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  • Mauer4MVP
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    • Mar 2010
    • 2407

    #151
    Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

    Originally posted by VDusen04
    Haha, I forgot there was a Minnesota lifer roaming about these classic threads. My apologies for being a little vague. I was trying to speak from a broad point of view. If I were 2K, I might save some two teams that were/are perceived as legendary, popular, and/or quite notable for their unique style of play or character as my last selections. I don't know if folks would find that '04 Wolves team as fitting that mold.

    We touched on Sam Cassell earlier. He was great that year, but in a pretty unexciting fashion to anyone who wasn't a Timberwolves fan. Latrell Sprewell wasn't dunking on people quite like he was in Golden State and New York. That kind of left Kevin Garnett as the lone source of legit exciting appeal.

    Had the Wolves been NBA Finalists, that probably would have helped their lore (I sometimes imagine how easily those Pistons teams would be written off by people if they never got past the conference finals). But as it stands, I think the 2007 Warriors and 2003 Nets might check off more boxes when it comes to historic team reception. Moreover, I respect your opinion, but I think that '07 Warriors team could be a blast to play with - high tempo, many gunners, Baron Davis' swagger and still exciting hops, golded out Oakland atmosphere, etc.

    I'm with you on the Lakers though. I have little to no interest in seeing, say, the 2009 team being one of the final two. However, knowing the 2008 Celtics, 2008 Rockets, and 2013 Heat all made the list of new clubs, their inclusion would seem to make sense. It'd be a letdown of a final choice, but it seems realistic.

    Edit: On second thought, Kevin Garnett's career winding down could work in the favor of the possibility of a Wolves addition. Offering up a team with prime KG could be a nice homage.
    Haha nah we're good. You make valid points about the Wolves. I just think that with KG being a top 50 player of all time (top 5 in the 2000s), I think people would want his prime season.

    I guess I can see the appeal to the Warriors, just not a big deal to me. I think a big reason is because you have the current Warriors that are so great.

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    • Number999
      MVP
      • Mar 2013
      • 2102

      #152
      Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

      Originally posted by CookNBA03
      Why would it when nobody else in the league attacks the basket like he did?
      I always laugh whenever JUST bring up free throw disparity when you realize that in terms of fouls called, Dallas only had a couple more overall than Miami. We were an attack the basket team (that's kinda what Wade and Shaq do for you), while Dallas was a jump-shooting squad. It'd be like complaining about James Harden getting so many foul calls when he attacks the rim in comparison to a guy like Melo.

      But it's not worth disputing, people believe what they want, lol.
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      • scottyp180
        MVP
        • Jun 2007
        • 2206

        #153
        Originally posted by QB1N
        Spoken like a true Mavericks fan lol...

        I do agree that Wade got alot of calls but thats probably because Im not that big a Wade fan anyway lmao...

        But if you dont think Shaq would destroy Golden State then you're being ridiculous...

        Noone on Golden State can guard Shaquille O'Neal... And "The Glove" on Curry would be very intriguing...

        And thats assuming Alonzo Mourning wasnt in the game as part of a power lineup..
        Like wise Shaq would be useless on defense against golden state once they played small ball. He wouldn't be able to defend Green on the perimeter.

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        • SaruAqua
          Rookie
          • May 2015
          • 145

          #154
          Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

          Originally posted by ZB9
          fyi fwiw the Spurs shot more free throws than Dallas did in that series, and Tim Duncan shot more free throws than Dirk did in that series...

          As far as the '06 Finals, DWade set the all time record for free throw attempts in a finals series and that is a record that is probably not going to be broken any time soon.
          And? He's a top 5 all time slasher who got to the basket at will unlike Dirk who was shooting jumpers and stil averaged 9-10 FT's a game, thus getting exposed by the Heat in the Finals and the Warriors as a 67-15 team in the first round. Him shooting jumpers with Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson guarding him in the post was probably the most pathetic play I've seen from a superstar next to '04 Kobe and '11 LeBron in their respective Finals.


          As for the '06 P/O:


          Wade - 250 FT's in 23 games
          Dirk - 229 FT's in 23 games


          ... Dirk averaged a measly 0.9 less FT's than Wade per game despite mainly being a jumpshooter, albeit a great one.
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          SF: Amythyst Marion/Ruby Joe Johnson
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          C: Diamond Mikan/Ruby Towns

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          • SaruAqua
            Rookie
            • May 2015
            • 145

            #155
            Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

            Originally posted by scottyp180
            Like wise Shaq would be useless on defense against golden state once they played small ball. He wouldn't be able to defend Green on the perimeter.
            You're talking like Green is Dirk Nowitzki or something. He could stretch the floor but he's not a GOAT-level type shooting bigman like Dirk is. It doesn't matter whether Shaq could defend Green or not because Shaq would still make a much greater impact offensively and on the boards.


            As a Heat fan though, I do think that this would be a 7 game series. No one is stopping Curry nor Wade and while GS has greater depth, the Heat's bench isn't too shabby and we would still have the big fella in the paint commanding double/triple teams while being a great passer out of the low post, thus opening up shooters.


            Now if this the "Big Three" Heat instead of the '06 team, the Heat would win in 5/6 since they had the recipe against this Warriors' team and beat an OKC team that was similar in talent to GS, albeit Top Heavy vs Nine/Ten Deep.
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            SG: Ruby Klay/Sapphire Q-Rich
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            C: Diamond Mikan/Ruby Towns

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            • scottyp180
              MVP
              • Jun 2007
              • 2206

              #156
              Originally posted by SaruAqua
              You're talking like Green is Dirk Nowitzki or something. He could stretch the floor but he's not a GOAT-level type shooting bigman like Dirk is. It doesn't matter whether Shaq could defend Green or not because Shaq would still make a much greater impact offensively and on the boards.


              As a Heat fan though, I do think that this would be a 7 game series. No one is stopping Curry nor Wade and while GS has greater depth, the Heat's bench isn't too shabby and we would still have the big fella in the paint commanding double/triple teams while being a great passer out of the low post, thus opening up shooters.


              Now if this the "Big Three" Heat instead of the '06 team, the Heat would win in 5/6 since they had the recipe against this Warriors' team and beat an OKC team that was similar in talent to GS, albeit Top Heavy vs Nine/Ten Deep.
              I don't necesaarily mean Greens shooting touch but more his play style. Dirk, especially back then, was more than happy to settle for jump shots and fallaways. Green, if put at the 5, would spread the court with his shootong but also be able to drive by Shaq. On D it probably would have turned into hack a Shaq. Either way it would be a gold series. I'm not saying the Warriors definitely win but I think Shaq could be a liability as much as he was an asset.

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              • scottyp180
                MVP
                • Jun 2007
                • 2206

                #157
                Originally posted by SaruAqua
                You're talking like Green is Dirk Nowitzki or something. He could stretch the floor but he's not a GOAT-level type shooting bigman like Dirk is. It doesn't matter whether Shaq could defend Green or not because Shaq would still make a much greater impact offensively and on the boards.


                As a Heat fan though, I do think that this would be a 7 game series. No one is stopping Curry nor Wade and while GS has greater depth, the Heat's bench isn't too shabby and we would still have the big fella in the paint commanding double/triple teams while being a great passer out of the low post, thus opening up shooters.


                Now if this the "Big Three" Heat instead of the '06 team, the Heat would win in 5/6 since they had the recipe against this Warriors' team and beat an OKC team that was similar in talent to GS, albeit Top Heavy vs Nine/Ten Deep.
                And to add I definitely think the Big 3 Heat would take the Warriors barring Wades health. If Wade has his old man knees acting up he would struggle on defense.

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                • Real2KInsider
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 4658

                  #158
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                  Originally posted by SaruAqua
                  Fair point. However, do you think the Finals in 2006 was rigged? I don't and I already provided why.
                  I think the officiating was questionable but what it ultimately comes down to is Wade was equipped to abuse Harris/Terry similar to how they abused Finley/Barry.

                  Young Udonis Haslem staying in front of Dirk (which 35-year old Horry couldn't do) was likewise a factor. Dirk had to develop his post game after this series (similar to what LeBron had to do in the 2011 rematch).
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                  • CookNBA03
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 677

                    #159
                    Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                    Originally posted by Rashidi
                    I think the officiating was questionable but what it ultimately comes down to is Wade was equipped to abuse Harris/Terry similar to how they abused Finley/Barry.

                    Young Udonis Haslem staying in front of Dirk (which 35-year old Horry couldn't do) was likewise a factor. Dirk had to develop his post game after this series (similar to what LeBron had to do in the 2011 rematch).
                    LeBron had a pretty decent post game before the '11 Finals, his fadeaway jumper from there was good. He just had to get better but his mental game during that series was downright pathetic though.

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                    • TheVinylHippo
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1007

                      #160
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                      I've done enough bitching about the 2006 Finals. I don't have the will to do it any more. It helps that Dirk, Cuban and Terry exorcised those demons in 2011; me and every other Mavericks fan along with them.
                      Last edited by TheVinylHippo; 09-03-2015, 01:50 PM.

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                      • SaruAqua
                        Rookie
                        • May 2015
                        • 145

                        #161
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                        Originally posted by Rashidi
                        I think the officiating was questionable but what it ultimately comes down to is Wade was equipped to abuse Harris/Terry similar to how they abused Finley/Barry.

                        Young Udonis Haslem staying in front of Dirk (which 35-year old Horry couldn't do) was likewise a factor. Dirk had to develop his post game after this series (similar to what LeBron had to do in the 2011 rematch).
                        I hear you but on your point about Dirk's post game, you have to remember that he struggled even worse against an inferior but bad matchup team like Nelly's Warriors the very next year in the first round due to having a non-existant post game.



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                        • CookNBA03
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 677

                          #162
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                          Originally posted by SaruAqua
                          I hear you but on your point about Dirk's post game, you have to remember that he struggled even worse against an inferior but bad matchup team like Nelly's Warriors the very next year in the first round due to having a non-existant post game.



                          I may be the only person that would actually take '09 Dirk over any other version. His offensive game was complete as I've ever seen it.
                          Not over 2011 PO Dirk.

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                          • mqt
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 162

                            #163
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                            I really hope the Suns roster includes Walter McCarty. Loved that dude in Boston.

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                            • UNcmon
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 110

                              #164
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                              Most random player I'm ready to play with is Q-Rich! That quick shot from 3

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                              • DutchMastah7
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                                • Jun 2011
                                • 957

                                #165
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Adds '04-'05 Phoenix Suns & '05-'06 Miami Heat to List of Classic Teams

                                Just ready to run with these guys.

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