The Real Problem with "Got Next"

[Big FN Deal]

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That's where I'm at. I kind of like some of the advantages of the current system when it comes to The Park (we'll see about Jordan Rec Center games where the waits will most likely be longer), but they need to add something for us to be able to do while we wait. Watching strangers play in a game we don't care about makes the wait that much worse. Let us shoot around, practice dribble moves against our teammates, play 21 ... something.

I agree having other things to do besides spectating would be a good option but it also can diminish the incentive for waiting. What I mean is, if the main premise of the mode is to create a certain environment, in this case people that are willing to watch games, wait for next and try to hold the court, then anything that detracts from that, can diminish the mode.

Gotta speak for yourself here man. As a man that grew up around real Chicago parks, soaking in other games is as much of the draw as playing.




Then don't go in the Park. Not being glib. It's just the simple truth. If you guys just want to go play quick online games immediately, you don't want this mode.

I definitely feel this and to continue my point from above, I think the issues with this mode, require the addition of another "rec" or court type in a patch or NBA2k16, not removing or modifying this one.

I'm all for anyone voicing their issues and trying to lobby for something they find enjoyable but some are coming across like just because they don't like the mode, it has no merit. I like what I'm hearing about "got next" and it will potentially be my main way of enjoying NBA2k15 because I think it will attract the type of gamers and games a enjoy playing.

[Big FN Deal]

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These posts are so dumb. My God.

I don't see what's dumb about it though. What you and some others seem to actually want is a Jordan Rec mode, without the wait, which is fine but that's a different mode, which is fine too. All Boilerbuzz seems to be saying is, then ask for a different mode, not try to run the current one in the ground as if it has no merit, to anyone.

If we wanted to watch people play, we would watch twitch broadcasts.

Lol, maybe I'm being too optimistic but I like the premise of watching from the sideline with my teammates, scouting and possibly gameplanning through voice chat, for whichever team wins. I think that's a realistic element this mode inherently brings, without having to bother with the console broadcast system.

[Boilerbuzz]

The Real Problem with "Got Next"

These posts are so dumb. My God.

Coming from you, I just had to :lmao:

[JYoung28]

The Real Problem with "Got Next"

I don't see what's dumb about it though. What you and some others seem to actually want is a Jordan Rec mode, without the wait, which is fine but that's a different mode, which is fine too. All Boilerbuzz seems to be saying is, then ask for a different mode, not try to run the current one in the ground as if it has no merit, to anyone.

I am talking about the"Oh, since you don't like this, well don't play the mode" attitude.

Most people in here obviously want to play the mode, but do hate that we have to wait 30-50+ mins for a game or however long it takes for the park. People that played Park complained about waiting as well. But to combat it they lower the score to 15. People still do not want to wait.

We wouldn't be so upset if we didn't care. We love playing with our MPs but since we don't like something, we should not play the mode at all? Like ManiacMatt said, that was spot on, if I wanted to watch people play, I'd watch Twitch.

I am sure you had a big issue with the gameplay or a mode you overall like and complained about it, but still played it.

Coming from you, I just had to :lmao:

Yeah, you stay posting things that leave me scratching my head. Wishing it was a block button or something on tapatalk.

[Big FN Deal]

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I am talking about the"Oh, since you don't like this, well don't play the mode" attitude.

Most people in here obviously want to play the mode, but do hate that we have to wait 30-50+ mins for a game or however long it takes for the park. People that played Park complained about waiting as well. But to combat it they lower the score to 15. People still do not want to wait.

We wouldn't be so upset if we didn't care. We love playing with our MPs but since we don't like something, we should not play the mode at all? Like ManiacMatt said, that was spot on, if I wanted to watch people play, I'd watch Twitch.

I am sure you had a big issue with the gameplay or a mode you overall like and complained about it, but still played it.




Yeah, you stay posting things that leave me scratching my head. Wishing it was a block button or something on tapatalk.

Maybe I explained myself poorly so I'll try one more time. "Got next" seems to be an key part of the MyPark mode, so if anyone has an issue with that element, they should be lobbying for a different mode. However, what some have done ITT is basically rant about how "got next"/waiting has no merit, to anyone, which is just not true.

Maybe 2k feels that removing the wait from MyPark diminishes the intent of the mode and if so, I agree. That's why they have other modes in the game that don't have waits. I'm all for options when applicable but in this case, with this mode, it seems those options would undermine the intent of the mode.

[JYoung28]

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Maybe I explained myself poorly so I'll try one more time. "Got next" seems to be an key part of the MyPark mode, so if anyone has an issue with that element, they should be lobbying for a different mode. However, what some have done ITT is basically rant about how "got next"/waiting has no merit, to anyone, which is just not true.



Maybe 2k feels that removing the wait from MyPark diminishes the intent of the mode and if so, I agree. That's why they have other modes in the game that don't have waits. I'm all for options when applicable but in this case, with this mode, it seems those options would undermine the intent of the mode.

I also believe in options and I know sometimes I will want to watch a good game. But it should be optional. If I want to stand around and "get next" into that game I'm watching or start up immediately to a random game, I should be able to. The people that sees for example a team on a winning streak and wants a piece of that team should do the "Got Next" and wait for that game to end. But the people that just want to play anyone, it should just start like it did last gen.

I think most people think it's pretty cool, but who wants to do that all the time. Maybe while I am eating on something or just unwinding will I want to just watch a game. I've started the game up to most likely play.

I don't see why they need to make a totally different mode. Most people want this exact stuff besides having to wait. Me, I would love a new mode, which is Crew instead of the Jordan Rec mode that is basically a watered down version of Crew.

[jaateloauto]

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This is a ridiculous statement. So the laws of time can be ignored. Terrific. FIFA and NHL don't have this kind of mode where you can walk around and see other people playing in realtime.

Why would they? The only benefit to this system is waiting.

Bull****. World PvP is NOT instanced. winter grasp and Tol Barand are NOT instanced. You fail to see my point because you only choose to look at info that support only your narrative.

You talk about picking only info that support your narrative and then completely ignore the fact that WoW also has instanced PvP (and that the comment was on MMOs in general).

Then why not apply the same principle here? If you are ok with not playing, then don't play! Go to another mode. Fire up a team up match! Why are trying to force the Park to be something that it's not? What is so hard to understand about this? The essence of the mode is lost if you break the continuity. If people are ok with disappearing from the actual park they were in, that's one thing. But that breaks the illusion. WOW does this with phasing the world boss raids. That's the ONLY way you reduce waits. But the problem in basketball is that people are VERY selective in who they play with. If a brown shirt phases into your team, do you bail? Now you are just phasing in squads. That COULD work. But since this is their first volley into this style of online play, I doubt it's ready for phasing and all the tools needed to do it.

You can't play against other teams in team-up unless you arrange them with a 3rd party system like MLG. Which defeats the purpose since it means there's going to be more waiting than there would playing a crew/pro clubs mode.

You clearly have no idea what your talking about. The park is a realm. The reason you have to wait is because the court is not open. Plain and simple. How can you play on a court where a game is already in progress? The only way is to team phase to a different park. But the social dynamic of seeing your next opponent, or holding a court for that matter, is lost.

How would the park qualify as a realm? There are several instances of the park going on on the servers at the same time. Nothing about the park has any permanence.

I'm done arguing about this. Not being belligerent when I say, go play another mode. You clearly don't want this one.

Edit: and the attitude in the post above is the mentality that keeps gaming stagnant. Are you for real?

How you can be so condescending is amazing. It's a glorified 3D chat room. There is nothing new about it.

If there was a crew mode, I would play it no question. But 2K thinks this is an acceptable version of it. It's not.

[Mr.Smif]

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Why would they? The only benefit to this system is waiting.

You talk about picking only info that support your narrative and then completely ignore the fact that WoW also has instanced PvP (and that the comment was on MMOs in general).

You can't play against other teams in team-up unless you arrange them with a 3rd party system like MLG. Which defeats the purpose since it means there's going to be more waiting than there would playing a crew/pro clubs mode.


How would the park qualify as a realm? There are several instances of the park going on on the servers at the same time. Nothing about the park has any permanence.

How you can be so condescending is amazing. It's a glorified 3D chat room. There is nothing new about it.

If there was a crew mode, I would play it no question. But 2K thinks this is an acceptable version of it. It's not.

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[xvxcvxc]

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Could it be to make it easyer on the servers ?

[xvxcvxc]

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Could it be to make it easyer on the servers ?

[rvrazorback]

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I do not like waiting for games, but the main thing I'm worrying about is I have 1 friend that plays 2k with me, so if it's just me and him wanting to get into a Jordan Rec game, and we are sitting on got next with 4/5 spots filled waiting for the game to end, will 5 people in a squad just snatch our spots up? What's the point of the got next spots if a squad can come in a que up even though us and 2 other guys have been waiting for 20 minutes?

[TrustedDegree4]

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I see the got next being a big problem in the Jordan Rec Center. People are gonna want to play it 24/7. If 2k could change it to where only 60 people are in a center then it would be a lot better.

40 people playing and 20 people waiting.

Having to wait an hour just to play a game is too long. Most of the problem when 2k15 release is gonna be with the Rec Center. Most people would would rather have matchmaking, me included.

But when it comes to MyPark and playing at the 3 outside courts then it not really a problem. A 8-12 minute wait is not that bad. Just hope none of the problem with you being kicked off your spot is not there.

[TrustedDegree4]

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I do not like waiting for games, but the main thing I'm worrying about is I have 1 friend that plays 2k with me, so if it's just me and him wanting to get into a Jordan Rec game, and we are sitting on got next with 4/5 spots filled waiting for the game to end, will 5 people in a squad just snatch our spots up? What's the point of the got next spots if a squad can come in a que up even though us and 2 other guys have been waiting for 20 minutes?

Well you won't really have to worry about that too much if your both good at the game. The reason why I say that is people are always gonna be looking for people to team up with. So I would recommend y'all both play a lot of MyPark, and ask people if they want to squad up with yall. Also look for people with Mic.

[NDAlum]

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This is the most realistic part of NBA 2K15

I hate waiting at the Y to get my games in...only one court and you have to sign up. You lose you pretty much are done for the day.

Too much real life

I hate it in real life that sucks you guys have to wait in a video game

[szdfhsty]

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Who really thinks that waiting to play is fun? Isn't this covered in game design 100?