NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

[MoneyOvaHuds]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

As crazy as it sounds, I would probably place Ellis, Matthews and Derozan above him. I just think Wade isn't as athletic as he once was, he isn' the defender he used to be and he just isn't durable anymore.

Those three things should push things in the the younger, more durable and athletic players favor. Unless Matthews can't return from his injury close to his pre-injury level then Wade is likely above him.

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Yes it does sounds crazy cuz Derozan is awful , Ellis is Ellis and Wes unless he comes back to form after that injury then no .

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Yes it does sounds crazy cuz Derozan is awful , Ellis is Ellis and Wes unless he comes back to form after that injury then no .

Never said that Wade wasn't more efficient or not a savvy vet, but he isn't an elite SG anymore (IMO). The position is very, very weak so I could see why some would over look his lack of athleticism and durability. I personally won't though.

The gap between the top 3 (Harden, Thompson & Butler) should be much wider to illustrate the lack of elite or all - star level talent at the position. Of course, all the Wade and Kobe fans would cry on Twitter so instead they are given (what seems to be) artificial attribute boosts.

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[diehardknicksfan]

Neither player has played one single minute in the NBA, so the rookie ratings are just guess work.

I'm surprised that a guy that can't find minutes on an injury depleted team is a 73 overall. Jeremy Lamb hasn't improved one bit since joining the NBA, yet he has a solid role player level rating of 73.

I don't disagree with many ratings other than Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade. Kobe should be much lower (high 70's, IMO) and Wade should be lower on the top 10 list.

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I would hope 2k is using their college and overseas stats and percentages. Instead of just guessing

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

I would hope 2k is using their college and overseas stats and percentages. Instead of just guessing

Not all of those stats, if any other than rebounding, would translate to what they'll do in the NBA.

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[HardenWasRobbedOfMVP]

I'll still say harden is more of a must player than curry. They both should be 93. Then the attributes should tell u the differences so u can pick what type a 93 u want.

Harden was robbed of MVP ...Winshares tell it all

[HardenWasRobbedOfMVP]

2k's ratings are ALOT better than Lives ratings imo

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Wade is perfectly rated lol no need to lower him other than his injury ratings . Stat wise there is no reason to debunk his overall

31 mpg

21ppg
4.8apg
3.5rpg
1.2 spg
6 FTA 76% FT
47% FG

Played in 62 games

Those numbers don't account for his drop in athleticism, efficiency ( losing LeBron effect) and defensive ability. He's still a smart, savvy and intelligent player so that does help him to compensate somewhat. He just can't take over games or dominate any longer like in the past.

A player rated 85+ overall, especially on this supposed "HOF" scale, should be able to dominate and control a game. Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Tony Parker and Derrick Rose are no longer those type of players anymore. And I'm a fan of 3 of those 4 players - one guy playing for my favorite team - so my posts aren't based on "hate" but on the reality of where these guys are at in their respective careers.

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[WISports]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Khris Middleton is so underrated. One of the best 3-point shooters in the league. Also a great defender.

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

A player rated 85+ overall, especially on this supposed "HOF" scale, should be able to dominate and control a game. Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Tony Parker and Derrick Rose are no longer those type of players anymore. And I'm a fan of 3 of those 4 players - one guy playing for my favorite team - so my posts aren't based on "hate" but on the reality of where these guys are at in their respective careers.

86 is perfect for Wade. He still does stuff like this.

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The other guys you named still can take over as well (not as much as they used to obviously).

[CookNBA03]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Those numbers don't account for his drop in athleticism, efficiency ( losing LeBron effect) and defensive ability. He's still a smart, savvy and intelligent player so that does help him to compensate somewhat. He just can't take over games or dominate any longer like in the past.

A player rated 85+ overall, especially on this supposed "HOF" scale, should be able to dominate and control a game. Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Tony Parker and Derrick Rose are no longer those type of players anymore. And I'm a fan of 3 of those 4 players - one guy playing for my favorite team - so my posts aren't based on "hate" but on the reality of where these guys are at in their respective careers.

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Lol come on now. Wade has always been an efficient player even before LeBron came here, the only thing that's changed is that he has to take more shots that are more difficult and he still shoos 47%. His man to man defense is still solid but his transition/off-ball has taken a hit. You said he can't take over games which leads me to believe that you haven't watched last season while he lead the league in scoring in the 4th quarter. He took over so many games like at NYK, vs DET, vs POR, vs CLE, and many other games.

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Lol come on now. Wade has always been an efficient player even before LeBron came here, the only thing that's changed is that he has to take more shots that are more difficult and he still shoos 47%. His man to man defense is still solid but his transition/off-ball has taken a hit. You said he can't take over games which leads me to believe that you haven't watched last season while he lead the league in scoring in the 4th quarter. He took over so many games like at NYK, vs DET, vs POR, vs CLE, and many other games.

How many games did the Heat win, again? Yeah, yeah, they lost Bosh and McRoberts for a significant amount of time. Another big part of why they lost is because Wade isn't an elite player anymore. He was able to get a far less talented Heat team to the playoffs in 2010, but he was still in his prime back then. This is why attribute ratings and overall are always going to be up for debate. People always want to protect and hold onto who their favorite player used to be. Wade and Bryant aren't those guys anymore and the game should better reflect that fact.

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[CookNBA03]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

How many games did the Heat win, again? Yeah, yeah, they lost Bosh and McRoberts for a significant amount of time. Another big part of why they lost is because Wade isn't an elite player anymore. He was able to get a far less talented Heat team to the playoffs in 2010, but he was still in his prime back then. This is why attribute ratings and overall are always going to be up for debate. People always want to protect and hold onto who their favorite player used to be. Wade and Bryant aren't those guys anymore and the game should better reflect that fact.

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How many games we won is irrelevant when we're talking soley about Dwyane but since you brought it up, let's discuss it. Our projected lineup to start the season NEVER logged a single minute together then Josh got hurt after already coming into the season hurt. Wade goes down with the hammy and it was was like a chain reaction. Talk to me when the Spurs have to fill the 4 and 5 spots with Henry Walker and Michael Beasley and see how many games they win.

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

Wade and Bryant aren't those guys anymore and the game should better reflect that fact.

You think these guys in there prime would be rated 86 and 85? Lol

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

You think these guys in there prime would be rated 86 and 85? Lol

No, but an 85 or 86 rating indicates that they are still elite players at their position. When in actuality they need to be dropped further back into the pack of other "****ty" shooting guards. Both are still quality playmakers for the position, but in every other facet both are lacking in key areas (athleticism, durability, efficiency, shooting, etc.) that comprise what an elite SG should be.

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[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Shooting Guards (UPDATED)

How many games we won is irrelevant when we're talking soley about Dwyane but since you brought it up, let's discuss it. Our projected lineup to start the season NEVER logged a single minute together then Josh got hurt after already coming into the season hurt. Wade goes down with the hammy and it was was like a chain reaction. Talk to me when the Spurs have to fill the 4 and 5 spots with Henry Walker and Michael Beasley and see how many games they win.

The Spurs have filled spots with mediocre/fringe talent plenty of times such as DeJuan Blair, Gary Neal, Roger Mason Jr., Keith Bogans, Malik Hairston, Cherokee Parks, Matt Bonner, Richard Jefferson, Francisco Elson, etc. They still managed to win 50+ games every season and never missed the playoffs during the Duncan/Popovich era.

Anyway, none of that changes the fact that the Heat stunk last season and Wade isn't an elite/franchise player anymore. He can't control or dominate a game a both ends like once before and is undeserving of an 86 overall at this point in his career. Neither is Tony Parker and I'm completely against his rating of 83.


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