NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

[Daddy123]

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[ojandpizza]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

Here's the question, in this new system are those old ratings still going to be applied to those players at those ages with those numbers. If they do then they're undermining their whole system.



The post baseball MJ really is a 92-93 Ovr player. His mythological status makes people want to apply the 99 to him for that time period. The 1987-1992 Mike was the 99 player, the same case can be made for the 2007-2013 LeBron.

I guess we'll see how they are adjusted. They were slightly high compared to more modern stars the past two years, and this new ratings system seemed from the description like it was only going to worsen that. But hopefully not.


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[24ct]

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I still think 94 is fine for his seasonal performance. Again, this is supposed to be an all-time great scale, and 94 is perfectly good for not-pure-peak Lebron whose athleticism has dropped off a bit as well as his shooting and defense. 91 for injured/limited games Durant is also fine on that scale. I'd have Curry with a 91 to 93 on that scale and Harden a 87-90. AD would fall 91-93 and Westbrook 87-89.

If the ratings this year are really supposed to be scaled against all time greats, let's make it actually count instead of giving everyone the usual 95-98's like every season.

What's not fine is the inflated ratings for run of the mill stars. Wall's a bit too high for me though it's not far off. And what's not fine is Kobe only two points lower than John Wall, which effectively makes his rating even HIGHER than last year's which wasn't scaled against greats. That's just ridiculous. The more I think about it the more it's completely unjustifiable.

"He was injured for seasons and actually sucked a little less before he was injured again so let's just pretend he's still great" is not a valid rating methodology.

Vegas doesn't work this way. NBA front offices don't work this way. Sports journalism and analysis doesn't work this way. I don't see why 2K should work this way.

Good post bra. I can respect that answer and these ratings.

[JazzMan]

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I imagine Kobe's defensive ratings and athleticism are way too high. For some reason 2k thinks that he's not a turnstile on defense and can keep up with the top guards in the league.

[The 24th Letter]

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Who's rating did Ronnie raise because they complained about it? I didn't even know Ronnie controlled anything regarding ratings...


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[DC]

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Who's rating did Ronnie raise because they complained about it? I didn't even know Ronnie controlled anything regarding ratings...


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HE doesn't control them but he gives, "I got you" comments to plenty of dudes over the years. Man just follow that man on Tweet. It is sad to see sometimes

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Who's rating did Ronnie raise because they complained about it? I didn't even know Ronnie controlled anything regarding ratings...


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Nah he said he's been arguing with the staff about who's too low trying to get it higher

[DC]

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But I think it is virtually impossible for most to separate legacy from recent production with Kobe. But I do feel legacy has to be considered to a degree.

For example.

If Rajon Rondo and Luke RIdnour shoot and attempt the same amount of 3's this upcoming season (38% on 250 attempts), I don't feel Rondo and Ridnour should have the same exact 3PT rating in 2K17 simply because this is the first season Rondo actually shot the ball well. Ridnour is historically a good shooter so that should be taken into consideration, to a degree.

So you can't just ignore legacy.

[The 24th Letter]

NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

HE doesn't control them but he gives, "I got you" comments to plenty of dudes over the years. Man just follow that man on Tweet. It is sad to see sometimes

That man is doing his job, he's supposed to say that stuff, y'all let him live, lol


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[The 24th Letter]

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Regarding the OVR, think it's much ado about nothing until we see how they're adjusted through the year...


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[DC]

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That man is doing his job, he's supposed to say that stuff, y'all let him live, lol


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Nah, it isn't that simple. If someone wants a boost in a category, they should have to do more than to cry to the "Make an announcement to announce that an announcement is coming" Dude and it happens

[The 24th Letter]

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Nah, it isn't that simple. If someone wants a boost in a category, they should have to do more than to cry to the "Make an announcement to announce that an announcement is coming" Dude and it happens

If ratings are actually being adjusted undeservedly, then I agree...that's why I was asking for an example...

Otherwise I don't like to bash those guys for doing their job....for all the "bad marketing" comments made around here, this is no brainer stuff ....of course you interact with NBA players when they tweet....


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[stillfeelme]

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Well, When it comes to "shot selection" I don't think anyone has worse shot selection then KD and Westbrook, they just make the shots, but from a shot selection stand point they're no bueno.

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KD lol? Are you serious. Now Westbrook I can agree with but KD naw. I don't know what games you are watching.

Did you watch Kobe shoot and shoot and miss and miss contested shot after contested shot?

The difference in shot selection is when you can hit said shots even close to an average rate. Kobe was chucking shots stats which back up the video of what I watched. If he made a decent rate he would be ok but his shots were bad contested shots which he didn't make.

[WaddupCouzin]

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KD lol? Are you serious. Now Westbrook I can agree with but KD naw. I don't know what games you are watching.

Did you watch Kobe shoot and shoot and miss and miss contested shot after contested shot?

The difference in shot selection is when you can hit said shots even close to an average rate. Kobe was chucking shots stats which back up the video of what I watched. If he made a decent rate he would be ok but his shots were bad contested shots which he didn't make.

As someone so eloquently stated earlier in this thread, the shots Steph takes would have had 90% of the players in the league benched.

Just because you make the shot doesn't mean it's not a poorly selected shot. Kobe got away with ridiculously poorly selected shots for years, but now that they're not falling, it's an issue of shot selection, when his shot selection has always been poor.

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[stillfeelme]

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As someone so eloquently stated earlier in this thread, the shots Steph takes would have had 90% of the players in the league benched.

Just because you make the shot doesn't mean it's not a poorly selected shot. Kobe got away with ridiculously poorly selected shots for years, but now that they're not falling, it's an issue of shot selection, when his shot selection has always been poor.

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The shot selection is much worse when he knows, the other team knows and the other players knows he aint making it.

The funny thing about Steph is he shoots almost as good as when contested as when he is open whether off the dribble etc. Steph is just on a totally different planet in term of shooting limitless range. I guess you are talking some of his off the dribble shots are crazy which they are but he makes them.

Kobe shoots some of the most contested shots I have seen.

Kobe last year shot 10 tightly contested jumpers per game

He shot 30.7% on contested jumpers is what I am getting at


Steph last year shot 4 tightly contested jumpers per game

Steph shot 41.2% on contested shots shots.

Kobe shot more contested jumpers in 35 games then Steph did the whole season man.