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  • coached17
    Banned
    • Oct 2014
    • 487

    #31
    Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

    It's early...but Trey Burke and Eric Gordon have been miserable, and that's putting it nicely.

    Teams aren't even defending Matt Barnes on the 3PT line and even with wide-open looks and teams DARING him to shoot, he's shooting 32% from 3.

    Goran Dragic's numbers are way down...and he's not making 3's.

    Wilson Chandler and Gallinari have been bad...and Chandler Parsons hasn't been much better.

    Don't even get me started on the ratings of one Kobe Bean Bryant....

    Lance has been awful....John Wall is back to not making 3's and Paul Pierce has been atrocious.

    Granted, for most teams it's been 7 or 8 games...about 10% of a season.

    But...this is the road you walk when you start giving big boosts to players who have 3 or 4 game "hot" streaks. If you're not also bumping players DOWN for cold streaks, well...then you are going to have offensive ratings that are overpowered.

    Personally, despite this post - I'm not a fan of bumping players DOWN really fast after a slump. But...that's because I'm also not a fan of bumping players on mini "hot" streaks up too quickly.

    I would just caution that we make sure players are able to keep things up for more than a handful of games before giving them a bump UP. And let's make sure that if a guy is bricking shots for an extended period of time...that he gets some kind of bump in the other direction.


    Trey Burke and Eric Gordon have been so bad, a bump down is due for both shortly. And I know he is an all-time great, but Kobe just isn't what he used to be...sorry Laker fans.

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    • Sundown
      MVP
      • Oct 2010
      • 3270

      #32
      NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

      Originally posted by coached17
      And I know he is an all-time great, but Kobe just isn't what he used to be...sorry Laker fans.
      It's pretty nuts that Kobe actually got a BUMP for what's been high volume chucking when he was already rated extremely high-- top-5 player high-- out of the gates.

      That's... not right.

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      • JwP23
        Rookie
        • Mar 2012
        • 168

        #33
        Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

        Originally posted by Sundown
        It's pretty nuts that Kobe actually got a BUMP for what's been high volume chucking when he was already rated extremely high-- top-5 player high-- out of the gates.

        That's... not right.
        Dude in charge of rosters is a joke. His works are being overrated by some OSers.

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        • Dangerzone_5
          Rookie
          • Sep 2014
          • 31

          #34
          Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

          It is sad how the majority of us have lost sight as to what has been done with this game. For the first time in sports video game history there is someone dedicated enough to update the most important part of the game on a nearly daily bases.

          There are a total of 445 players on the roster and many more with free agents and historical. Think about how ridiculous that is to manage on a daily bases. Yet here we are complaining about how Kobe needs to be lowered a few points or why isn't (insert any player's name) not shooting more (insert desired shot type).

          I for one am astounded at the detail and dedication we are seeing that hasn't been seen before in any sports game. This by far has been the most accurate rosters out of any sports game. I think we all need to step back and appreciate what is going on here and let the updates come with time. After all we are only a few weeks into the season and this is the first time this type of detailed work has even been attempted and it has been done very well in my eyes.

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          • renome
            Rookie
            • Nov 2014
            • 406

            #35
            "It is sad how the majority of us have lost sight as to what has been done with this game. For the first time in sports video game history there is someone dedicated enough to update the most important part of the game on a nearly daily bases.

            There are a total of 445 players on the roster and many more with free agents and historical. Think about how ridiculous that is to manage on a daily bases. Yet here we are complaining about how Kobe needs to be lowered a few points or why isn't (insert any player's name) not shooting more (insert desired shot type).

            I for one am astounded at the detail and dedication we are seeing that hasn't been seen before in any sports game. This by far has been the most accurate rosters out of any sports game. I think we all need to step back and appreciate what is going on here and let the updates come with time. After all we are only a few weeks into the season and this is the first time this type of detailed work has even been attempted and it has been done very well in my eyes."

            Tell 'em, Dangerzone_5, preach!

            Beds/Mike, thanks for your UNPRECEDENTED contributions, man...

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            • Vni
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2011
              • 14833

              #36
              Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

              Originally posted by Dangerzone_5
              It is sad how the majority of us have lost sight as to what has been done with this game. For the first time in sports video game history there is someone dedicated enough to update the most important part of the game on a nearly daily bases.

              There are a total of 445 players on the roster and many more with free agents and historical. Think about how ridiculous that is to manage on a daily bases. Yet here we are complaining about how Kobe needs to be lowered a few points or why isn't (insert any player's name) not shooting more (insert desired shot type).

              I for one am astounded at the detail and dedication we are seeing that hasn't been seen before in any sports game. This by far has been the most accurate rosters out of any sports game. I think we all need to step back and appreciate what is going on here and let the updates come with time. After all we are only a few weeks into the season and this is the first time this type of detailed work has even been attempted and it has been done very well in my eyes.
              Very well said but at the same time if you're quick to bump players ratings when they have a hot game or two you have to be just as quick to lower their ratings when they come down to earth or you will end up having inflated ratings.

              I think beds will have to reset rosters at some point... It's almost impossible to bump and lower everybody's ratings on a daily basis.

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              • NewJerseyProdigy
                Banned
                • Sep 2014
                • 140

                #37
                Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

                Bojan Bogdanovic has been a consistent threat on offense. Hope he gets some love next update.

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                • demunnj
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 231

                  #38
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

                  Originally posted by Vni
                  Very well said but at the same time if you're quick to bump players ratings when they have a hot game or two you have to be just as quick to lower their ratings when they come down to earth or you will end up having inflated ratings.

                  I think beds will have to reset rosters at some point... It's almost impossible to bump and lower everybody's ratings on a daily basis.


                  I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He's getting paid for a reason... Remember this is his job, he's not some random roster Maker.

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                  • G0DZGiFT
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1741

                    #39
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

                    Originally posted by demunnj
                    I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. He's getting paid for a reason... Remember this is his job, he's not some random roster Maker.

                    Some people will never be satisfied. If you guys don't like the roster, create your own as usual. You don't like the ratings, rerate them yourselves and stop bashing someone for doing their jobs. Good work beds. Keep it up. Some people appreciate it.


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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #40
                      NBA 2K15 Roster Update Details (11-12-14)

                      Originally posted by renome
                      "It is sad how the majority of us have lost sight as to what has been done with this game. For the first time in sports video game history there is someone dedicated enough to update the most important part of the game on a nearly daily bases.



                      There are a total of 445 players on the roster and many more with free agents and historical. Think about how ridiculous that is to manage on a daily bases. Yet here we are complaining about how Kobe needs to be lowered a few points or why isn't (insert any player's name) not shooting more (insert desired shot type).

                      Actually the concern is Kobe getting raised when he should be lowered. It's a move in the opposite direction-- and precisely because of the volume of work there is in updating so many players, I think it's fair to be concerned about such moves because they might not be addressed and lost amidst the sea of changes there needs to be throughout the season. The large shifts on small sample sets (mostly upwards) could make for a very chaotic situation down the line.

                      I definitely appreciate the work and effort-- it's amazing and nothing like we've ever had before-- just concerned about the maintainability and stability of this process in getting players to properly relate to each other. But like I've said before, if some of these updates are guys Beds had his eye on and just needed confirmation early in season, that's fine. I would like to see a bit of the automated streaks/moving averages we saw last year because it will address players more evenly (though it wasn't strong enough).
                      Last edited by Sundown; 11-13-2014, 08:55 AM.

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