Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

This guy really makes a thread about this lol? I've never thought I would hear someone complain about arrows showing you who to guard. Like others said, just turn yours off.

I don't find myself using it except when my defense is out of my camera view on occasions. Also the park definitely needs it because if you're playing w/ randoms or etc, people have on all types of different clothing and you might come across some people that have on the exact same clothes and look identical.

Nobody's offended. You're just crying about something that seems so simple.

Yeah you should probably look up "crying" in the dictionary kid. If anything, I was trying to give ya'll some tips/insight to why you suck on defense at the park.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Yeah you should probably look up "crying" in the dictionary kid. If anything, I was trying to give ya'll some tips/insight to why you suck on defense at the park.

Don't feed the trolls.

This guy is complaining about a feature that helps people find their man due to a bad camera angle or similar clothing.

I'm trying to figure out in what world is it considered "bad" defense to know who you're suppose to guard?

[DevilsFX]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

I think it makes it eaisier for less expieriences players.

[Pokes404]

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If someone doesn't know enough about basketball to realize that they don't necessarily have to follow the arrows, I seriously doubt they're going to know how to properly hedge screens, switch, and the principles of help-side defense.

The arrows are there to help you locate your man when he's off-screen, and help newcomers by pointing out who they should be guarding. Turning this off isn't going to suddenly make them realize how to play defense, it's just going to lead to their man being left open more often because they couldn't figure out who to guard.

[Sleepy59]

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It also helps out when switching players to guard a new opponent, makes your player easier to spot quickly.

[Jrocc23]

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Yeah you should probably look up "crying" in the dictionary kid. If anything, I was trying to give ya'll some tips/insight to why you suck on defense at the park.

Yeah, as if I meant literally crying. And you're giving someone that sucks like me tips because you've seen me play, all right. I don't really see tips, I just see you whining like you've just got beaten with some guys who couldn't play D, so you come here to vent and blame the arrow.

If anything, it helps people new to basketball and others more than it hurts them. 9/10, I don't even recognize the arrow unless my guy is out of the camera or a lot of guys look the same. And most people use it because it's on by default as it should be. People will always find something to complain about.

[Sleepy59]

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Plus some people discreetly play certain players out of position(lebron at point), that would certainly be abused if there was no arrow.

[Sleepy59]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

I also forgot to mention that along with playing certain players out of position, they can also adjust their "who to guard" and further cause confusion

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

Don't feed the trolls.

This guy is complaining about a feature that helps people find their man due to a bad camera angle or similar clothing.

I'm trying to figure out in what world is it considered "bad" defense to know who you're suppose to guard?

Lol, this guy...

Instead of attacking the messenger, how about learn how to address the 'argument'.

Because some of you have reading comprehension issues, let me be over-clear:

1) Pointing out things is not equal to "crying", "whining", etc. Maybe you should work on your knee-jerk, 'defend 2K at all costs' reactions. I never said it was a "game-flaw", just simply a plausible explanation of why people suck at TEAM defense at the park. Sorry if I exposed your noobness and lack of basketball IQ.

2) Talk to me when you don't see what I pointed out happen all too often at my park. Noobs get obsessed with almighty arrow, and in the process never learn how to play team defense / rotation. Now is pointing this fact out "crying"? Maybe only to those who are hyper-sensitive to any criticism, or those who interpret every valid argument as "crying" or "trolling". Gimme a break.

I don't care if you think it's whining or not (that's subjective), only if you can provide a counter-point to what my original thing was...which so far, hasn't been done.

[BellSKA]

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Honestly I think you're being quite rude by creating a thread then laying into people for having a counter point. Your last post clearly shows how you'll attack anyone if they don't agree to your every word.

From another angle, saying your whining or crying is a bit harsh. You have a legitimate beef. There are plenty of times I've seen people stuck like crazy glue to their man and no help defense. It sucks to feel like you're guarding 3 people and then of course it leaves one player open for 3, usually the player you're supposed to guard. But the arrow has no play in that.

The arrow is merely a guide, not a crutch for most. Like I said in an early post. If I see a teammate who's habitually peeling off their man for whatever reason and I'm the one that gets burned, good luck seeing me help on defense for the remainder of the game. Or at least until they get the hint that they need to d-up. Also, I mentioned before about your grade affecting how we play defense now too. If I start help defense early on in the game and I get burned my grade gets into the D's pretty fast. Before they fixed the teammate grade I got booted a few times. I don't want that to happen because I'm helping on defense. So you better believe I'm sticking to my man.

Here is a rare instance when I love the arrow. Last night I was in a game that went 'Ghost'. This happens very rarely, I can count on 1 hand the times it's happened to me. But I need the arrow to keep playing any sort of defense. Again, very rare, but was extremely helpful.

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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I still maintain this is a Training Wheels feature. Problem is, people online don't grow out of that training wheels phase by keeping it on. I think you'd have to be blind to not think this plays a part in WHY people don't know / understand / learn how to rotate on defense. Their concern isn't team defense, their concern is "I guarded who the arrow told me to so can't say nothin!"

[nmplayer]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

So in that case I assume you play with the shot meter and feedback both off and no play view, pass icons, icon pass leading? To be honest I play this way most of the time but it's just a personal preference choice and relates a lot more to the fact that I really like making videos so the less non realistic "clutter" on the screen the better.. since I've been doing this the only significant increase in my skill level that I've seen has to do with being forced to know my play books a little better. I'm Amy case though I don't see why it should matter to you how anyone else plays... if you think they're getting an unfair advantage, than really what's happening is you're giving yourself a disadvantage by not using the arrows. There's enough three point and zig zag cheese around that I think we can leave the players playing with the default defense suggestions enabled alone...

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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I play with the icons off too for the same reason you had and it's less clutter on screen. The only reason I care how people play is because the mode is inherently a team game. Don't care how someone chooses to play offline. I'm sure the arrows help for the super new to the game, but imo they also hinder players from learning how to think for themselves and react to what your teammates are doing on defense.

[blues rocker]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

there's nothing wrong with the arrow. it comes in handy on switches or in transition when you're trying to find your man.

[redsox4evur]

Re: Why do people need the "who to guard" arrow

there's nothing wrong with the arrow. it comes in handy on switches or in transition when you're trying to find your man.

And this is the only reason why I have the arrow on. For transition and switches.