I think PRIDE is ruining this game for some people

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I believe you missed the point I was making which was the personal insults and attacks need to stop so we can get this thread back on course.

In no way was I saying the issues of the game shouldn't be discussed. I would always encourage that as if there are legitimate issues they need to be addressed if possible. Video is the best way to illustrate these issues and I hope people try to take a few minutes to upload that information so devs who frequent OS can examine them.

People can complain about the game all they want so long as it remains civil and not troll.

Just a friendly reminder on trolling:

Trolling
Trolling is posting with the intent of creating a negative reaction from one or multiple posters. Essentially - don't post to draw attention to yourself, don't attack other posters, don't bash things just because you can, and don't try to be the poster that is the "cool kid". Be mature when posting.

No I'm sorry ND.. if you feel that he personally attacked anyone then ban him now. We're not tolerating that remember but I saw no trolling here from Klayups.. if its the Dirk guy you were referring too then yes he's def. toeing the line hard.

[Pr33mo]

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Right on rux, perspective is everything, I come from the same cloth. I even appreciate the flaws that comes with the game because it gives me hope that next year they will improve even more

What will happen if they make a PERFECT game? Nothing to look forward to following year

Let's keep 2k moving forward and help each other as gamers


I can tell you if there was internet in the 90's and forums/social media I guarantee nba games would've been gone from video games after 1996

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Re: I think PRIDE is ruining this game for some people

I think the OP pointed out that it's not perfect might need sliders here and there and even said this thread isn't for everyone so he was addressing a specific subjevct.

It's not even about perfection to be honest. It's about those not being honest about themselves and blaming everything on the game. You know we've all seen it and especially this year with the host of defensive options which so many people cried about last year being gone comes back even better but you're still losing in the same old way?

Yeah no just no.

[XXstormmXX]

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I can't speak about 2k15 because I don't get the game until I get my new laptop later this year, but I can speak from experience playing A LOT of 2k14.

The problem isn't difficulty it's that the game overrides your settings late in the game. I set my sliders how I like it and the game plays realistic and fine until late in the game where absolutely ridiculous things happen, things like Nick Young scoring 15 in the fourth quarter or Nate Robinson posterizing a 6'10 big man. Also it doesn't matter how good you are with the releases, suddenly in the second half everyone will go cold at the same time and you miss every release.

If the game didn't override your settings late in the game it would be perfect.

[Pr33mo]

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I can't speak about 2k15 because I don't get the game until I get my new laptop later this year, but I can speak from experience playing A LOT of 2k14.

The problem isn't difficulty it's that the game overrides your settings late in the game. I set my sliders how I like it and the game plays realistic and fine until late in the game where absolutely ridiculous things happen, things like Nick Young scoring 15 in the fourth quarter or Nate Robinson posterizing a 6'10 big man. Also it doesn't matter how good you are with the releases, suddenly in the second half everyone will go cold at the same time and you miss every release.

If the game didn't override your settings late in the game it would be perfect.

Well first I can tell u that to me 2k15 plays NOTHING like 2k14. I also know what u mean but honestly both scenarios of nate robinson and nick young are pretty realistic in nba games. In 2k15 the cpu will ratchet up the play in crunch time as it should, its our job to recognize what is making them play better and neutralize it and from small sample size since games release I can say that strategies specifically for these instances WORK, granted u figure out why the cpu went on a run in first place.

I dont believe 2k makes the users miss every shot in certain instances just so they can lose I think some people start pressing and changing way they been playing all game and results in rushing shots or so on.


You will love 2k15 strategies

[tomzennsbruh]

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This truly is a pride issue. Nobody is telling you to play on SS/Sim. You don't HAVE to. There are different difficulty options, use them. I can't do good on Destiny playing the hard difficulty, so I play lower. I don't go to the Bungee messageboard and complain that the Harder modes are too hard and its cheating. I know I'm not good enoigh, so I play on lower difficulties and have fun. Bottom line.

Even though 2k15 is trying to emulate a real life sport, and not fantasy like Destiny, so we expect more. But you have to have a 'grown man' mentality and understand...it really is a video game.

That is not a cop out for mossing modes or crashes, but its tied to difficulties like a video game. It is a work of art made by humans who aren't perfect and make mistakes. Expecting everything to be exactly how you want it, and perfect, is not an adult perspective of understanding how the world, and creation of art, works.

You can make all the excuses you want, but just like me and harder difficulties of Destiny, I'm just not good enough to compete.

"The only thing wrong with being a scrub, is not admitting it."

Best quote to sum it up.

[Klayups]

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We should all just get in the habit of posting up our gameplay sessions.

That way all the back and forth about whats cheating and whats not cheating can be squashed.

[swac07]

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We should all just get in the habit of posting up our gameplay sessions.

That way all the back and forth about whats cheating and whats not cheating can be squashed.

Yup its 2014...Theres no excuse with these next gen consoles..you can actually record and post gameplay from the systems themselves now..no more blanket statements or pics..post gameplay

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[mvspree8]

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LOL at this post being a thinly-veiled way to say "I'm better at videogames than you."

[ruxpinke]

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LOL at this post being a thinly-veiled way to say "I'm better at videogames than you."

disagree - Borninthemecca has been active on the boards, giving good reasoned insight, addressing flaws when applicable, and helping dudes who ask for it.

[NDAlum]

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LOL at this post being a thinly-veiled way to say "I'm better at videogames than you."

That was my first impression and I was going to close the thread so I understand that being what you take away from what he said.

It's more of "don't hop into a tough game level and complain the game has issues when you haven't put in the practice to learn the game and utilize all the tactics at your disposal"

That video behind shadows had in here was a perfect example of what OP is talking about.

[TheLetterZ]

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There's this weird cognitive dissonance with some people where they think the game should always be challenging without them having to invest time and effort in improving.

[Pared]

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This community is hilarious. Not everyone has time to sit down for hours adjusting sliders and trying to study real life tendencies. If I wanted to ball that hard, I'd go to a gym. I have a wife, job, and new born. When I have a little bit of free time, I just want to play a game. Win or lose... I really don't care. I just don't wanna feel cheated.

It takes all of a few seconds to type a message during a lunch break. It's really not as difficult as it seems... Or maybe you should try typing on "Pro"?

If you just saved a few seconds on one of your posts, think of how easy it would be to hit the share button and post the link to a good amount of video footage so us losers can sit here and discuss. Those that don't want to tend to use the same excuse you are using so expect us to ignore your claims otherwise.

There's this weird cognitive dissonance with some people where they think the game should always be challenging without them having to invest time and effort in improving.

Dude. Big words. Huh?

[Bornindamecca]

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I'm glad to see this discussion evolving. I knew there would be some hurt feelings, but understand what I was observing and where I'm coming from.

2k is supposed to be a very high level game. It's not--at the highest level--supposed to be pick up and play. There is nothing wrong with playing the game more casually. That's not a diss. Sometimes people are more casual just because they don't have the time. Casual/Expert is a scale a gradation, not blanket buzzwords used to make people feel bad about their approach to the game.

2k made a higher level basketball simulation this year, so it's understandable that there is a lot of frustration. That said, when I click on these forums, I see 95% complaining and basically only Sam Pham posting in depth strategy. That's just gross and it's not the path to a great community.

I'm not going to get into detail regarding my vision for the community here, but there MUST be an opposing viewpoint to the whiners who haven't invested into the game. It takes a large team and hair thin adjustments to make this game on a tight schedule, so if we want a better game we can't just be feedback, we have to be help.

I know there are a lot of intelligent players with the basketball and 2k knowledge to get good at this game. I'm all for breaking down the issues with this game in this context, but "I can't win the game is cheating me"....

This is an opinion forum, and in my opinion this community has more to offer. I know a lot of people see the crying and just tune it out, so I said something.

[Optimus_Dimes]

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I just recently upped my difficulty to SS with adjusted sliders (I suppose that's SS/Sim ?) and as you can notice already, I'm not too familiar with Simming etc.

I've been playing NBA2K since 2K14 where I got to HoF (default though, but nonetheless an accomplishment to me). So I'm not uberexperienced.

I decided to get into MyLeague, test some teams and difficulty settings and eventually I stumbled upon the slider forums here. I started games on Allstar/sim (I hope that's correct) and it felt too easy, I had to hold back to not obliterate my competitor. So today I decided to turn it up a notch and I upped the difficulty to SS and re-adjusted the sliders (I'm using those of Kayo here) and well I'm getting my *** handed to me, not because the cpu is cheesy, but because well, I'm not experienced enough, I'm not used to running plays (Ive never ever used any, not even smart plays). So you could say I'm a big PnR spammer or even a "PG only dribble" type of guy (which I was and it ALWAYS worked lol) but atleast now I really NEED to learn more aspects of the game and I'm willing to do so too.

I rather have my players freelance though but if I need to use plays to get the W or to get better on this setting, I will.
Again, not complaining, I could turn the difficulty down, but I'm here to learn AND totally enjoying it, it feels so realistic and I'm amazed by the CPU beating me and hoping that I get better at such game too!