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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #586
    Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

    Originally posted by WISports
    Or, ya know, they could patch the issues that need fixing and not mess up the things that don't.


    Oh, lol.

    Well if we're using this fantasy universe scenario were humans have complete mastery over technology....the game would be perfect upon release and wouldn't need patching in the first place....but oh, lol, we live on Earth...

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #587
      Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

      Said it before, but my biggest gripe with patch #4 is that it took away the strategy of playing the percentages and picking your poison on defense....I think this is the first 2k game since maybe 2K11 where that was implemented properly. I feel like I have to close out hard to just about everyone now. Like Mike said, it does look like contested %'s have gone down, but it's made defense more 'gamey' than realistic IMO.....besides blocking and bail out fouls I didn't have many issues defensively pre patch...

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      • Yesh2kdone
        Banned
        • Feb 2015
        • 1412

        #588
        Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

        Originally posted by WISports
        Look, I realize offline guys can MAYBE get things back to how they were before by tweaking sliders, etc. But they shouldn't have to.


        Many have spent a ton of time getting things just right. And now 2K decides to release a patch that improves some stuff, but screws other stuff up? That's just unacceptable IMO.
        Yeah those poor guys that have been able to tweak their game with sliders all this time to get the game perfect. Imagine the rest of us wanting a game that isn't a mess, but yet don't have access to those same sliders - like those of us that play career only.

        I'd hate for you to have the inconvenience of moving stuff left and right on a slider, just so some of us get a game that's enjoyable and not a baffling chore.

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        • blues rocker
          MVP
          • Sep 2007
          • 1921

          #589
          Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

          overall, i like the idea behind the shooting changes - i like that there is now a much bigger difference between the success rate of open and contested shots (as Beluba confirmed, prior to the patch there was pretty minimal difference between an open shot and a contested one - only 10 percent).

          in the end, the new shooting percentages reward open shots more and punish contested shots more, which rewards the player who works to get good shots…and that's a positive no matter how you look at it.

          i do feel like they skewed the percentage a bit too much. 60% feels a bit too high for open shots (maybe 55% would've been a bit better), but 60% works.

          on the other hand, the issue of "all perfect release shots going in" is just terrible. I don't know how they ever decided to put that in the game. it just goes against all that the game should be about…it makes success more about release timing than shot quality. A perfect release should not be able to override a heavy contest.
          Last edited by blues rocker; 03-25-2015, 09:47 AM.

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          • amedawg00
            2K OL Legend
            • Jan 2008
            • 2884

            #590
            Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            Said it before, but my biggest gripe with patch #4 is that it took away the strategy of playing the percentages and picking your poison on defense....I think this is the first 2k game since maybe 2K11 where that was implemented properly. I feel like I have to close out hard to just about everyone now. Like Mike said, it does look like contested %'s have gone down, but it's made defense more 'gamey' than realistic IMO.....besides blocking and bail out fouls I didn't have many issues defensively pre patch...
            24th gets it as usual. The gameplay for 2k15 pre patch 4 was sublime aside from cheap bailout fouls. 2k15 is the first game since 2k11 were strategy and skill prevails when two evenly matched opponents square off. I am speaking as an observer of patch 4 being on xb1, but I'm afraid that the patch has made a skill and strategy based game into a gimmicky game based on green release mastery. based on what I'm reading, we can no longer sag off the likes of Tony allen and Rondo? What's the point of POE defense and defensive settings if we now have to account for an entire starting 5 as shooting threats because of some ridic 60% shot heuristic configuration for open shots no matter the quality of shooter? Again this is based on observation and will withold judgement pending the patch on xb1. The only saving grace has been watching HOF sim online user v user gameplay on twitch post patch that clearly shows that contested shots don't fall as much on that level...the only level that I know.
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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #591
              Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

              Originally posted by blues rocker
              overall, i like the idea behind the shooting changes - i like that there is now a much bigger difference between the success rate of open and contested shots (as Beluba confirmed, prior to the patch there was pretty minimal difference between an open shot and a contested one - only 10 percent).

              in the end, the new shooting percentages reward open shots more and punish contested shots more, which rewards the player who works to get good shots…and that's a positive no matter how you look at it.

              i do feel like they skewed the percentage a bit too much. 60% feels a bit too high for open shots (maybe 55% would've been a bit better), but 60% works.

              on the other hand, the issue of "all perfect release shots going in" is just terrible. I don't know how they ever decided to put that in the game. it just goes against all that the game should be about…it makes success more about release timing than shot quality. A perfect release should not be able to override a heavy contest.
              Agreed. It makes sense to bump up those percentages because if an NBA has a wide-open look from close- or mid-range, he should hit that shot more than half of the time. If you can contest those looks, the percentages do go down; I've seen it first-hand in the games I've played.

              I use Real FG% so the perfect release isn't an issue for me, but I do think that was a step in the wrong direction.
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              • blues rocker
                MVP
                • Sep 2007
                • 1921

                #592
                Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                Originally posted by DJ
                Agreed. It makes sense to bump up those percentages because if an NBA has a wide-open look from close- or mid-range, he should hit that shot more than half of the time. If you can contest those looks, the percentages do go down; I've seen it first-hand in the games I've played.

                I use Real FG% so the perfect release isn't an issue for me, but I do think that was a step in the wrong direction.
                yeah, the pre-patch percentages that Beluba posted were just too similar. 35% feels way too high for a fully contested shot. and 45% feels too low for an open shot. so the new percentages are a step in the right direction (though, like i said - 60% still feels a bit too high to me on open shots).

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                • gamesohgames
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 4

                  #593
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                  So I played another match. It was for 25 dollars. No matter how good of defense I played the guy made his shots. I checked the shot charts and he had shot 60 to 70 percent from the field. He was literally shooting 70 percent from 3 with curry. Because of this, I almost had a heart attack. This is the only basketball game out to play for money right now online and it is giving me bad health. If these stats are not changed I am going to file for a lawsuit due to pain and suffering of my health. This basketball game causes too much stress to be the only basketball game that is competing. I am filing a lawsuit for this game to be taken off the shelves and for nba live or nba jam or nba street to take its place. This game has caused way too much stress after this last patch. I am calling my lawyer within the next few days to set this up.

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                  • madmax52277
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 435

                    #594
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                    Originally posted by gamesohgames
                    So I played another match. It was for 25 dollars. No matter how good of defense I played the guy made his shots. I checked the shot charts and he had shot 60 to 70 percent from the field. He was literally shooting 70 percent from 3 with curry. Because of this, I almost had a heart attack. This is the only basketball game out to play for money right now online and it is giving me bad health. If these stats are not changed I am going to file for a lawsuit due to pain and suffering of my health. This basketball game causes too much stress to be the only basketball game that is competing. I am filing a lawsuit for this game to be taken off the shelves and for nba live or nba jam or nba street to take its place. This game has caused way too much stress after this last patch. I am calling my lawyer within the next few days to set this up.
                    Dude's be bugging...you get the Pinocchio face
                    Last edited by madmax52277; 03-25-2015, 11:30 AM.

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                    • jeremym480
                      Speak it into existence
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 18198

                      #595
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                      Originally posted by DJ
                      I believe it does, at least in the games I've played. Shooting percentages are up a few points for both me and the CPU, but I haven't seen anything over 50% for a game yet. Last game I played was in my Charlotte Hornets MyLeague versus the New Orleans Pelicans. Pelicans won by 7, 98-91 and if I recall correctly, they shot 48% for the game and I was at 46%. I didn't see anything that made me think the game was "broken".

                      You do see more mid-range and close-range shots going in, but 3-pointers remain the same. I actually like that the close-range was bumped up as that's seemed to help more layups from bigs go in with traffic around them, whereas before it was typically a miss if you weren't wide-open down low.
                      This has pretty much been my experience with Real % post patch, as well. Although I've only played a handful of games with the patch. Before I could rarely hit two and almost never three in a row with guys like Ryan Anderson and Luke Babbitt even if the were wide open set shots. Now if they're open they seem to hit more than miss, but will still miss occasionally. Also, pre-patch a shot with a hand in your face never seemed to fall and now I've seen a few go in.

                      Also, contested shots down low seem to be falling at a higher rate, but that's an improvement from before where nothing ever seemed to fall. It's just nice to see some big's get contact and be able to muscle through it for and And 1.

                      IIRC in my last game I shot around 47% and 39% from 3. With that said, I've only played a few games, so obviously it's a very small sample size. I may have to readjust some sliders, but I'm wait a few games before going too crazy with them. However, from what I've seen with Real % all I have to say is so far so good.
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                      • erickonasis
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3016

                        #596
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                        Originally posted by gamesohgames
                        So I played another match. It was for 25 dollars. No matter how good of defense I played the guy made his shots. I checked the shot charts and he had shot 60 to 70 percent from the field. He was literally shooting 70 percent from 3 with curry. Because of this, I almost had a heart attack. This is the only basketball game out to play for money right now online and it is giving me bad health. If these stats are not changed I am going to file for a lawsuit due to pain and suffering of my health. This basketball game causes too much stress to be the only basketball game that is competing. I am filing a lawsuit for this game to be taken off the shelves and for nba live or nba jam or nba street to take its place. This game has caused way too much stress after this last patch. I am calling my lawyer within the next few days to set this up.
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                        • madmax52277
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 435

                          #597
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                          Originally posted by erickonasis
                          This made me laugh
                          Lol..it's not like he's being force to play this game..it crack me up myself.

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                          • Padgoi
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1873

                            #598
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                            Originally posted by gamesohgames
                            So I played another match. It was for 25 dollars. No matter how good of defense I played the guy made his shots. I checked the shot charts and he had shot 60 to 70 percent from the field. He was literally shooting 70 percent from 3 with curry. Because of this, I almost had a heart attack. This is the only basketball game out to play for money right now online and it is giving me bad health. If these stats are not changed I am going to file for a lawsuit due to pain and suffering of my health. This basketball game causes too much stress to be the only basketball game that is competing. I am filing a lawsuit for this game to be taken off the shelves and for nba live or nba jam or nba street to take its place. This game has caused way too much stress after this last patch. I am calling my lawyer within the next few days to set this up.
                            Maybe Sony or Microsoft will sue you first for . . . ya know, illegally gambling on their networks.

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                            • gamesohgames
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 4

                              #599
                              Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                              I just played another match for $30 on gamersaloon. I played A1 perfect defense. Best defense possible. My opponent shot 14-25 from 3 and that was a bad shooting game from him. He was making 3s all in my face with curry and thompson. I pray that the person who made this last patch dies. I pray that they have cancer and death karma. I pray that they slowly die for ruining a game so bad. This person has costed me thousands. Anyone who believes in God needs to pray with me. I am a strong believer of God and have prayed with all my might that the person who released this stupid motherfu,c,king patch suffers and dies slow for not thinking before releasing this patch.

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                              • zrohman
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 834

                                #600
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Patch #4 Available Now, Primarily Addresses Shoe Issues

                                Originally posted by gamesohgames
                                I just played another match for $30 on gamersaloon. I played A1 perfect defense. Best defense possible. My opponent shot 14-25 from 3 and that was a bad shooting game from him. He was making 3s all in my face with curry and thompson. I pray that the person who made this last patch dies. I pray that they have cancer and death karma. I pray that they slowly die for ruining a game so bad. This person has costed me thousands. Anyone who believes in God needs to pray with me. I am a strong believer of God and have prayed with all my might that the person who released this stupid motherfu,c,king patch suffers and dies slow for not thinking before releasing this patch.
                                Uhh sounds like you were the idiot who bet thousands on a video game after a patch without practicing first.

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