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  • 2kNerd
    Rookie
    • Jun 2015
    • 188

    #16
    Re: Something is wrong with this game. Durant with 22 points in less than 8 minutes.

    There are some issues with this game, that is for sure. Defense still feels like it is always a step or two behind the offense. Passing can be brutally frustrating at times, and the off-ball behavior of CPU-controlled teammates can often be mind-boggling.

    However, most of the people who play 2K stink on defense. Some of that is linked to the controls, but not all of it.

    The biggest thing I've noticed on defense is how "delicate" and/or precise you need to be with the left and right sticks. If you are one of those guys who jams on the sticks to the point where you hear nothing but "click-clack" sounds...you are going to struggle mightily on defense.

    I feel like defense is very realistic in 2K15 - the problem is offense isn't. There are still too many overpowered offensive tactics that break the game and turn it into something that resembles NBA Jam when put in the hands of a cheesy player hellbent on turbo-ing around like a lunatic.

    The offensive side of things has been dumbed-down and made easy to appease casual players. That's the biggest issue.

    Why bother learning how to do any of the dribble moves and shot types when you can just turbo side-to-side until you get an inch of space to shoot a jumper? Sadly, that is what the majority of players feel.

    It feels like certain exploits are left in the game to serve as a CRUTCH for the average casual or new player. I'm mainly talking about the zig-zag nonsense and the overpowered turbo.

    That said, most players don't spend anywhere near the amount of time practicing their defensive skills that they spend on their offense.

    Personally, I've found that I like to turn Defensive Assistance up to 100%. At first I thought this would give me less control, but after getting used to it - it now feels like I have more.

    One tip I read here at OP a few months ago before I was a member that really helped was to focus on your defensive players feet/footwork. This really helped me. When you start to get a feel for how your player moves his feet, you realize that you don't need to bang on the sticks on defense. And doing so actually is what makes you slide around and get out of position.

    Some people might argue that this is a control issue, especially since you can jam on the sticks and still have complete control on offense most of the time. But that is because offense is overpowered and dumbed-down so casual players can pick up a controller and just start pouring in points with Harden, Curry, LeBron, and Durant.

    If they forced you to be precise and delicate on the sticks when controlling offensive players and out-of-control movements were "penalized" with turnovers they would get nothing but complaints about the game being too hard. However, this is exactly how the game works on the defensive side of the ball.

    One wrong slide or step on defense leaves you open to getting smoked - very much not the case on offense, that's for sure.

    The one thing they really need to fix is the turbo/zig-zag stuff. I actually like the shooting since the last patch, what I don't like is how EASY it is to simply hold turbo and sprint left, right, and even backwards just to clear an inch of space to get an open shot. Even great defense has a difficult time stopping this.

    I don't get why 2K feels the need to make it this easy to get open shots. Especially since they've put in all these other moves that allow you to create space. Making it so easy to get open by simply holding turbo and zig-zagging ruins everything else they've built.

    When you make it so easy to get open playing that way, the game just starts to look like Double Dribble or Lakers Vs Celtics. On top of that, making it that easy to get open gives players ZERO incentive to actually learn the moves and skills to create shots.

    Why bother actually getting better and using the cool features 2K has put in the game when it's super-easy to just zig-zag and launch J's?
    Last edited by 2kNerd; 06-12-2015, 01:38 PM.

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    • 2K15 PC
      Banned
      • Oct 2014
      • 176

      #17
      Re: Something is wrong with this game. Durant with 22 points in less than 8 minutes.

      Originally posted by FedExPope
      I remember dominating my friend a few years ago in 2K11 with Josh Smith. I canned a 28 footer like it was nothing because his release was so easy to master. My friend was like "No ****in way..." It capped off a 36 point game for him on 5 minute quarters. That was the moment when for my offline games I started to use real player %.
      J-Smoove was a beast in 2k14.

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      • Roger_Black
        Rookie
        • May 2015
        • 157

        #18
        Re: Something is wrong with this game. Durant with 22 points in less than 8 minutes.

        Defense needs a lot of work in this game.

        The big problem is that the worst 'defensive mechanics' do not apply to BOTH teams. (Only yours.)

        Notice how the cpu defenders never (or rarely ever) get caught in that annoying 'foot shuffle' animation that moves your player waaaay out of position, when guardian the ball handler.

        I can't remember seeing the cpu get caught in that animation more than once or twice per game.... While it happens to my player at least 5x per quarter without spamming the steal button.

        Also 'foot planting' has zero effect on the cpu.

        On defense, the cpu can run at full speed to stop your fast breaks... then pivot, stop on a dime, or change direction FLAWLESSLY... with zero momentum penalties.

        If 2k is gonna introduce 'foot planting'... they need to ensure that it affects BOTH sides of the ball equally.

        Otherwise, it instantly becomes a (one-sided) 'penalty' that gives the cpu a 'distinct advantage' that WE never get to benefit from, especially in MyCareer mode.

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        • Roger_Black
          Rookie
          • May 2015
          • 157

          #19
          Re: Something is wrong with this game. Durant with 22 points in less than 8 minutes.

          Correction: ^^^ 'guarding the ball handler'.

          (sorry, my auto-correct function on my phone substituted the word 'guardian', in my post above)

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          • tjhamstar
            Rookie
            • Mar 2013
            • 242

            #20
            Re: Something is wrong with this game. Durant with 22 points in less than 8 minutes.

            Yeah, playing defense can be a joke. I particularly hate going for a steal, missing and somehow ending up as a spectator for a few seconds in the first row of the court seats. It's like my player has mops on the bottom of his shoes and he's cleaning the floor while trying to stay in front of his man.

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