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  • DakkoN
    All Star
    • Sep 2006
    • 5611

    #721
    Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

    The issue that has been in since launch (metallic material reverting to rubber on the shoe) which applies to all shoes isn't the same as this one where even when things are set to rubber, they still appear shiny.. It's an issue with scanned shoes and is honestly just laziness. The shoes have just been scanned in, made the color panels editable and then nothing else, without applying the material shaders. They're using default shaders of whatever is on the shoe that was scanned.
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    • Chargers_Are_The_Bes
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 1447

      #722
      Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

      Originally posted by DakkoN
      The issue that has been in since launch (metallic material reverting to rubber on the shoe) which applies to all shoes isn't the same as this one where even when things are set to rubber, they still appear shiny.. It's an issue with scanned shoes and is honestly just laziness. The shoes have just been scanned in, made the color panels editable and then nothing else, without applying the material shaders. They're using default shaders of whatever is on the shoe that was scanned.

      I wouldn't call it laziness. They materials look nice imo. For example I made Raptor 7's and the suede for the looks nice. I also made the raging bull 5's and the Red suede is almost identical to the real life shoes. But that's just me lol


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      • TheKnicks7Melo15
        Banned
        • Sep 2015
        • 52

        #723
        Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

        Originally posted by DakkoN
        The issue that has been in since launch (metallic material reverting to rubber on the shoe) which applies to all shoes isn't the same as this one where even when things are set to rubber, they still appear shiny.. It's an issue with scanned shoes and is honestly just laziness. The shoes have just been scanned in, made the color panels editable and then nothing else, without applying the material shaders. They're using default shaders of whatever is on the shoe that was scanned.
        Here's what the problem is I think. When they scan the shoe versus how 2k use to previously do it, the scan is off that model and colorway so if you have shiny foamposite you can't have suede foamposite unless the scan the suede foamposite, I believe every colorway has to be scanned if they have different materials. The foamposite is one shoe they have run into this issue with. The Jordan 11 for instance is good because all the colorways are the same materials, the christmas 72-10 sneaker will need a new scan because it has different materials from existing models, I wouldn't call this laziness but more an oversight, they need a dedicated shoe guy like myself to handle this situation. SeanBarkley is pretty thorough as well.

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        • KidHypeTellem
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          • Sep 2008
          • 435

          #724
          Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

          Originally posted by TheKnicks7Melo15
          Here's what the problem is I think. When they scan the shoe versus how 2k use to previously do it, the scan is off that model and colorway so if you have shiny foamposite you can't have suede foamposite unless the scan the suede foamposite, I believe every colorway has to be scanned if they have different materials. The foamposite is one shoe they have run into this issue with. The Jordan 11 for instance is good because all the colorways are the same materials, the christmas 72-10 sneaker will need a new scan because it has different materials from existing models, I wouldn't call this laziness but more an oversight, they need a dedicated shoe guy like myself to handle this situation. SeanBarkley is pretty thorough as well.
          This is it. The DLillard1s for example, they scanned the new ones he'll wear this season, but both have link certain areas together making it difficult to accurately create the older versions.

          On another note, they need to fix the crazy light boost 2015s tried to make James hardens or but the logo on the tongue is linked to the collar so can't change the color.

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          • DakkoN
            All Star
            • Sep 2006
            • 5611

            #725
            Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

            Originally posted by TheKnicks7Melo15
            Here's what the problem is I think. When they scan the shoe versus how 2k use to previously do it, the scan is off that model and colorway so if you have shiny foamposite you can't have suede foamposite unless the scan the suede foamposite, I believe every colorway has to be scanned if they have different materials. The foamposite is one shoe they have run into this issue with. The Jordan 11 for instance is good because all the colorways are the same materials, the christmas 72-10 sneaker will need a new scan because it has different materials from existing models, I wouldn't call this laziness but more an oversight, they need a dedicated shoe guy like myself to handle this situation. SeanBarkley is pretty thorough as well.
            You're exactly right about it only using the materials of the one they scanned with. But if that's going to be the case going forward, they either need to have the material change option actually work, or take it out altogether.. I made 3 different foamposites for testing, the only difference being changing every single layer on them to Rubber on pair 1, Suede on pair 2, Shiny Plastic on pair 3.. All 3 pairs looked exactly the same in game because of what you just said. If the material changing isn't going to be reflected in game, the option should be disabled.
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            • TheKnicks7Melo15
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              • Sep 2015
              • 52

              #726
              Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

              Originally posted by DakkoN
              You're exactly right about it only using the materials of the one they scanned with. But if that's going to be the case going forward, they either need to have the material change option actually work, or take it out altogether.. I made 3 different foamposites for testing, the only difference being changing every single layer on them to Rubber on pair 1, Suede on pair 2, Shiny Plastic on pair 3.. All 3 pairs looked exactly the same in game because of what you just said. If the material changing isn't going to be reflected in game, the option should be disabled.
              Well I've always said that the editing process needs to be scrapped. Just take a hint from NBA LIVE 10 and scan like 500 sneakers, I know it's a lot but we wouldn't need any of this made up stuff or edit process, it will work for now but please get a dedicated person to handle this. We have the answer right now so there's really no need to keep pushing error after error going forward.

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              • DakkoN
                All Star
                • Sep 2006
                • 5611

                #727
                Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                I disagree, only because making custom shoes for career/park/pro-am is my favorite thing to do in the game.
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                • TheKnicks7Melo15
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                  • Sep 2015
                  • 52

                  #728
                  Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                  Originally posted by DakkoN
                  I disagree, only because making custom shoes for career/park/pro-am is my favorite thing to do in the game.
                  I respect that and your entitled to feel that way, I play nothing but play now and association modes. I must ask tho why making shoes is your favorite thing to do rather then playing the game?

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                  • BlakkMajik3000
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 185

                    #729
                    Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                    As has been suggested before, they just need a program where sneaker heads can send in shoes to be scanned in the game. Most of the posts in this thread are about colorways that already exist.


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                    • TheKnicks7Melo15
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 52

                      #730
                      Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                      Originally posted by BlakkMajik3000
                      As has been suggested before, they just need a program where sneaker heads can send in shoes to be scanned in the game. Most of the posts in this thread are about colorways that already exist.


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                      That word again, "sneaker head", I don't like this idea at all. I bet it's easier for 2k to get the shoes then for random "sneaker heads" to get their shoes to 2k site.

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                      • MarvinOida
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 4859

                        #731
                        OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                        Originally posted by TheKnicks7Melo15
                        I respect that and your entitled to feel that way, I play nothing but play now and association modes. I must ask tho why making shoes is your favorite thing to do rather then playing the game?

                        You're missing his point.

                        He wants his player to rock his OWN PEs, his OWN creations, not the same Breds, not the same color ways, not the same shoes.

                        He and what I want is ORIGINALITY. I could care less about scanned shoes, I want an improved shoe editor and shoe creator.

                        The point of the shoe creator was to fill the gap that 2K didn't fill with missing shoes and original creations and now with these scanned shoes, people are spoiled now cause obviously they made shoes and some inferior looking to others.

                        If you looked from 2K13-15, we were making shoes that looked amazing, we made shoes that looked like in game models and now with these scanned shoes, and no care for the creator, it's a shame.


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                        Last edited by MarvinOida; 10-24-2015, 08:14 PM.

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                        • TheKnicks7Melo15
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                          • Sep 2015
                          • 52

                          #732
                          Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                          Originally posted by MarvinOida
                          You're missing his point.

                          He wants his player to rock his OWN PEs, his OWN creations, not the same Breds, not the same color ways, not the same shoes.

                          He and what I want is ORIGINALITY. I could care less about scanned shoes, I want an improved shoe editor and shoe creator.


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                          Not missing the point, I understand and appreciate his point but I have the opposite point of view on this, I want more scanned shoes and less editing and less shoe creator ideas, I mean I've seen these threads since day one and I don't see the creativity or originality from it, the guys who create shoes don't look good to me but that's only my opinion.

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                          • MarvinOida
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 4859

                            #733
                            Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                            Originally posted by TheKnicks7Melo15
                            Not missing the point, I understand and appreciate his point but I have the opposite point of view on this, I want more scanned shoes and less editing and less shoe creator ideas, I mean I've seen these threads since day one and I don't see the creativity or originality from it, the guys who create shoes don't look good to me but that's only my opinion.

                            That's because scanned shoes made everybody spoiled and the creator is broken and is not cared for.

                            I guarantee you if 2K asked me and a couple guys on how to improve the shoe creator and editor, we wouldn't EVEN NEED to scan shoes.


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                            • Oaklandboy
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1183

                              #734
                              Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                              Originally posted by MarvinOida
                              That's because scanned shoes made everybody spoiled and the creator is broken and is not cared for.

                              I guarantee you if 2K asked me and a couple guys on how to improve the shoe creator and editor, we wouldn't EVEN NEED to scan shoes.


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                              Hey Marv I agree with you.

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                              • TheKnicks7Melo15
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 52

                                #735
                                Re: OS NBA 2K16 Shoe Vault - Discussion

                                Originally posted by MarvinOida
                                That's because scanned shoes made everybody spoiled and the creator is broken and is not cared for.

                                I guarantee you if 2K asked me and a couple guys on how to improve the shoe creator and editor, we wouldn't EVEN NEED to scan shoes.


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                                I hear you but don't agree. I hope they fix that for ya'll tho.

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