NBA 2K15 Player Ratings Revealed For the 76th Overall Rated Player Through 100

[8KB24]

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so his minutes per game determines? if he is your best shooter he will be on the floor regardless. He isnt a consistently great defender offball or onball, he isnt a rebounder, above average athletic ability etc etc. Aside from shooting what else warrants a 78?

He is slightly below average rebounder, smart passer, VERY intelligent player on both ends of the court, great off ball defender and slightly below average on ball defender because of his athleticism.

[bpietro]

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here's a great text from Zach Lowe about Korver. may enlighten a bit on how he's important and underrated.

http://grantland.com/features/kyle-korver-nba-atlanta-hawks/

[LoSoisNiCEx414]

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Larry Sanders was hurt last year. Don't get it twisted he's one of the best defensive big in the nba. Numbers don't lie.

[Sundown]

NBA 2K15 Player Ratings Revealed For the 76th Overall Rated Player Through 100

When you have morons trying to tell you Kyle Korver isnt good, they really deem themselves irrelevant when we talk about ratings lol. Any team on the league would gladly take Korver on their team. Possibly the best 3pt spot up guy in the league, eats glass, and can defend. NEVER stops moving on the perimeter. If he was on the Spurs, they'd never lose haha

I'm simultaneously looking forward to guys like Korver being properly rated on their elite skills, AND without being overrated with the separation of moving vs. spot up threes.

Before we got everyone with a high 3 point rating shooting off curls or the dribble like they were Ray Allen or Steph Curry.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Yeah hopefully no more successful euro steps with Mike Dunleavy through traffic

[2_headedmonster]

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Most attributes are looked at using 3 year stats with a strong emphasis on the most recent year.

i get the thinking there, but i think unless a player is skilled but injury plagued, the stats should be a direct representation of last year. If thats the basis of annual ratings going forward, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of in-season updates?

[bedwardsroy19]

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i get the thinking there, but i think unless a player is skilled but injury plagued, the stats should be a direct representation of last year. If thats the basis of annual ratings going forward, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of in-season updates?

Every player quoted in the post I responded to is extremely skilled but injury plagued. I'm talking about specifically when making ratings for a new year. Once the season starts, attributes will be modified frequently to represent how players are playing

[kurt2134]

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Can't complain about Blazer ratings so far. Curious to see what LA and Lillard are rated.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Whoa....Roy Hibbert and David West made the cut. Shame the Pacers no longer have Stephenson.

[stillfeelme]

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Every player quoted in the post I responded to is extremely skilled but injury plagued. I'm talking about specifically when making ratings for a new year. Once the season starts, attributes will be modified frequently to represent how players are playing

Can you give any more details? Like 80% of the ratings from last year 15% year two years ago and 5% from 3 years ago? I do agree with using multiple years when players are injured though. What about tendencies does that follow the same logic? I guess I see what you are trying to keep guys that had record years from really receiving all the benefit of that when they haven't shown that for multiple seasons when starting an MyLeague. Can't say I fully agree with that though.

[ojandpizza]

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How can we say who's to low without looking at the individual ratings yet ?

True, but at the same time Batum IMO is at least a few steps ahead of the other guys on that list. He might be reflected accurately in the game because of his individual ratings but he's not going to be represented as a higher value than those guys in GM.. Which is why overall does matter to an extent.

I guess I'm the only person here who's fine with the Teague rating.. He's always been a decent scorer but he lacks the vision and overall point guard skills to have a high rating at the PG position. He's a very inconsistent shooter with poor percentages, average defender, doesn't have the off the chart athleticism, he just really doesn't have any area of his game that would bolster his overall rating IMO.. Yes he can go out and get you 16-18 points, but so can most of the leagues starters when they take 13-15 shots..

Considering there aren't hardly any players who will reach the 90's, we will have lots of very good guards in the 80's range.. Westbrook, Rose, Kyrie, Curry, Lawson, Wall, Conley, Etc.. Considering Teague is in the high 70's and not too far behind those guys I'd say it's fairly accurate.


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[RocketTMac1]

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Hendo 78 and MKG 77. That hustle rating must be something nasty man.

[Real2KInsider]

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The rating on Korver is great, he's consistently been underrated under the old formula .

My Hawks ratings under the old formula (2014 stats, done on 360)
87 - Al Horford
84 - Jeff Teague (rates 82 on PS4, unsure why some inconsistencies exist)
81 - Paul Millsap
74 - DeMarre Carroll
74 - Mike Scott
74 Shelvin Mack
73 - Elton Brand
73 - Kent Bazemore
73 - Kyle Korver (Rates 72 @ SG)
71 - Adreian Payne
69 - John Jenkins
68 - Thabo Sefolosha
67 - Dennis Schroder
64 - Pero Antic

Korver and Sefolosha are likely starters yet they rate lower than every other wing on the team.

Thabo sandwiching between two 1st round picks who haven't established themselves was particularly troubling. His flaws (Handle, OffAwr, SOD, etc) shouldn't be canceling out his strengths (defense) as he's started for a contender a number of years for a reason. The system was not reflecting his true value and that has since been rectified (Thabo rates 74 in 2K15).

Korver rating equal to Bazemore simply doesn't pass the eye test. Ball handling is way too important to SG under the old formula despite 3pt shooting and on-ball defense being significantly more important to the position.

At the higher end of the spectrum of that system we see A regressing Dwyane Wade (90) isn't in the same ballpark vs "Three & D" players like Danny Green (73). It was important to get proper value for the specialists, because the Iso era of SGs inspired by Michael Jordan has come and gone. It's a PGs league now, which means the vast majority of SG are going to be required to be good at playing off-ball.

The best example of this is Jordan Crawford (79), who would start over Klay Thompson (78) when rated accurately. There is no questioning that this is wrong. Ironically, Crawford is actually much more effective at PG where he RATED LOWER (75). He is a much better on-ball player than on-ball player, which is why he thrived w/ the Celtics, and struggled with the Warriors, despite playing his "natural" position. He serves as a perfect example

Under the new system, Klay rates 82 (+4), equal to combo guard Monta Ellis. This previously would have been impossible due to Monta's Handle/Athletic advantages, despite his erratic jump shot.

(I highlight Antic because "stretch 4/5 players are well-known to get the shaft in the old formula, something else that was fixed in 2K15).

[stillfeelme]

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I want to say this I really like that a defensively specialist can be ranked the same as a offensive specialist. It makes things much more interesting. I would say looking at the overall has taken on a whole new meaning and you really need to know the detailed ratings even more so before complaining as everyone appears to be closely rated even if they are one dimensional.

Teague: I put him in the category of scoring point guard. Very fast can get into the paint on pick and rolls and finish but as a shooter he is below average mid range and below average 3pt% but is streaky at times. As a defender nothing special can pass I would say above average passer . He doesn't rebound that much 2.6reb that is bad

[Real2KInsider]

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Hendo 78 and MKG 77. That hustle rating must be something nasty man.

And as a counter-point to what I'm talking about, some specialists will get overvalued. In the case of MKG (who I had at 68 last year, -10) his handle, rebound, defensive ratings, and even his mid-range shot are all probably a bit overrated by 2K.

A quick stop at Synergy....

On-Ball Offense (13%)
5% Iso 0.88
5% Post 0.58
3% PnR 0.71

MKG can't create his own shot beyond a straight line drive when his opponent mistakenly overplays.

Off-Ball Offense (33%)
25% Spot 0.58 (31 FG%, 1-10 3pt)
4% Handoff 1.09
2% Screen 0.89
2% Roll 0.75

MKG is basically worthless off-ball, he has the shooting ability of Shaq. This wouldn't be so big a deal if he could create his own shot, but since he can't he gets 3x as many off-ball possessions.

Athleticsm (51%)
22% Transition 1.07
19% Cut 1.16
10% OffReb 1.13

MKG thrives here, but it doesn't make up for him being utterly abysmal in the halfcourt.

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Overall MKG is basically a bigger Tony Allen. There is a caveat though.

Tony Allen is All-Defense 1st-Team caliber

MKG IS NOT.

At least, not yet. He turns 21 in three days. This is surely just a case of 2K buffing his attributes (and thus OVR rating) to ensure he continues to start.