking apart early gameplay videos of that game.

My point is that no one has ever shown me evidence that releasing early gameplay videos or a demo directly correlates with an increase in sales and thats all 2k cares about. Its not lack of confidence...its why do something that isnt likely to increase sales. Shoot, last year's game sold well without a ton of early videos and no demo.

I never disagreed or referenced that notion, every game will always get nitpicked. That shouldn't mean however, that we don't get a legit chance to either see the game in action in a proper manner or even try it before hand.

I don't agree that a demo won't help them improve their sales. Loyal fans will buy the game regardless. But there's also an audience that will grow in consideration if they get the chance to either view or try the new and improved gameplay.

[countryboy]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

I keep saying that because there haven't been any officially released videos, making it really hard to come up with conclusions about the actual gameplay since they always seem to be called "older builds" by 2k staff.

The demo would be an older build as well. Anything that is put out prior to when the dev team is finished tuning gameplay, is an older build.

Not releasing gameplay videos and not releasing a demo either are two behaviors that show a lack of confidence, at least when it comes to selling their improved gameplay.

But yet, there are gameplay videos....

[supermati]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

The demo would be an older build as well. Anything that is put out prior to when the dev team is finished tuning gameplay, is an older build.



But yet, there are gameplay videos....

No official videos with a current build have been released yet.

[kehlis]

Re: No NBA 2K15 Demo This Week, Might Not See One

Giving out a free sample of your game can get people to try that game that may never have tried it. Especially people with PS4s. I know there have been a few games I bought just on playing a demo, loving it, and picking it up. People don't want to pay to try out a product they aren't necessarily fans of. But if it's free then some may be willing to give it a try out of boredom or to see what the hype is about and get hooked.

Conversely, someone who's on the fence may try it and decide not to buy it based on the demo.

In the current state of video games and not having to leave your couch to buy a game there are a ton of impulse buyers. May as well have them buy the game on an impulse rather than download the demo as an impulse.

[aholbert32]

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Giving out a free sample of your game can get people to try that game that may never have tried it. Especially people with PS4s. I know there have been a few games I bought just on playing a demo, loving it, and picking it up. People don't want to pay to try out a product they aren't necessarily fans of. But if it's free then some may be willing to give it a try out of boredom or to see what the hype is about and get hooked.

What basketball fan hasnt played 2k14? Even if they havent played the 2k series on next gen, I promise they've played it on last gen. If they are unsure about buying it they can rent it, read impressions and buy it, or wait until a price drop and buy it.

I dont necessarily buy that there is a big pool of non-basketball fans waiting to buy a basketball game. For example, I'm not a big fan of hockey. I played the NHL 15 demo and EA Access game and liked it alot (even though most of OS hated it). Did I buy NHL 15 after enjoying the demo? No, because I'm not that big a fan of hockey.