Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

[dragula15]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Can't remember that well, but in Live '09 I think you used to be able to set minutes, but also a depth chart on a separate screen - so With the Mavs in '09 it always defaulted to Jason Terry s starting SG - sure, he had more minutes than Antoine Wright or Stackhouse, but I could manually put Terry as the reserve SG with Wright as the starter - but I think I could also designate Wright as the backup SF behind Josh Howard


A depth chart with a minutes allocation should seriously not be hard menu or game mechanic to implement - see the excel cells below - this would not be difficult to turn into a rotation/lineup menu

[ffaacc03]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Can't remember that well, but in Live '09 I think you used to be able to set minutes, but also a depth chart on a separate screen - so With the Mavs in '09 it always defaulted to Jason Terry s starting SG - sure, he had more minutes than Antoine Wright or Stackhouse, but I could manually put Terry as the reserve SG with Wright as the starter - but I think I could also designate Wright as the backup SF behind Josh Howard


A depth chart with a minutes allocation should seriously not be hard menu or game mechanic to implement - see the excel cells below - this would not be difficult to turn into a rotation/lineup menu

Cant say how easy it would be to implement but it is desperately needed, specialy for 30 team control associations !

[ghbnm]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

This plays into the fact rotations need a major look at. Maybe a teams playstyle can effect what type of guys get minutes?

[24ct]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Ok in all seriousness I had to google what came after secondary

But yea, the way the league is moving (more towards position-less basketball)I would love to be able to set guys like Evan Turner and Tyreke Evans as Primary Small Forward, Secondary shooting guard, and also have the ability for them to sub in as the Point Guard for the Tertiary position...same goes for an Iman Shumpert...Hell for LeBron James he would need a 4th slot for Power Forward!

IDK, just a minor touch that I think would go a LONG way away...also I REALLY would like to see the CPU start players of the same position side by side in MyLeague Great example is The Sixers Have Joel Embiid and Nerlens Noel (In My Roster Embiid is a 79 Ovr C and Noel is a 77 OVR C) I would love to see a CPU controlled Sixers team start Noel at the 4 (which is listed as his secondary postition) instead of starting some no name scrub over Noel when Embiid comes back and bringing Noel off the bench...Hell or even give us the option to edit CPU rotations even if we aren't controlling the teams! Or at least have the logic to make 6th men come off the bench regardless of OVR...Like Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobli, and James Harden (In OKC of course...)

Good idea but the NBA today is literally. Wing players. And Bigs.

There should be positions in the game I guess, but players are really. Wings and Bigs. You have perimeter wings and perimeter bigs. You have Inside wings and you have inside bigs. Then you have all around wings and all around bigs.

For example I like to classify Westbrook as a 'Power Guard' he plays like a small/power foward in SG body but then you have KD who I classify as a 'Shooting Forward' if you understand where I'm coming from.

Then you have guys like Kevin Love/Randolph/Aldridge who can play inside and out. Those are also Shooting Forwards but you have a player like John Wall or Derrick Rose who I would consider 'Power Guards'

I think positions should be taken out but that's just my opinion. If anything players should be classified by there attributes if they're still in the game next year. Like if my SF is a shooter he should be a shooting/outside forward on the position scale, but if has rebounding and inside scoring etc etc he should be an inside forward.

That's how the NBA is today. As I said you have some guys who are good inside and out but those guys are most times superstars or very important pieces on a winning team (Draymond Green) can go inside and grab 17 boards, and can defend the outside and inside. Granted I don't think he'd be very good if he was another team's 'Go To/Superstar player' but he gets the job done to complete a team. This type of player should be represented in NBA 2k

[nova91]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Good idea but the NBA today is literally. Wing players. And Bigs.

There should be positions in the game I guess, but players are really. Wings and Bigs. You have perimeter wings and perimeter bigs. You have Inside wings and you have inside bigs. Then you have all around wings and all around bigs.

For example I like to classify Westbrook as a 'Power Guard' he plays like a small/power foward in SG body but then you have KD who I classify as a 'Shooting Forward' if you understand where I'm coming from.

Then you have guys like Kevin Love/Randolph/Aldridge who can play inside and out. Those are also Shooting Forwards but you have a player like John Wall or Derrick Rose who I would consider 'Power Guards'

I think positions should be taken out but that's just my opinion. If anything players should be classified by there attributes if they're still in the game next year. Like if my SF is a shooter he should be a shooting/outside forward on the position scale, but if has rebounding and inside scoring etc etc he should be an inside forward.

That's how the NBA is today. As I said you have some guys who are good inside and out but those guys are most times superstars or very important pieces on a winning team (Draymond Green) can go inside and grab 17 boards, and can defend the outside and inside. Granted I don't think he'd be very good if he was another team's 'Go To/Superstar player' but he gets the job done to complete a team. This type of player should be represented in NBA 2k

I get what you're saying and I think that's kinda what 2K was going for with the current playstyle implementation and I'd like them to improve more on that rather than adding another position to a game that already struggles trying to figure out what to do with player with their 2 positions, by getting the AI to better recognize those styles/postitions when building teams, setting rotations etc.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Good idea but the NBA today is literally. Wing players. And Bigs.

There should be positions in the game I guess, but players are really. Wings and Bigs. You have perimeter wings and perimeter bigs. You have Inside wings and you have inside bigs. Then you have all around wings and all around bigs.

For example I like to classify Westbrook as a 'Power Guard' he plays like a small/power foward in SG body but then you have KD who I classify as a 'Shooting Forward' if you understand where I'm coming from.

Then you have guys like Kevin Love/Randolph/Aldridge who can play inside and out. Those are also Shooting Forwards but you have a player like John Wall or Derrick Rose who I would consider 'Power Guards'

I think positions should be taken out but that's just my opinion. If anything players should be classified by there attributes if they're still in the game next year. Like if my SF is a shooter he should be a shooting/outside forward on the position scale, but if has rebounding and inside scoring etc etc he should be an inside forward.

That's how the NBA is today. As I said you have some guys who are good inside and out but those guys are most times superstars or very important pieces on a winning team (Draymond Green) can go inside and grab 17 boards, and can defend the outside and inside. Granted I don't think he'd be very good if he was another team's 'Go To/Superstar player' but he gets the job done to complete a team. This type of player should be represented in NBA 2k

The thing about positions though is we can actually measure based on play types and defensive matchups where players are playing (which is why their actual position is important).

It's nice to call LaMarcus Aldridge a shooting forward but at the end of the day there's a difference between he and say, Steve Novak, who many would consider "offensively a three" and "defensively a four" but he still gets a decent amount of touches in the Pick and Roll since he is often on the court as a PF.

Removing positions would devastate the systems the game runs on. In a perfect world the game would be able to differentiate between Russell Westbrook and a power forward, but this is a game that cannot even yet distinguish that a team with DeAndre Jordan doesn't also need Andre Drummond. It's the same reason you can't take out the Overall Rating. In a perfect world the game wouldn't need it, but we're like 20 years away from the tech being good enough to get away with it.

[artgamer72]

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I am an artist (hope to be paid doing what I love soon), and I immediately thought of the color wheel. I bet you saw mention of that in your search

[YaBoial]

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i think that they should also look into ratings of players if they are out of position, for ex. me moving my SF to PF should affect his rating and iq in someways being that he is not too familiar with this since its not his natural position.

[loimnh]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

This plays into the fact rotations need a major look at. Maybe a teams playstyle can effect what type of guys get minutes?

[kiongcc]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

This plays into the fact rotations need a major look at. Maybe a teams playstyle can effect what type of guys get minutes?

[Shady Mike]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

This plays into the fact rotations need a major look at. Maybe a teams playstyle can effect what type of guys get minutes?

This plays into the fact rotations need a major look at. Maybe a teams playstyle can effect what type of guys get minutes?

...What is going on here? Is this a spam account?

[QNo]

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...What is going on here? Is this a spam account?

Yeah, they appear all over the forums, with a bunch of different statements and accounts.

[luijo]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Well MLB the show probably have your solution, they have ratings for positions.. Applied to 2k we should have:

LeBron James
Pg: 80
Sg: 30
Sf: 100
Pf: 90
C: 0

That way the cpu could use an algorithm to decide if he's valuable to the team, by evaluating the player by all the positions he's able to play.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

Well MLB the show probably have your solution, they have ratings for positions.. Applied to 2k we should have:

LeBron James
Pg: 80
Sg: 30
Sf: 100
Pf: 90
C: 0

That way the cpu could use an algorithm to decide if he's valuable to the team, by evaluating the player by all the positions he's able to play.

This is already in 2K.

[Sam12345]

Re: Would anyone else like to see Primary, Secondary, and even Tertiary positions?

This is already in 2K.

Could you elaborate on that?