Some People Are Just Great At Rec

[Kurupt_XxX]

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Talking about being realistic will go on forever and get nowhere. The rec and the park are a complete joke on so many levels if you're looking for realism or sim basketball. But the point in playing is that's it's fun to get on and drop 110 on some team with your buddies and throwin the ball all over the court.


And as for the comments so far, the one about if you're shooting less than 60-70% in any given rec game, you're playing "wrong." I can't agree more with the use of the word "wrong." Because that's just it, the way the rec is, and the way the latest patch made it, if you aren't shooting above 60%, you aren't doing it right, and if you are doing it right, but you're still below 75%, then you're not doing it better than others. Nowadays there are countless dudes who can drop 50+ every game and shoot 80% the whole time.

that's true, the rec before the last patch was damn near perfect. Shots weren't going in as much as they are now. The flyers are incredibly over powered as well.

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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At this point you're just trolling.

Berating people in your thread for using the arrow wasn't enough, so you have to come in this thread to talk about it too.. Give it a rest

What a lazy response. Instead of arguing the validity of the point I made, you call people 'trolls'.

[HowDareI]

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Team of all 7' small forwards...why does that work? Why are these guys the "best" at 2K when they have no basketball knowledge at all.

Shooting bad shots (irl) with a hand in their face, dunking through good defense, etc...and it all works.

Man, 2K needs to take a look at their defense next year and make that priority. A 6'4 pg can strip a 7' sf just because of how tall they are and where they hold the ball..this craziness needs to chill.

[ItsJustaGame]

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Team of all 7' small forwards...why does that work? Why are these guys the "best" at 2K when they have no basketball knowledge at all.



Shooting bad shots (irl) with a hand in their face, dunking through good defense, etc...and it all works.



Man, 2K needs to take a look at their defense next year and make that priority. A 6'4 pg can strip a 7' sf just because of how tall they are and where they hold the ball..this craziness needs to chill.

I can't tell which side you're on with that comment.. It seemed like you were bashing 7' SF's at first, but then bashing small PG's (small in the rec) for being able to strip a 7' player.


Let's just call it what it is, some guys are great at playin rec, that doesn't mean they know basketball, or it's realistic, or it isn't cheesy, it's just the way it is. Like any video game, some guys are going to be better than others, whether they know anything about the game or not. Some 5'3" middle school kid might know exactly how to take his shots and have them go in 9/10 times, while some 30 year old who lives with his parents in the guest room might know how to kill 40 mf's using an M16 and he hasn't touched a gun in his life, or his own cable bill.


I try to make sense of it too, but I realize now that this thread could go on for days between dudes who either are or aren't good at playing Rec, arguing about how to do it or who'se cheesing. The funny thing is, most 2K players on OS Sports are either offline players, or sub-par online players. And not that this matters, but a great majority are white kids who actually know this forum exists, when in reality I think out of the best five 2K players over ever seen, 3 are black, 1 is mix, and the last is a white who knows vid games, basketball related or not.

[DakkoN]

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What a lazy response. Instead of arguing the validity of the point I made, you call people 'trolls'.

I already argued the validity of the point you made, you know, in the actual thread it was made in. You're too close minded to take anyone else's opinion, so what's the point? Nothing anyone has said in that thread has made you change your rude, arrogant, and condescending tone, so it's basically you just talking to yourself and then taking shots at people for thinking different from your opinion. Then you go on to post the same stuff in other threads that have nothing to do with it in attempts to stir up more stuff. That's basically the exact definition of being an internet troll.

[Clappington]

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If you aren't abusing the step back 3 in corner, zig zag, hell even that hesitation crossover dribble people do which creates all space and pushes you off them on defense, behind the back, idk if you want to call abusing midrange where someone can go all game and never miss a mid-range shot but ive seen that soo many times. then I will call you good lol very few people have I seen not do that and im 648-208 lot of my L's have come from all 7'0 small foward team and all 7'3 center teams lol youd be surprise what a 7'3 center can do in terms of being able to do the same dribbling moves as any other position and can shoot lights out when doing any of the things I posted.

[HowDareI]

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I can't tell which side you're on with that comment.. It seemed like you were bashing 7' SF's at first, but then bashing small PG's (small in the rec) for being able to strip a 7' player.


Let's just call it what it is, some guys are great at playin rec, that doesn't mean they know basketball, or it's realistic, or it isn't cheesy, it's just the way it is. Like any video game, some guys are going to be better than others, whether they know anything about the game or not. Some 5'3" middle school kid might know exactly how to take his shots and have them go in 9/10 times, while some 30 year old who lives with his parents in the guest room might know how to kill 40 mf's using an M16 and he hasn't touched a gun in his life, or his own cable bill.


I try to make sense of it too, but I realize now that this thread could go on for days between dudes who either are or aren't good at playing Rec, arguing about how to do it or who'se cheesing. The funny thing is, most 2K players on OS Sports are either offline players, or sub-par online players. And not that this matters, but a great majority are white kids who actually know this forum exists, when in reality I think out of the best five 2K players over ever seen, 3 are black, 1 is mix, and the last is a white who knows vid games, basketball related or not.

I was just saying in general 2K loves to market themselves as the "#1 basketball sim"...there's only 2 games and this one's better so it's a pretty easy title to just claim.
Go online and you have a team of 7' small forwards (who don't even exist outside of KD and Antetakoumpo) who can dominate. I was saying a normal sized pg should be able to easily strip a 7 footer playing point because that's just how it is.
If you're tall you can't get the ball low like a guard can..there's things like that that 2K doesn't take into account and it creates overpowered positions like we have.

It's even worse to see 7'3 centers taking stepback 3's and hitting em with ease..at first I thought the new career mode attribute changes were a good idea but it seems just unbalanced to hell now.

I just can't give credit to anyone who's "good" at rec or park doing things like that. If they have 1,000 wins and 5 losses (to me) they're still garbage for abusing such cheese like that. And I just can't lower myself to being that way....

I want to win running plays and moving the ball..playing good d (not spamming steal) and outplaying people on knowledge alone...
If it means losing to players that are "better" at cheesing and abusing gigantic versions of MJ in his prime then that's fine lol

And trust me, nothing hurts more than losing to a 7'3 center that in reality is a 13 year old white kid that's really 5'2 and 200 lbs..2K should use the kinect to scan someone's body and real height and force them to play as themself lol.

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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I already argued the validity of the point you made, you know, in the actual thread it was made in. You're too close minded to take anyone else's opinion, so what's the point? Nothing anyone has said in that thread has made you change your rude, arrogant, and condescending tone, so it's basically you just talking to yourself and then taking shots at people for thinking different from your opinion. Then you go on to post the same stuff in other threads that have nothing to do with it in attempts to stir up more stuff. That's basically the exact definition of being an internet troll.

Sorry if you're over-insensitive man, that's just your interpretation of my legitimate points. I wasn't aware that there's a thread-monopoly on giving defensive tips. "Some people are great at rec" because ...yep they turned off "who to guard" arrow aka they know how to rotate aka they have actual basketball iq that translates to the game. Ask any top 10 crew about defensive rotation.

[Jrocc23]

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I've been playing 2K for years and never heard anyone say that. Not turning off your "who to guard" means you don't know how to rotate and don't have basketball IQ? I doubt that's why people are "great" at rec. I mean if you know how to rotate, what's the point of turning it off?

Most people like me don't even notice the thing while in the half court or while people are attacking on offense. Most people use it in transition because some peoples camera angles does not show where their guys are and sometimes players apparel can throw them off.

A big deal over something so little and I am sure doesn't prove someone doesn't have bball IQ.

[DakkoN]

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Sorry if you're over-insensitive man, that's just your interpretation of my legitimate points. I wasn't aware that there's a thread-monopoly on giving defensive tips. "Some people are great at rec" because ...yep they turned off "who to guard" arrow aka they know how to rotate aka they have actual basketball iq that translates to the game. Ask any top 10 crew about defensive rotation.

None of your points have been legitimate because you have a one sided opinion that, as far as I've seen, NO ONE agrees with. You seem to think that all players that play with it just sit and stare at it the entire game, which is clearly not the case. A good defensive player who plays with the arrow will ALWAYS be better than the same skill of defensive player that plays without the arrow. I don't see what's so hard about that to understand. It's like the 4th time it's been said and you keep dismissing it, the arrow lets you do things that certain camera angles do not since you can't turn your character's head.

You can track your man in transition in 2K view when you can't see him otherwise because the camera is facing up the court. You can sag more and help in the paint because you know exactly where your man is to recover.

If you don't see the obvious benefits that it provides, then I'm not sure what to tell you. You apparently thing that people that play with it on just sit and stare at the arrow with tunnel vision without seeing anything else on the court. Which completely goes against the "it's an aid, not a crutch" that multiple people have said to you. Obviously people that use it as a crutch aren't good. But good players that use it as an aid makes them even better. I'm sorry that you're too close minded to realize it.

[ItsJustaGame]

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I've been playing 2K for years and never heard anyone say that. Not turning off your "who to guard" means you don't know how to rotate and don't have basketball IQ? I doubt that's why people are "great" at rec. I mean if you know how to rotate, what's the point of turning it off?

Most people like me don't even notice the thing while in the half court or while people are attacking on offense. Most people use it in transition because some peoples camera angles does not show where their guys are and sometimes players apparel can throw them off.

A big deal over something so little and I am sure doesn't prove someone doesn't have bball IQ.

This dude hit the nail on the head with this little side-debate going on here. Best line: if you know how to rotate then what's the point in turning it off, especially when the arrows react accordingly.

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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the arrow lets you do things that certain camera angles do not since you can't turn your character's head.


You can track your man in transition in 2K view when you can't see him otherwise because the camera is facing up the court. You can sag more and help in the paint because you know exactly where your man is to recover.

Idk what settings you use, but it should be easy as hell without the arrow to rotate back on D. If not, you're using the wrong camera angle for defensive rotation.

You apparently thing that people that play with it on just sit and stare at the arrow with tunnel vision without seeing anything else on the court.

That's exactly what 90% of mypark players do

Which completely goes against the "it's an aid, not a crutch" that multiple people have said to you. Obviously people that use it as a crutch aren't good.

It DOES become a crutch because noobs never get better, never learn defense, because their training wheels are never removed.

But good players that use it as an aid makes them even better. I'm sorry that you're too close minded to realize it.

If visual clutter makes you better, sure...

[Jrocc23]

Some People Are Just Great At Rec

And he calls you "close minded" lol. I'm not even going to waste time on quoting and pointing out the silly points you're trying to make.

It's best to just ignore the guy. The arrows will stay and most people will continue to use them. Since were using made up stats, he's only represents .1% of the people that complain about other users arrows. So I doubt 2K will make that change. One of the silliest posters I've seen on OS.

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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And he calls you "close minded" lol. I'm not even going to waste time on quoting and pointing out the silly points you're trying to make.

'cause there are none to point out...

It's best to just ignore the guy. The arrows will stay and most people will continue to use them. Since were using made up stats, he's only represents .1% of the people that complain about other users arrows. So I doubt 2K will make that change. One of the silliest posters I've seen on OS.

lol Seriously man you need a dictionary. Doubt you know what close-minded means. Close-minded means I'm not even understanding or open to your perspective. Being open-minded doesn't mean you HAVE to agree with the other person, just that you're open to that perspective. Still, so far, I haven't seen any very logical counter-arguments. Sure, noobs or people who don't know basketball need the arrow early on, but if you're a Legend level n still using/needing the arrow for guidance?? c'mon man..

[Jrocc23]

Some People Are Just Great At Rec

If someone's a legend level and if they are still looking at the arrow when the camera doesn't show their guy it means what lol? They don't know how to play the game and don't know basketball lol? Sound super ignorant just because people don't play the game the same way as you do. You're honestly the only person I know that turns theirs off. And I've played against and have been one of the best in a lot of 2K iterations. Nobody ever even brought that up lol.

Telling people they aren't using the right camera etc? Like what lol? Now people aren't that good because of a camera they prefer?

The arrow is staying until you can actually turn your players head and etc. Turn yours off and get over it. Rarely anyone agrees with you.