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  • KingTocco
    Fino Alla Fine
    • Jul 2012
    • 3158

    #16
    Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

    Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
    Ok, the randomized result could be hidden. People could choose their play style and let the chips fall where they may. If you play and earn points theres an additional 2 overall points available, otherwise you get the base cap.


    Ex: same play style
    guy one: works for points 86
    guy two: wants to buy vc 84

    I see where you're going I just still don't like it. I'm all for giving users a lot of control, it's a video game mode about a created player

    And for the record, I don't want the option to be a 99 so I can abuse everyone. I just want it because it's fun to be an all-time great and try to get into the HOF.

    I play real basketball and play sim style in 2K, I'm not looking to posterize everyone at the park. Just want options

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    • 2_headedmonster
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2251

      #17
      Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

      Originally posted by StrictlyForBuckets
      I see where you're going I just still don't like it. I'm all for giving users a lot of control, it's a video game mode about a created player

      And for the record, I don't want the option to be a 99 so I can abuse everyone. I just want it because it's fun to be an all-time great and try to get into the HOF.

      I play real basketball and play sim style in 2K, I'm not looking to posterize everyone at the park. Just want options

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      Where there is power there will always be"abuse".I say that in quotation because its all relative. If Shaq could have dunked every play and scored 100 a game he would. It wouldn't make him less of a purist, you play to win the game.


      For a realistic experience realistic limitations are needed.

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      • KingTocco
        Fino Alla Fine
        • Jul 2012
        • 3158

        #18
        Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

        Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
        Where there is power there will always be"abuse".I say that in quotation because its all relative. If Shaq could have dunked every play and scored 100 a game he would. It wouldn't make him less of a purist, you play to win the game.


        For a realistic experience realistic limitations are needed.

        I disagree but it's alright.


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        • kiev123
          Rookie
          • Jan 2012
          • 109

          #19
          Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

          They should separate attributes for offline and online MyPlayers. Offline you can max you stats to 99 in every category. But online you can only be highly specialised in certain category. For example if you want to be a 3 point specialist then you're not gonna be dunking over everyone aswell.
          You can be able to be a jack of all trades player if you want but your attributes should be capped to 80 or 85 if you want to go down that route. Offline you should be able to do whatever you want to do but online needs to be balanced.

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          • TalenT
            Pro
            • Sep 2009
            • 713

            #20
            Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

            OP....I like the way you think!!! This idea is nice. I was also thinkin' along the same lines, as far as capping abilities. My idea was, I liked the way badges were earned this year, so how about basing your attribute improvement on how you performed in certain areas of the game. I.E. More blocks = More opportunities to upgrade your block attributes and then also capping things off based on height and position and everything. I think that'd be kinda cool.
            Last edited by TalenT; 02-12-2015, 06:57 PM.
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            • 8KB24
              MVP
              • Jun 2012
              • 2106

              #21
              Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

              I want to have player types based on real-life players. For example Hakeem would be low-post star/two way superstar. Tony Allen would be Lockdown Defender. Kobe would be aggresive scorer. And many more. And let's say you choose Allen. Sorry, you can't shoot, dribble or pass the ball when you enter the league at the fringe age of 19. But hey, you can lock down everyone in the game. It would take probably 3-4 years of playing/not-paying your way to attribute boosts. Also it would put caps on your shooting/dribbling/passing attributes. So you could expand your game to be slightly above average shooter to keep defenders honest(34% 3pt shooter), you could become a secondary ball-handler but couldn't become Nash and could average around 4-5 APG when maxed out. Same for other player types. A good example would be Kyle Korver -- unathletic shooter who plays with his brain and not body. Great shooting potential but lousy defense and athleticism. Same for Nash. Marion would a mold of player similar to Tony Allen but with better scoring potential and better post defense but slightly worse perimeter defense. Or you could choose Rodman and be rebounding freak and defensive freak. You get my point. Or you could simply make a 3pt for slashing guard X number of times more expensive to upgrade. Like 10-15 times.

              This was done on PC two-three years ago with Vl@d's REDitor. Point guards were as following (if I'm not mistaken): athletic - John Wall, scorer - Curry, 3pt shooter - Steve Kerr, pass-first - CP3/Rondo, defense - can't remember but Beverley would be a good bet right now.
              Last edited by 8KB24; 02-12-2015, 03:18 PM.

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              • Paul21694
                Banned
                • Dec 2014
                • 868

                #22
                Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                My ideal thing would be to pick two 'idols', from different positions and different eras, one present and one past, but one of those idols had to belong to the position your player plays in. So, if you wanted a sharpshooter small forward with decent slashing ability, you could choose Kevin Durant and Ray Allen. If you wanted a dominant physical presence with decent jump shooting ability, you'd choose LeBron and Dennis Rodman, or an all round brilliant rebounder and dunking Center, you could choose DeAndre Jordan and Charles Barkley.

                I like the system of old anyway, based on position, play style, height and weight your attributes were capped. My 2K14 shooting guard was a Slasher so he was really good for layups and dunks but I had to develop his jump shooting and he was capped there, and my passing attribute was capped at 75 or something.


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                • Chemthethriller
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 514

                  #23
                  Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                  Originally posted by StrictlyForBuckets
                  No I don't like this, the whole point of the mode is MYCareer/MYPark. I want to be able to make my guy however I want. I wanted to make a clone of Magic Johnson this year but couldn't because I can only make my PG 6 foot 7.

                  Honestly I want total customization and if I want to make an all-time great type player so be it.

                  People will complain either way, what 2k should focus on is the gameplay itself and make it harder to score, tune defense to be more efficient, etc. No matter what there will always be exploits. The last thing I want to see is a random generator for making my guy. I like how this year you need to earn the badges and can't just buy them like last year, I also don't mind the buckets although some of them don't make sense IMO.

                  It's a video game, it's not real life. I should be able to go number 1 overall and be a stud if I want.

                  The real issue online is lag, no rules in the park, and dunking is way overpowered, it's like we are playing NBA street.


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                  The problem is that Magic Johnson had faults, and when you play in the Rec/Park you end up playing against a lot of 7'0" SFs that have the dribble skills of Iverson, the post game of Hakeem, and the defense of Ben Wallace.

                  Height caps are needed, and they need to be lowered there is almost no point being a min height to 6'6" PG, and no point to making a SG/PF and little to no advantage of making a Center.

                  You have to make the other positions relavant whether it's a C because he holds a distinct height advantage/post advantage or a PG because his dribble skills can get him out of bad situations...
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                  • iTofu
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 293

                    #24
                    Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                    I'm fine with reconfiguring the way caps work, but I don't like the idea of random caps.

                    The user should be able to have some idea, when starting, what s/he is building towards and have a reasonable amount of confidence that with enough effort s/he can achieve it.

                    Originally posted by TrustedDegree4
                    So basically make it a 1/100k for the LeBron Skill cap or 1% chance, and make it only able to SF. This would make the game better.
                    That'd definitely make it worse. People go into park and get absolutely crushed repeatedly by people who through will or luck have built LeBron level characters. The boards would be spammed with messages how it's the biggest injustice ever.

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                    • 2_headedmonster
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2251

                      #25
                      Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                      Originally posted by TalenT
                      OP....I like the way you think!!! This idea is nice. I was also thinkin' along the same lines, as far as capping abilities. My idea was, I liked the way badges were earned this, so how about basing your attribute improvement on how you performed in certain areas of the game. I.E. More blocks = More blocks to upgrade your block stats and then also capping things off based on height and position and everything. I think that'd be kinda cool.
                      I like the idea of earning what you get, but there also needs to be a basis for original ratings. Anything in mind for that?

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                      • 2_headedmonster
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2251

                        #26
                        Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                        Originally posted by iTofu
                        I'm fine with reconfiguring the way caps work, but I don't like the idea of random caps.

                        The user should be able to have some idea, when starting, what s/he is building towards and have a reasonable amount of confidence that with enough effort s/he can achieve it.

                        That'd definitely make it worse. People go into park and get absolutely crushed repeatedly by people who through will or luck have built LeBron level characters. The boards would be spammed with messages how it's the biggest injustice ever.
                        Choosing a player type would give a MP the desired direction. The randomized skill caps would just mean your 'athletic scoring guard' could have the potential to be anyone from Derozan to (in rare instances)Kobe.

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                        • shayellis
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 371

                          #27
                          Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                          They could do randomize the caps and make then hidden, but i think we all know that 2k's not gonna do that
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                          • 2_headedmonster
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2251

                            #28
                            Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                            Originally posted by Chemthethriller
                            The problem is that Magic Johnson had faults, and when you play in the Rec/Park you end up playing against a lot of 7'0" SFs that have the dribble skills of Iverson, the post game of Hakeem, and the defense of Ben Wallace.

                            Height caps are needed, and they need to be lowered there is almost no point being a min height to 6'6" PG, and no point to making a SG/PF and little to no advantage of making a Center.

                            You have to make the other positions relavant whether it's a C because he holds a distinct height advantage/post advantage or a PG because his dribble skills can get him out of bad situations...
                            I agree. Every all time great, had limitations, Magic included. But when everyone has the opportunity to be basically the best basketball player to ever touch a basketball, its not hard to imagine what path the masses will take.

                            I dont think the height limits meed to be in place as the appropriate physical limitations are in place.
                            Last edited by 2_headedmonster; 02-12-2015, 09:19 PM.

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                            • KingTocco
                              Fino Alla Fine
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 3158

                              #29
                              Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                              Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
                              I agree. Every all time great, had limitations, Magic included. But when everyone has the opportunity to be basically the best basketball player to ever touch a basketball, its not hard to imagine what path the masses will take.

                              I dont think the height limits meed to be in place as the appropriate physical limitations are in place.
                              Yes I know Magic had faults, every person in the world has faults.

                              I think everyone is missing what I was saying. I do NOT want you to be able to have a 99 in every single attribute category. I just don't want them capped.

                              I want there to be a limit of upgrades you can have, like this year.

                              This makes it so you can still be a 99 overall if you wish, and you can still have 99 rebounding or 99 passing or whatever, but you can't have them all 99. You have to pick and choose.

                              So if you think about it, someone that is making a center would (logically, not everyone will do this because some people don't think logically) would want to have high rebound, high post, and high defense ratings, etc.

                              This way I think it still gives the user control, but not everything is overpowered. I think the heights shouldn't be capped because it makes no sense, technically you can be any height, it's just based on genetics. I should be able to be a 6 foot 9 PG, HOWEVER I should move slower and be less agile than a 6 foot 3 John Wall type. This is what needs to be fixed, not the whole random MC thing.

                              IMO
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                              • KehliahoMauiFootball
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 183

                                #30
                                Re: Randomized MyPlayer skill caps in 2k16?

                                here's my votes:

                                no to randomization
                                yes to lower attribute caps
                                yes to less badges per position/player type

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