No Draft in MyCareer-- But we were SO close.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: No Draft in MyCareer-- But we were SO close.

Honestly I think the main reason for the story switch is to make casuals spend more money on VC to get their superstar 99 OVR player on Day 1...forcing your MyPlayer to go undrafted (which in turn will probably have you start out with an OVR and stats in the 50's or 60's rather than the 70's or 80's of the past couple years) means that you'll have to spend more time grinding to get your player up to a good level, so those that are impatient will have to throw more money to get VC to increase their attributes.

2k may be saying these things about giving a "brand new, never done before" change to story mode...but it's pretty obvious that a big reason for the change is to force everyone to start with a player with decreased attributes to try and increase their earnings from those players who buy VC rather than grind.

Or maybe, just MAYBE they want to deliver a experience that not the same FOUR years in a row. Just a thought. A guess maybe. Theory. Whatever you want to call it.

BTW, if your player starts out with higher attributes, what will you say then? They've raised the baseline player every year since the first.

[Boilerbuzz]

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It's not that I don't find the new additions interesting, but in my mind there's no way a MyCareer without a draft can be acceptable. MyCareer shouldn't be a "story of the year" feature. It should approach a dynamic, open world simulation where we choose our path or our performance does-- and where choices aren't yet implemented, should take the most typical and defining one of most NBA players.

At the moment, it IS a story of the year mode. And we have to accept that. I don't like it, but that's how it is. It's a reason I haven't it played it I the last couple of years. The list is LONG, but I'm not going to beat that into the ground. The point is that this makes is fresher, in my opinion. More intriguing and a challenge.

Playing overseas and in Euro League would be interesting options, but I sure wouldn't want that to be a forced career path of the year either.

I'm sure that would not be easy to allow so many paths. I would love it though.

I'm a little surprised you're blasé about the draft's inclusion because of a few less than ideal audio clips.

Not at all, my friend. I am tired of the cycle. And the way it was done last year was just so contrived. Can't go first because Ellis has to go before you. Can't go in the second or undrafted because your 12 year old would cry. Total bs.

There is no way a draft can be "done enough" in a mode about NBA careers just as there's no way the "winning a championship thing" can be done enough in MyLeague or MyGM. It's an integral part of the experience. It's being a part of NBA history and legacy.

Sure it can. Hundreds of good players go undrafted every year. Why not walk in THEIR shoes for a year?

You're my guy, Sundown. I know you don't argue just to argue or beat your chest about a point. This is one point we can agree to disagree on, my friend.

[Boilerbuzz]

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See here's the thing. That version was the best because it HAD the Draft. It DIDN'T force you down one path, and getting drafted was no guarantee of making the squad. You proved your mettle in the combine and summer league.

It was the best implementation because it was the most authentic, rewarding, comprehensive, and flexible of implementations. All it needed was for an option to set the number of pre-NBA games played for those that didn't want to go through all of it.

Getting rid of the Draft after getting rid of the Summer League, D-League, and Combine is diametrically opposed to the things you highlighted. And in fact, losing some of the above items (progressively less concern about NBA authenticity in the starting game) is consistent with the direction that ultimately has us losing the draft itself.

COMPLETELY agree and if we didn't have kids crying about it being too hard/slow to improve - you know, more realistic - it would have continued to build off of that model. Just go back to the posts from that first year. There was quite a bit of crying about the rate of progression. Too many people wanted to be the superstar immediately. I'm still pissed VC caved. But you know what the Isley Brothers said: "Got to give the people! Give the people what they want!" Right business decision. Wrong creative decision.

[xerxes313]

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Not at all, my friend. I am tired of the cycle. And the way it was done last year was just so contrived. Can't go first because Ellis has to go before you. Can't go in the second or undrafted because your 12 year old would cry. Total bs.

I got drafted before Ellis. At least I believe I did.

[MarvellousOne]

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The game should have multiple paths in MyCareer, ai want a more realistic aspect of MyCareer, ta king out the option to be drafted is not realistic to me. I really liked how My Player when it first came out had the draft combine with 5 games to raise draft stock before the draft, then summer league and training camp...this is the path most rookies in the league take, and if you wasn't good you had to go through the dleague.

The problem was the game never made it matter how you played in the old MyCareer/My Player you could easily be a one man show, now if they added something like this coaching 101 to the game, where playing within the coaches scheme matters now. If that was implemented in previous years the tune would be much different about the mode I think

[The 24th Letter]

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I spent most of the draft button mashing hoping that somehow I could get it to speed up to when I was picked....not going to miss it...

[MarvellousOne]

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I spent most of the draft button mashing hoping that somehow I could get it to speed up to when I was picked....not going to miss it...

Even as someone who liked the draft aspect I can agree. I found myself doing the same, but a simple option to skip to pick would have worked wonders

[Sundown]

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At the moment, it IS a story of the year mode. And we have to accept that. I don't like it, but that's how it is. It's a reason I haven't it played it I the last couple of years. The list is LONG, but I'm not going to beat that into the ground. The point is that this makes is fresher, in my opinion. More intriguing and a challenge.



I'm sure that would not be easy to allow so many paths. I would love it though.



Not at all, my friend. I am tired of the cycle. And the way it was done last year was just so contrived. Can't go first because Ellis has to go before you. Can't go in the second or undrafted because your 12 year old would cry. Total bs.



Sure it can. Hundreds of good players go undrafted every year. Why not walk in THEIR shoes for a year?

You're my guy, Sundown. I know you don't argue just to argue or beat your chest about a point. This is one point we can agree to disagree on, my friend.

Well sounds like we're agreed in more principles than not. You're just more interested in the diversion from the norm whereas I'm unwilling to accept removal of the parts that they made some progress in (draft interviews were great and a huge step in the right direction).

I think the things we both dislike are what's taking us in this direction in the first place. Hopefully it'll result in a roundabout way back to a more full featured and dynamic mode. But I half expect something else basic and NBA to be removed before it does.

And let's be honest, a vast, vast majority of those hundreds of players aren't very good. Not for the NBA. Certainly a astronomical percentage of them don't have a noteworthy career at all. Again going undrafted should have been an option, not the only path. The canned story just isn't worth it.

[SeattleSeahavvks]

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dear god this isn't intro to English get on with it already

[JasonMartin]

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So for me all this change does is offer me options on what team to play on from day one instead of waiting years for my contract to expire. I suppose the best compromise would of been to offer both options, one where you attempt to get drafted and one where you choose to go into free agency, but I'm excited for this change in direction regardless.

Don't forget 2K also removed the 2nd round. If you had that option and got selected in the 2nd round and you play really bad for those 2 years that's the end of your deal. Then if you get a shot to prove yourself again during training camp, sign a 1 year deal with a team that believes in you, well then you can break out as a 20 ppg - 6 apg player and sign your big deal. Only takes 3 years then.

That's another possibility, but they took it out. They forced you to stay in the 1st round and then you are tied to the 2 year standard deal with another 2 year player options. That sucks of course.

[JasonMartin]

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Then don't buy the game.

"Problem" solved.

What a response... There is no other basketball game than 2K, EA isn't there yet. So we shouldn't play at all? 2K has gone from SIM to an arcade type of game focused on young teenagers. This should be a game everyone from all ages can enjoy, like FIFA.

Some of you are either really young or really into these fake hyped up interactions with Pharell, customized soundtracks and other lame features.

[The 24th Letter]

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I'm not young, and i've enjoyed every iteration of 2k so far to some degree..as have many others my age.

What i'm starting to think though, is that maybe i'm not "sim", at least this recent definition of it.

because that word has devolved into some elitist take on basketball gaming that takes themselves way too seriously.

[ImaFreeThinker]

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What a response... There is no other basketball game than 2K, EA isn't there yet. So we shouldn't play at all? 2K has gone from SIM to an arcade type of game focused on young teenagers. This should be a game everyone from all ages can enjoy, like FIFA.

Some of you are either really young or really into these fake hyped up interactions with Pharell, customized soundtracks and other lame features.

Agreed. Nobody over 22 is hyped about the Pherrell interactions etc. It's all C-grade role play off court fluff.

[JasonMartin]

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I'm not young, and i've enjoyed every iteration of 2k so far to some degree..as have many others my age.

What i'm starting to think though, is that maybe i'm not "sim", at least this recent definition of it.

because that word has devolved into some elitist take on basketball gaming that takes themselves way too seriously.

It's not something etilist, it's the only way to show I rather have a realistic game than some arcade controlled, pre-determined game with a lot of useless gimmicks and features added to hype a certain crowd up.

What 2K did with 2K11 was perfect. If only they could have followed that path. Made it more detailed, improved the defense and offense and added the things that needed to be added (which have been discussed over here the past few years).

They were on the right way but they took an exit somewhere and got completely lost.

[Bornindamecca]

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I'm not young, and i've enjoyed every iteration of 2k so far to some degree..as have many others my age.

What i'm starting to think though, is that maybe i'm not "sim", at least this recent definition of it.

because that word has devolved into some elitist take on basketball gaming that takes themselves way too seriously.

Sim is just having the fundamentals of the video game represent the fundamentals of the real life game. Simulation, not replication. Basketball is fun, so Sim should be fun. It's not that complicated. Once you make any decision different from real life, regardless of game mode, you're no longer replicating reality. However, you can still be on a feasible, alternate path of reality if the fundamentals of the video game world Simulate the fundamentals of basketball.

That's why trade logic needs to be good in MyLeague/MyCareer etc. So your video game experience can live up to the "what if" of your basketball fantasies. We can't let the back and forth of a forum let us forget these principles.