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  • bo.jangles344
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 1007

    #121
    Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

    I've read every single post in this thread. Ilistened to all of you, some of you may care to hear whatihave to say. I didn't play this game pre patch. I'm a ten year vet in the 2k series. Last yeariquit playing online because i was a driving pg who liked to posterize and dish. Everyone who knows me online thinks i throw too many oops this year because that's all i did last year, buti quit when the zig zag cheese got out of hand. I lost one too many games to trying to d someone up and having them drain 3 after 3on me. The game i "retired" from was whena guy literally hit every point for his team from deep on me. I deleted half my friends list because they left me on an island. It was absurd, inexcusable, and offensive. I've not seen that once this year.

    Finally, Jesus dear lord, defense has bestowed it's benevolence upon us. Hey ballers, remember how many timesa rr or a flyer team stuckahand in your face face and you still made it? Never would have happened in real life. That whole "deadeye" badge? No one hits contested shots at a 60-70 percent clip in the nba. Maybe 20-40 and that's the range. Late defender? Still make you think too much sometimes. Oh, and players make way less open shots than they miss in real life too. That's basketball.

    My gripes? (flyer btw) is that defense still isn't boosted properly. Boosting lateral quickness and defensive iq might make sense, but the whole package, blocks, steals, those should still be pretty low. I get blocked my toenails and miss dunks all the time because inside scoring of all types got nerfed. I thought about being a rough rider, for my affinity of dunking as a pg. But the funny thing is that everyoneiplayed with last year wants to be a pg because they're on the flyers. I made a sacrifice for my teammates and decided to play more off the ball this year. And thanks to the ballers and rough riders, my average height 6'6 sg is basicallya big, slow, pg and with the added hitch in my dribbles even my 2 guard is worthless. I'm going to be forced to make a 7ft sf just to be able to compete with everyone littler than me who gets boards as a rr or to have length to guard the guy who refuses to go in the paint.

    All of you ruined it for the new guys because the "boosts" were abused and taken away from daddy likea spoiled child. The way you guys play must be horrible to watch. I've had a lot of fun beating you guys because you only ever try to do one of 2 things and I've always been a passer. Just be glad that the game isn't the way it was before, because if i could still posterize people half as well as you used to, you wouldn't be able to defend me. I'm not saying that i can't dunk, but I've missed so many open layups and dunks that it's unfathomable to me too see how you played. I can still play an all around game, but the dribbling effects and lack of consistency in the paint are some of the same reverse basketball principles that made me quit last year.

    Thanks all the ballers and rough riders for ruining what could have beena fantastic game. This is why we can't have anything nice. You ruin everything for the rest of us.

    Also, if you're feeling froggy and want to leap, I'll still see any baller, flyer, or rider on the court. Finnydot2012.come get some.

    Oh, and the standings are def rigged

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    • TrustedDegree4
      MVP
      • Jan 2014
      • 1423

      #122
      Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

      Originally posted by ItsJustaGame
      I could just be out of the loop, but do we know yet of how many rounds are left? Despite all the absurd disagreements and the title of this thread, it's definitely anybody's game, although it seems like the RR are on an unbeatable mission to win the park.

      I'm just curious as to when it will all be said and done, because I've completely given up trying to make sense of it all (no matter which park wins, always remember that the Flyers were up by 1,000 during the holiday round and went on to lose by more than 2,000 in less than 2 days).
      Not for sure but I know this ends around All-star Weekend. That when the winning team gets the new court.

      Just made the switch to Rivet City from Sunset since most of the people I play with switched. I was only a All-star 1 so nothing major compared to Legends. I never really noticed the shooting boost Sunset gets until I switched. Missing a lot of shots I would of made despite having a 89 shot across.
      Last edited by TrustedDegree4; 01-13-2015, 07:18 AM.

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      • Krullo540
        Just started!
        • Jan 2015
        • 2

        #123
        Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

        Unbelievable what huge pile of BS that Ownalot guy is writing!

        He said by good playing, teamwork and basketball knowledge you can win 8of10. Yeah.. I lately watched two good teams play each other. After 10 games both teams won 8.

        Then he mentions over and over, that the RR boost and the Ballers boost just needs you two press a single button. BS BS BS and fracking BS.
        Single pressing of X won't give you a dunking or a made three. Over and over he mentions you don't need skill for that.
        But pressing X onetime and getting the steal is somehow only possible with his oh so very high skill.

        Third thing is, he always emphasizes that a good playing guy will beat a bad guy with Flyers boost. GOD****ING****DAM.
        It is not about Lance Armstrong beating me even if i used a recumbent bike. It is about equally skilled Ballers having the same chance of winning no matter which boost they got.

        Really..
        Get out here Dumbalot.

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        • Vroman
          Pro
          • Aug 2014
          • 959

          #124
          Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

          Originally posted by BellSKA
          You mean that holiday round where hackers took out both PSN & XBLive and both Parks still managed to score wins. Nope, completely forgot about that.
          MyPark/Rec was up the whole time on PC version, just saying. Not like I believe its all legit anyways.

          On the topic, its a pointless discussion already. Every1 with max attributes + badges (gameplay getting ridiculous with more and more people being that way) can do insane steals, make hard shots, ridiculous fast dunks etc etc.
          Last edited by Vroman; 01-13-2015, 08:53 AM.

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          • BellSKA
            Pro
            • Jul 2012
            • 597

            #125
            Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

            Originally posted by Krullo540
            Unbelievable what huge pile of BS that Ownalot guy is writing!

            He said by good playing, teamwork and basketball knowledge you can win 8of10. Yeah.. I lately watched two good teams play each other. After 10 games both teams won 8.

            Then he mentions over and over, that the RR boost and the Ballers boost just needs you two press a single button. BS BS BS and fracking BS.
            Single pressing of X won't give you a dunking or a made three. Over and over he mentions you don't need skill for that.
            But pressing X onetime and getting the steal is somehow only possible with his oh so very high skill.

            Third thing is, he always emphasizes that a good playing guy will beat a bad guy with Flyers boost. GOD****ING****DAM.
            It is not about Lance Armstrong beating me even if i used a recumbent bike. It is about equally skilled Ballers having the same chance of winning no matter which boost they got.

            Really..
            Get out here Dumbalot.

            Sounds like someone needs to read the 'Zero Tolerance in 2K Forum' again...

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            • HowDareI
              MVP
              • Jan 2012
              • 1900

              #126
              Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

              Originally posted by bo.jangles344
              I've read every single post in this thread. Ilistened to all of you, some of you may care to hear whatihave to say. I didn't play this game pre patch. I'm a ten year vet in the 2k series. Last yeariquit playing online because i was a driving pg who liked to posterize and dish. Everyone who knows me online thinks i throw too many oops this year because that's all i did last year, buti quit when the zig zag cheese got out of hand. I lost one too many games to trying to d someone up and having them drain 3 after 3on me. The game i "retired" from was whena guy literally hit every point for his team from deep on me. I deleted half my friends list because they left me on an island. It was absurd, inexcusable, and offensive. I've not seen that once this year.

              Finally, Jesus dear lord, defense has bestowed it's benevolence upon us. Hey ballers, remember how many timesa rr or a flyer team stuckahand in your face face and you still made it? Never would have happened in real life. That whole "deadeye" badge? No one hits contested shots at a 60-70 percent clip in the nba. Maybe 20-40 and that's the range. Late defender? Still make you think too much sometimes. Oh, and players make way less open shots than they miss in real life too. That's basketball.

              My gripes? (flyer btw) is that defense still isn't boosted properly. Boosting lateral quickness and defensive iq might make sense, but the whole package, blocks, steals, those should still be pretty low. I get blocked my toenails and miss dunks all the time because inside scoring of all types got nerfed. I thought about being a rough rider, for my affinity of dunking as a pg. But the funny thing is that everyoneiplayed with last year wants to be a pg because they're on the flyers. I made a sacrifice for my teammates and decided to play more off the ball this year. And thanks to the ballers and rough riders, my average height 6'6 sg is basicallya big, slow, pg and with the added hitch in my dribbles even my 2 guard is worthless. I'm going to be forced to make a 7ft sf just to be able to compete with everyone littler than me who gets boards as a rr or to have length to guard the guy who refuses to go in the paint.

              All of you ruined it for the new guys because the "boosts" were abused and taken away from daddy likea spoiled child. The way you guys play must be horrible to watch. I've had a lot of fun beating you guys because you only ever try to do one of 2 things and I've always been a passer. Just be glad that the game isn't the way it was before, because if i could still posterize people half as well as you used to, you wouldn't be able to defend me. I'm not saying that i can't dunk, but I've missed so many open layups and dunks that it's unfathomable to me too see how you played. I can still play an all around game, but the dribbling effects and lack of consistency in the paint are some of the same reverse basketball principles that made me quit last year.

              Thanks all the ballers and rough riders for ruining what could have beena fantastic game. This is why we can't have anything nice. You ruin everything for the rest of us.

              Also, if you're feeling froggy and want to leap, I'll still see any baller, flyer, or rider on the court. Finnydot2012.come get some.

              Oh, and the standings are def rigged
              I made a 6'10 small forward since the beginning on the Rough Riders and I barely dunked on people then, and I almost never do it now..in fact the Ballers and Flyers I played against dunked more than my squad did..the boosts for us were never that high which is why the other two had more people than us.

              You understand as a Flyer, your boost is probably the worst in the game right now? Everyone in the park, EVERYONE in the PARK, spams X at some time on D. And as a Flyer, you get more steals like that...STILL, after the patch. We get a lot of offensive boards as Rough Riders, but that's just a problem in the game itself so it's not just us.

              Everyone on here talking like the boosts aren't cheesy but only for the team they're on. It's all cheese. And if you been playing for a while and your rank's up, you subconsciously been doing it whether you like to admit it or not.
              I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
              I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

              -Allen Iverson

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              • dxuy
                Just started!
                • Jan 2015
                • 4

                #127
                Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                All the patch did was make it a bit more easy to guard you guys but we figured out how to stop most of the Ballers before the patch.

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                • ViolenceFight
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1141

                  #128
                  Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                  Originally posted by HowDareI
                  I made a 6'10 small forward since the beginning on the Rough Riders and I barely dunked on people then, and I almost never do it now..in fact the Ballers and Flyers I played against dunked more than my squad did..the boosts for us were never that high which is why the other two had more people than us.

                  You understand as a Flyer, your boost is probably the worst in the game right now? Everyone in the park, EVERYONE in the PARK, spams X at some time on D. And as a Flyer, you get more steals like that...STILL, after the patch. We get a lot of offensive boards as Rough Riders, but that's just a problem in the game itself so it's not just us.

                  Everyone on here talking like the boosts aren't cheesy but only for the team they're on. It's all cheese. And if you been playing for a while and your rank's up, you subconsciously been doing it whether you like to admit it or not.
                  I agree and disagree with various points you and bojangles make. I definitely notice the boosts, but certain nerfs made things look less powerful. Adding a bigger penalty on Zigzag made most of the Ballers worse. I say most, because a good Baller squad is still hard to deal with. Had a guy the other night drop everything on me. Granted, the Random number generator screwed him next game, because he bricked everything, but there's still the threat of them hitting anything if there's a players distance of an opening.

                  Behind the back, and dribbling nerfs in general, hurt rivet city. The hitch dribble stops all momentum, making any contact dunk hard to do unless you're full speed. They still get some dunks and oops that are insane, and the boost is noticeable on those, but to the average player it looks like it's totally gone.

                  Flyers got the worst boosts originally. Ball handling didn't matter when behind the back 14 literally teleported you through defenders. And Defense didn't seem good because the Ballers hit just about any shot they looked at and the Riders went over anyone in front of them.

                  That all being said, I enjoy the way the game plays now, and I enjoyed it pre patch, for different reasons. There are definitely pros and cons for each park, and often I find that some of the complaints I read are from failure to adapt. The Ballers that give me trouble drive and take mid range pull ups. They force me to sag off and keep me honest, waiting for the right time to take the 3. The Riders that move the ball to the open 3 kill my group sometimes too, especially when they expect all Rivet City guys to go to the rack. When we're forced to come out on the 3, the lane opens for them.

                  Smart Basketball wins games. Did before, does now more than ever. That's what I see regularly. Maybe I'm wrong though...

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                  • Clappington
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 737

                    #129
                    Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                    the patch if you ask me didnt really fix a lot, the behind the back is still there and so is zig zag...i go to the rec and park all people still do is zig zag and behind the back and im not gonna lie I do it right back because they do it.
                    #FreeMikeGSW
                    Mass communication/journalism Major

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                    • ViolenceFight
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1141

                      #130
                      Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                      I can tell the behind the back got nerfed. My go to move is Shamgod->BTB. About 60% of the time I get the weird contact behind the back animation instead of my actual dribble. BTB 14 will lose the ball more now too. Behind the back is always going to be a thing to deal with, but most people telegraph it badly. I'm happy that no one can teleport through guys with 14 anymore, that's enough to know it's nerfed.

                      Zig zag also doesn't work as well. I'm not sure what you're doing, but I can keep up with them now. Barring a screen or a teammate getting in the way it's very defendable. Yes, if you guess wrong, use Intense D or Turbo too much you'll get torn apart from momentum or lack of it...but that should happen. Intense D is you planting your feet. If you plant your feet against a good ball handler or an agile guy in real life you get burned. Sprint in one direction and a change of pace/direction will burn you, period. Guessing wrong or anticipating the wrong direction burns you. This is all acceptable. You stop Zigzag guys by not holding turbo unless you desperately need to catch them, in which case you let go well before you reach them. You also only plant your feet with intense when you're sure they're going to shoot to get a contest animation. Whenever those guys burn me, it's either do to an obstruction(Screen or Teammate), or I held those 2 buttons too much and paid for it. Zig Zag is defendable.

                      Also it helps to play Defense by anticipation instead of reaction. If they zig zag, and run right, they are coming back left. So just don't over commit, and when they slow down to turn meet them where they are going. It's a little easier said than done, but it's doable

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                      • Clappington
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 737

                        #131
                        Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                        Originally posted by ViolenceFight
                        I can tell the behind the back got nerfed. My go to move is Shamgod->BTB. About 60% of the time I get the weird contact behind the back animation instead of my actual dribble. BTB 14 will lose the ball more now too. Behind the back is always going to be a thing to deal with, but most people telegraph it badly. I'm happy that no one can teleport through guys with 14 anymore, that's enough to know it's nerfed.

                        Zig zag also doesn't work as well. I'm not sure what you're doing, but I can keep up with them now. Barring a screen or a teammate getting in the way it's very defendable. Yes, if you guess wrong, use Intense D or Turbo too much you'll get torn apart from momentum or lack of it...but that should happen. Intense D is you planting your feet. If you plant your feet against a good ball handler or an agile guy in real life you get burned. Sprint in one direction and a change of pace/direction will burn you, period. Guessing wrong or anticipating the wrong direction burns you. This is all acceptable. You stop Zigzag guys by not holding turbo unless you desperately need to catch them, in which case you let go well before you reach them. You also only plant your feet with intense when you're sure they're going to shoot to get a contest animation. Whenever those guys burn me, it's either do to an obstruction(Screen or Teammate), or I held those 2 buttons too much and paid for it. Zig Zag is defendable.

                        Also it helps to play Defense by anticipation instead of reaction. If they zig zag, and run right, they are coming back left. So just don't over commit, and when they slow down to turn meet them where they are going. It's a little easier said than done, but it's doable

                        - sent from "The Wolf of Old Town", ViolenceFight, Via Tapatalk
                        I could see where your coming from at least when I play I can still do BTB 14 at will going to the paint and so can other people the zig zag I cant tell a difference cause if i wanted to i could still cheese that like no tomorrow i see it happening all the time and ohhh another new form of zig zag is they do a certain behind the back that moves you way over one way then moves you the other way and now im seeing a lot of people do some sort of traveling move lol they pump fake the ball then they keep dribbling then do it again ( I know how they do it but I dont want everyone knowing how to do it)
                        #FreeMikeGSW
                        Mass communication/journalism Major

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                        • fdhsdf
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 3

                          #132
                          Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                          I noticed it before even hearing about it from them when I looked at the standings and Flyers post patch just smoked everybody by a bunch.

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                          • Ownal0t
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 1244

                            #133
                            Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                            Originally posted by Krullo540
                            Unbelievable what huge pile of BS that Ownalot guy is writing!

                            He said by good playing, teamwork and basketball knowledge you can win 8of10. Yeah.. I lately watched two good teams play each other. After 10 games both teams won 8.

                            Then he mentions over and over, that the RR boost and the Ballers boost just needs you two press a single button. BS BS BS and fracking BS.
                            Single pressing of X won't give you a dunking or a made three. Over and over he mentions you don't need skill for that.
                            But pressing X onetime and getting the steal is somehow only possible with his oh so very high skill.

                            Third thing is, he always emphasizes that a good playing guy will beat a bad guy with Flyers boost. GOD****ING****DAM.
                            It is not about Lance Armstrong beating me even if i used a recumbent bike. It is about equally skilled Ballers having the same chance of winning no matter which boost they got.

                            Really..
                            Get out here Dumbalot.

                            @MODS im not attacking him im just replying to the post, i know hes not going to read this but....



                            anyway. LMAO good way to begin the day. some guy is mad because he cant take the truth. you actually made me go to my laptop to respond to you. i hate to do the "i bet you're 12" line but that whole response just yells that, not to forget the "DUMBALOT" i havent heard that one in about 5 years when i did Youtube.

                            now for your post. YES we know 2k can be on some BS but dont act like this game is all luck. a team of good players actually working together and not trying to abuse some cheese type non BBALL move. and are actually playing the damn game can go on a tear in the park.

                            yes you will lose when 2k says "FUN TIME OVA" but dont act like this is every game. so again a team of Good players can ROFLstomp anyone. if you want proof, go to the rec or hang around any of the parks for 30 mins. im sure you see a huge streak build up. whether they are in a squad or randoms. i have built up lengthy win streaks with both.

                            serious question. when did you get the game? but you arent going to sit here and tell me that 2 groups ( one with a LITERAL scoring boost/ the other with a athletic/rebound boost) dont only really have to push only 1 button to get most of the boost. before the patch. all ballers had to do was shoot and it would go in while 3 people are hanging off them. while the RRs could just dunk and alley oop for days thru us flyers. EVEN IN THE FREAKING REC with "SIM"ball. like i hate im sounding like broken record. but to me and my flyer friends, pre patch, we literally had no boost. now its better some what since 2k tweaked (Hear this right) EVERYONE's SHOOTING. the ballers still has a boost however.

                            now post patch. again. why do you guys act like flyers come out of games with 20 steals? me and my boys get called for as many reaches as the other parks do. most of our steals are legit steals. and the fouls we get are legit fouls.

                            lastly. you want two equally skilled ballers to go at it. one who is really good at Defense vs one who is really good @ offense? this can go one of 2 ways obviously, the Defender locks down their man or the defender gets ****** on. i pride my self on defense and in most park games, my guy is scoring the least. but i do have games where i get cooked. both sides have a equal chance of winning, just gotta know what you are doing out there.

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                            • KehliahoMauiFootball
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 183

                              #134
                              Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                              I for one find nothing realistic about boosts of any kind (park, bought boosts, etc). Hopefully 2K16 goes the less cheesy route. When you enter my park, wouldn't it be nice to know that everyone there is limited by the same attribute caps as you are subject to? This differential of attributes causes an uneven playing field, randomness, unrealism, and noobs able to keep up with vets without having skill. These attribute boosts are borderline cheating if you ask me.

                              Centers with guard badges
                              Park Boosts
                              In-Game Bought Boosts
                              Attribute Caps that can be Exceeded

                              = Ingredients for Cheese.

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                              • TUSS11
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1483

                                #135
                                Re: MyPark Factions Imbalanced Now. Flyers will never lose

                                The boosts are only slight. +5 at the most.

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