After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

[uponablackstar]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I was going to post something about this, but I didn't because I was afraid I'd hear something to the effect of "you just suck." This is definitely a thing, and I'm surprised it hasn't gained more traction yet.

The dropoff in shots falling is insane -- to the point where I even had to fiddle with the difficulty and adjust my shot release just to see if it was something else. There's no reason why an uncontested 16 footer that gets a slightly early rating at A or B should clang the front of the rim.

I'm really, really hoping this isn't some kind of tactic to prevent us from getting too much VC from made baskets.

[gremdog8]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I don't know about that. I just had Russell Westbrook play all 48 minutes, jack up 32 shots, and score 39 to beat me. I limited Durant to 17 points too, I'm convinced fatigue is broken for the CPU on Superstar sim.

Dwight Howard done the same exact thing to me, played all 48 like a beast the entire game on Superstar sim.

[LivingLegend]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I'm really, really hoping this isn't some kind of tactic to prevent us from getting too much VC from made baskets.

I'm convinced that's exactly what it is, at least part of it.

I kid you not, I lowered the difficulty to Rookie and set the time to 12 minutes just to test it and went 21/82. This was after hitting fifteen shots in the first quarter.

This needs to be addressed, especially considering 2K doesn't allow us the option to mess around with the sliders in MyPlayer to compensate.

[Bliitz]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

After playing more, it's definitely frustrating. What also ticks me off is I got my ball handling up to the 70's and now I get picked and I never got picked when I was in the 60's. This is ridiculous.

It has that 2K12 cheese when people would stop on the fast break.

[Kyy]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

This is present every year man. It's funny cause I recall in a stream they tried to dispute it and said "we don't have any comeback code and never have". If that's not the biggest damn lie I don't know what is. I'm with you 100% man. Countless times in my season now I'll hit a streak of jumpers to take a lead on a good team. Then suddenly out of no where my team is incapable of playing defense, my teammates won't contest shots on people right infront of them and of course I miss everything despite perfect releases without being contested.

It's not shot fatigue either... thats a load of crap they gave. You can intentionally leave Steph Curry open from 3pt range and find this out yourself. I guarantee he won't miss more than 1-2 out of like 20 in a quarter if you do it.

[Number999]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

Haven't experienced this personally and I play Superstar in MyLeague, I think the number one thing I notice personally is whenever I get to a 10-12 point lead I start trying less to get better shots, and then when I miss and the CPU gets a 3 it's basically still not over yet. I've had shots that should have gone in and missed a few wide open layups with Wade, but the CPU misses open buckets as well... so eh, I always feel like it's bull**** as to why sports games would try and **** you over like what people claim happens in FIFA/Madden. As if the CPU/company has anything to gain on you by altering your experience.

[LivingLegend]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

This is present every year man. It's funny cause I recall in a stream they tried to dispute it and said "we don't have any comeback code and never have". If that's not the biggest damn lie I don't know what is. I'm with you 100% man. Countless times in my season now I'll hit a streak of jumpers to take a lead on a good team. Then suddenly out of no where my team is incapable of playing defense, my teammates won't contest shots on people right infront of them and of course I miss everything despite perfect releases without being contested.

It's not shot fatigue either... thats a load of crap they gave. You can intentionally leave Steph Curry open from 3pt range and find this out yourself. I guarantee he won't miss more than 1-2 out of like 20 in a quarter if you do it.

This is a little different from "catchup AI" though. This is more of a noticeable lowering of stats. Even with the CPU going into God mode I've never noticed and I'm sure I'm not the only one such a considerable drop in user controlled play regardless of how good the player is/or the player they're controlling stats are.

Which makes this even worse because now they're is two different lines of code that basically says "**** You, you aren't scoring, you're not getting the ball, we're gonna come back from behind down 30 and beat you".

Anyone that wants to contest this is welcome to watch the play suddenly pick back up near the end of the 4th quarter it's like clockwork it happens at the same point every time, and turns off at the same point every time.

Haven't experienced this personally and I play Superstar in MyLeague, I think the number one thing I notice personally is whenever I get to a 10-12 point lead I start trying less to get better shots, and then when I miss and the CPU gets a 3 it's basically still not over yet. I've had shots that should have gone in and missed a few wide open layups with Wade, but the CPU misses open buckets as well... so eh, I always feel like it's bull**** as to why sports games would try and **** you over like what people claim happens in FIFA/Madden. As if the CPU/company has anything to gain on you by altering your experience.

Well, micro transactions don't exactly help the argument that they don't have something to gain by making it harder to get VC.

[PRBoricua]

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I don't get this argument that just because you had an open look, or because you had a good release, or you've made a few shots in the 1st quarter that some how you're expected to make every single shot the rest of the game.

Go in the gym, grab a basketball and hoist up 30 or 40 shots, wide-open, uncontested. Let me know how many you make, and how many you "thought you should've" made. Players miss, that's all there is to it. I realize you think you should make every single open shot you take, or just because you got an A- release that the shot should just fall, but that's now how it goes, you're going to miss.

Stop getting frustrated because the computer isn't letting you cupcake to W's every time you pick up your sticks and play basketball. Yes you're going to lose, yes you're going to miss. The other option is stop playing 2K, they have said over and over again there's no comeback code, nor are your stats being lowered. Get used to it boys, it's not going to change anytime soon.

[LivingLegend]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I don't get this argument that just because you had an open look, or because you had a good release, or you've made a few shots in the 1st quarter that some how you're expected to make every single shot the rest of the game.

Never said that, way to miss the point.

You shouldn't miss A+ Quality shots uncontested 9 times out of 10.

[manu1433]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I don't get this argument that just because you had an open look, or because you had a good release, or you've made a few shots in the 1st quarter that some how you're expected to make every single shot the rest of the game.

Go in the gym, grab a basketball and hoist up 30 or 40 shots, wide-open, uncontested. Let me know how many you make, and how many you "thought you should've" made. Players miss, that's all there is to it. I realize you think you should make every single open shot you take, or just because you got an A- release that the shot should just fall, but that's now how it goes, you're going to miss.

Stop getting frustrated because the computer isn't letting you cupcake to W's every time you pick up your sticks and play basketball. Yes you're going to lose, yes you're going to miss. The other option is stop playing 2K, they have said over and over again there's no comeback code, nor are your stats being lowered. Get used to it boys, it's not going to change anytime soon.

that definitely is not what he is saying...

i do find it funny though.....i could leave ty lawson open every time and he'd go 18-20 on jump shots no problem what so ever

[swac07]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

Never said that, way to miss the point.

You shouldn't miss A+ Quality shots uncontested 9 times out of 10.

Whats your player's shooting ratings?

[Kyy]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

This is a little different from "catchup AI" though. This is more of a noticeable lowering of stats. Even with the CPU going into God mode I've never noticed and I'm sure I'm not the only one such a considerable drop in user controlled play regardless of how good the player is/or the player they're controlling stats are.

Which makes this even worse because now they're is two different lines of code that basically says "**** You, you aren't scoring, you're not getting the ball, we're gonna come back from behind down 30 and beat you".

Anyone that wants to contest this is welcome to watch the play suddenly pick back up near the end of the 4th quarter it's like clockwork it happens at the same point every time, and turns off at the same point every time.

For sure bro. No argument here. I 100% agree with you. I have still to this day never understood the reasoning. It's gotta be the VC like you guys said.

[bkrich83]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

I love these threads.

[LivingLegend]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

Whats your player's shooting ratings?

High 80's for everything.

[ByronHibbsDEL]

Re: After a day, I'm convinced there is a stat lowering mechanic....

That must be just you, the only thing I have trouble with is getting Assists.

Thank god! I thought I was the only one. I swear, I could nail a perfect pass down to the paint. Either the CPU will miss the WIDE OPEN shot, or they'll hold it one millionth of a second too long for it to be considered an assist.

It irritates me so much! Other than that, I LOVE this game. I mean, yeah, it's got it's flaws, but overall, I'm a huge fan!