Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

[Anthony292]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The tuning should be in with the upcoming patch.

Nice that's good news

[redsox4evur]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The tuning should be in with the upcoming patch.

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything. But this is something we all complained about with 2K14, so I am kind of shocked that this wasn't addressed before the game came out. If there more pertinent issues with the game that needed to fixed that is fine.

[darkknightrises]

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I don't know if this is really that big of an issue. I did a few test sims with draft quality at 25 and most of the guys in the second rounds who only in the 50's second round had a lot more misses just like real life. I heard last year that like 20 of the 30 second round picks never even got to play a game in the NBA last year. Even in the late first round I didn't see many guys above like 65-69.

[darkknightrises]

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That's AWESOME to hear - only thing that keeps this game from being amazing for me. Some feedback on the scouting:

Three major issues:

A) CPU drafts stupidly - too much error, it feels like they did not even look at the mocks
Computer drafting should reflect the mock drafts much much more (somebody being picked 5 spots earlier or later should be rare, someone being picked 10 spots up or down, should be very rare - especially when we are looking at the first round).

B) Mock drafts are too accurate
Mocks draft are almost too good now (meaning they rank the players in terms of ratings and potential pretty much perfectly - this is where the busts & sleepers should be reflected - have a 69 rated player projected to be picked #4 once in a while and a 74 projected to be picked 25th - don't get crazy but have one or two per draft)

C) Users should not have perfect information
3) User should not have PERFECT information.

Depending on scout ability, there should be a variance in the attributes (actually we should just be able to see the grades, and there should be variance there - like a B, should show up as B+, B or B- for a good scout and a C+, B-, B, B+, A- for a bad scout. If done with the attributes, it should be done with the same mentality of having errors int the rating. Not sure how hard this is to draft.

Also, accuracy should improve the ore you scout a player. I'd make it take much more visits to scout someone - so you actually do have to make choices. Have it so that scouting someone to 60% is very easy, like 1 visit, but scouting someone to 95% takes 6-7 visits. You want to feel very confident about certains players at the expense of knowing more about others..

Looking fwd to the patch. Any ETA on this?

I do agree with B a lot. I was doing a test sim and when I got to the draft I wasn't even trying was just trying to see what kind of rankings you saw in the draft to see what I should have the draft quality at and I noticed even with just picking the players with where the are on the mock draft and not really looking at any thing eles that I was getting a good amount of picks.

[redsox4evur]

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I don't know if this is really that big of an issue. I did a few test sims with draft quality at 25 and most of the guys in the second rounds who only in the 50's second round had a lot more misses just like real life. I heard last year that like 20 of the 30 second round picks never even got to play a game in the NBA last year. Even in the late first round I didn't see many guys above like 65-69.

It is a HUGE issue...Where did Wiggins and Parker go last year 1 & 2. In every mock draft/big board where were they ranked 1 & 2. One of the issues is that you have top 5 projected picks falling into the second round. That has never happened to my knowledge in real life.

[Leftos]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.

[darkknightrises]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.

What else dose is that patch going to improve?

[darkknightrises]

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It is a HUGE issue...Where did Wiggins and Parker go last year 1 & 2. In every mock draft/big board where were they ranked 1 & 2. One of the issues is that you have top 5 projected picks falling into the second round. That has never happened to my knowledge in real life.

I am not sure about the draft board but that could just be the way the game simulates draft bust. I do know in the NFL back when Arron rogers was drafted people thought he was going to be a top 10 pick and he ended up sliding down to like 23 or something.

[redsox4evur]

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I am not sure about the draft board but that could just be the way the game simulates draft bust. I do know in the NFL back when Aaron Rodgers was drafted people thought he was going to be a top 10 pick and he ended up sliding down to like 23 or something.

You can't compare two completely different sports. If you look at the NBA you can't win it all if you don't have at least 2 superstar nowadays. So there shouldn't be guys that are top 5 picks falling to the end of the first or the beginning of the second.

[darkknightrises]

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You can't compare two completely different sports. If you look at the NBA you can't win it all if you don't have at least 2 superstar nowadays. So there shouldn't be guys that are top 5 picks falling to the end of the first or the beginning of the second.

Oh I don't know about not being able to win inless you have at least 2 superstars has there are only like 4 superstars in the whole league to me and spurs won this last year with out any superstar.

[redsox4evur]

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Oh I don't know about not being able to win inless you have at least 2 superstars has there are only like 4 superstars in the whole league to me and spurs won this last year with out any superstar.

OK fine if you want to technical then change it to just 2 stars.

[dwayne12345]

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OK fine if you want to technical then change it to just 2 stars.

The difference is in the NFL the first 2 rounds are comprised of Starter caliber players.

In the NBA generally high lottery players are supposed to be Starters. Top 5 picks are supposed to be Franchise changing players. Low lottery players should be potential be Starters. Mid-Late first rounders can swing wildly in either direction from role player/starter to out of the league in 4 years. 2nd rounders are projects or flawed players.

It's not to say you can't get a player of any caliber at any point in the draft but the mock draft should mirror the league's expectations. Thus a player who the league expects to be a Franchise changing player will NEVER fall out of the 1st round and most probably not out of the lottery.

I look forward to Leftos' fixes though as I'm sure it will solve this issue to a workable degree.

[Sublime12089]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Can someone who has the game on PC with the Patch run a test?

Also, will the new logic require a restart to take effect? If not, will it apply to current seasons or just future ones?


Thanks for the hard work, btw Leftos.

[Habsfan88]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.

I've noticed an improvement after the 1st draft post-patch. Good job!

[dwayne12345]

Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.

It's definitely really good now. CPU handles drafts well. In my test draft only 2 late first rounders fell out of the first round and only 1 lottery pick fell out of the lottery.

Great job