Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100% - More Details From Mike Wang

[barrman7]

But why make the green release harder to get AND not 100%? It doesn't make sense to me...

[TalenT]

Re: Green releases are much rarer in NBA 2K16 and also no longer 100%

You know that the harder the shot is, the harder it is to get a perfect release? In our online league, when I take a 3 pointer off the dribble or against a defender, it is hard to even get a yellow release. getting a perfect one there is nearly impossible. But I think that depends on the sliders. We use HoF/Sim...When playing quick match or myteam I guess the sliders are too "easy".

Yeah, I know bro. I'm just sayin' in some cases defense just "shrinks" the blue area of the shot meter and you can still get a perfect release if you have the timing right. The "shot quality" wasn't the greatest but your knowledge of the player's release trumps it.

[yungsta404]

Re: Green releases are much rarer in NBA 2K16 and also no longer 100%

I guess this is cool but I see this leading to a return of people complaining that the perfect release grade doesn't mean anything which was part of the reason they put the shot bar in the game in the first place.


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yup as long as there is shot feedback that gives green/perfect releases, people WILL complain, its unavoidable unless they take it completely out of the game.

If green releases dont have a 100% success shot rate = "I dont make enough wide open green releases"

If you make green releases 100% but you tone down the chances of getting it significantly to adjust the shooting percentages to a realistic rate = "I dont get enough green releases!!"

If you increase the chances of getting green releases while keeping the green release 100% shot success rate mechanic = "shooting percentages are way too high!"

[blackjackbulls]

This is intresting. I see many people at LD2K twitter says they sometimes missed if they had a green release "100%" . I played over 500 games in online one vs one and i can remember that my shots "100%" always going in. Hmm..

green releases are not 100%, they are 99% so it's rare but you can miss them. when you hit a green release it turns that players shot rating from whatever it is to 99.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

I toilet bowl a few shots from three and had a few green releases hit the side of the back board. But I like the old way better anyway . No big deal

[BluFu]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

As long as shot quality is of more importance than shot timing, I think this system will work fine. Open slightly early shots should go in more than a contested perfect release shot (no deadeye).

[mostpured]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

But why make the green release harder to get AND not 100%? It doesn't make sense to me...

Exactly

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[yungsta404]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

I've had my green release blocked a couple of times lol

[NINJAK2]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

But why make the green release harder to get AND not 100%? It doesn't make sense to me...

It will probably make more sense barr once we get a chance to actually play the game and experience it for ourselves. We should all reserve judgement until we get hands on experience and try to avoid jumping to conclusions on how it will or won't work well...

[b1baller]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

I feel as though I make a lot of non green releases anyway, so this wont affect me that much because I max out my shot rating. I think its more about your players shooting rating then anything. If your shooting rating is at a 10 and you get a green release, you shouldn't make that shot.

[sooperb]

I actually don't understand wht we cant get constant green releases if we actually are releasing it perfectly. Some players have shots that some people can master but if they release at the point it is intended for them to release and there is no perfect release then isn't that actually a lie?

Just make it to where we know we are shooting the jumper correctly by making the shot meter CORRECT and CONSISTENT. That shouldnt mean the shot is 100% money, but that you gave your self the best possible chance to hit the shot taken at that moment whether or not it's an open look or contested by 3 defenders.

Can we get an online practice court to learn our jumpshots ONLINE with the slight latency??

[ataman5]

Re: Green releases are much rarer in NBA 2K16 and also no longer 100%

There have been battles even internally over missed green releases, especially now that they're so hard to get. I really think it's an unsolvable problem. The best news I can give you is that our shots engineer has made just about every knob I use to tune shooting modifiable on the server side post release just like a roster update. So if there's something the community isn't happy with I can tweak the system and update your games without the need for a patch. So what happened with patch 4 last year will never happen again.

You are and have always been the man!

[BA2929]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

But why make the green release harder to get AND not 100%? It doesn't make sense to me...

I agree, but I guess we need to just get into the mindset that the shot meter is now nothing but a timing mechanism to get the best chance of a shot to fall. I'll probably end up turning it off in 2k16, as it really serves no point to anything but assisting on timing with weird shooting animations like Shaq free throws or MKG ugly shots.

I think they should tone down the green releases to a small margin and still make them 100%. Perhaps throw in a different color for slight misses.

I'll end up getting used to this, as I always do with changes in sports games, but right now it disappoints me that these changes seem to be made exclusively due to the online audience.

[Ownal0t]

Re: Green releases are much rarer in NBA 2K16 and also no longer 100%

Once the BS this post from the 2k14 RTTP topic is reffering to doesnt happen, i dont care. its funny tho cause even with the meter being in 15 this same **** still happens <_<.

I don't think people are angry about not making every shot, it's just frustrating when you miss a shot like this


and your opponent comes down the court and makes these all game

[jfsolo]

Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

They never should have used the word "perfect" for any shot release.It's an inescapable albatross. It creates, IMO, an erroneous expectation of what should occur, that those shots should always go in. They then made it worse by actually tuning the game to match that expectation. They've now made a logical course correction, but the damage has been done. Many are going to scream bloody murder when any "perfect" shots are missed. The tears are going to be torrential. They should get rid of the word perfect post haste.