missed layups

[kobethelegend]

Re: missed layups

What's the definition of insanity? At some point, you just have change your game plan and recognize that the game engine is what it is. Either you adapt or you don't. Defensive minded players had to deal with the overpowered offense for years, but you can't change your mentality and approach about your shot attempts?

this mentality will have us set back for years in gaming if everyone thought like this. "oh well it is what it is."

nope, i paid my money. and therefore i reserve the right to explain something i dont think is realistic or should be corrected in this installment not 2k17. THIS ONE.

if you want to just "take it" fine by you. that is your decision and i dont fault YOU for it. But i would have to ask, why post in a thread like this if you think that way? I really would like to know.

See there's one thing to post in here and say guys i know what you're talking about so here's how you remedy the issue even while still going up for dunks/layups, etc. perhaps there's a certain way you shoud hold the right stick. could be something else.

[diehardknicksfan]

Re: missed layups

Has anyone here not seen iman shumpert play

Dude misses layups all the time. It can happen to anyone

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: missed layups

this mentality will have us set back for years in gaming if everyone thought like this. "oh well it is what it is."

nope, i paid my money. and therefore i reserve the right to explain something i dont think is realistic or should be corrected in this installment not 2k17. THIS ONE.

if you want to just "take it" fine by you. that is your decision and i dont fault YOU for it. But i would have to ask, why post in a thread like this if you think that way? I really would like to know.

See there's one thing to post in here and say guys i know what you're talking about so here's how you remedy the issue even while still going up for dunks/layups, etc. perhaps there's a certain way you shoud hold the right stick. could be something else.

My point is that there's this misconception where people think ESPN highlights are the norm for a NBA video game. The common theme for most of these complaints are people are upset about the results, but they're not taking the time to analyze the steps they took to get there. Another theme is that people have the chance to practice to get better, use the advice being offered, or sliders to change the outcome of their actions, but they don't want to. The final theme is that some people are playing at a level that's above their stick skills.

Now, you're saying you're missing open layups left and right. In my mind, that makes you an outliner to this "problem". If you're missing that often, then I stop questioning the game, and I begin to wonder about the stick skills of the individual.

Based on what you're saying, it just sounds like your shot selection needs some work. Also, it sounds like you're wanting an arcade experience while playing on the highest level possible. Either you want a challenge, or you don't. Which is it?

[DocHolliday]

Re: missed layups

Use the mid air adjustment if you get met. It works.


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[TheVet1978]

Re: missed layups

Either you want a challenge, or you don't. Which is it?

What is it with this guy? Lol. Gimme a break.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: missed layups

What is it with this guy? Lol. Gimme a break.

Well, do you want a challenge or not? Playing and beating the game on HOF isn't much of an accomplishment, if you're nerfing what makes it challenging in the first place.

[apollooff320]

Re: missed layups

don't mind missing shots and layups but when the CPU doesn't miss open shots like I do then that's a problem. Or when I see them making ridiculous layups that are cheesy as hell.

[pack4life69]

Re: missed layups

this mentality will have us set back for years in gaming if everyone thought like this. "oh well it is what it is."

nope, i paid my money. and therefore i reserve the right to explain something i dont think is realistic or should be corrected in this installment not 2k17. THIS ONE.

if you want to just "take it" fine by you. that is your decision and i dont fault YOU for it. But i would have to ask, why post in a thread like this if you think that way? I really would like to know.

See there's one thing to post in here and say guys i know what you're talking about so here's how you remedy the issue even while still going up for dunks/layups, etc. perhaps there's a certain way you shoud hold the right stick. could be something else.

We comment in this thread because if 2k doesnt see a dissenting opinion on the matter they will nerf it. This is based on recent history with 2k patches. We paid our money too and dont want this to get the 2k15 patch 4 effect.

If all 2k sees are complaints about layups, shooting, and onball defense then they will assume thats what the majority of players feel like so they will adjust it to make it easier.

Players who like seeing a good defense only having two options: 2k11 and 2k16. People who want to play with overpowered offense can then go play any of the other versions of 2k or any version of Live.

Half the people complaining are playing on HOF and wonder why the computer is overpowered.

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[TheVet1978]

Re: missed layups

We comment in this thread because if 2k doesnt see a dissenting opinion on the matter they will nerf it. This is based on recent history with 2k patches. We paid our money too and dont want this to get the 2k15 patch 4 effect.

If all 2k sees are complaints about layups, shooting, and onball defense then they will assume thats what the majority of players feel like so they will adjust it to make it easier.

Players who like seeing a good defense only having two options: 2k11 and 2k16. People who want to play with overpowered offense can then go play any of the other versions of 2k or any version of Live.

Half the people complaining are playing on HOF and wonder why the computer is overpowered.

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One. More. Time. Good defense, hopefully, doesn't require CPU warping and sliding, bumping w/ no call like it's the NFL. That's not simulation basketball.

[pack4life69]

Re: missed layups

One. More. Time. Good defense, hopefully, doesn't require CPU warping and sliding, bumping w/ no call like it's the NFL. That's not simulation basketball.

There have been two games that had good defense and that is 2k11 and 2k16. Both these games have higher amount of bumping then the other games so it does appear this is required to produce a good defensive game.

If you dont like it you have multiple other versions of 2k or Live to play. Unfortuneatly us who like defense dont have a whole lot of options. Dont nerf the one good defensive game we got because its not as easy to score as past iterations.

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[manu1433]

Re: missed layups

There have been two games that had good defense and that is 2k11 and 2k16. Both these games have higher amount of bumping then the other games so it does appear this is required to produce a good defensive game.

If you dont like it you have multiple other versions of 2k or Live to play. Unfortunately us who like defense dont have a whole lot of options. Dont nerf the one good defensive game we got because its not as easy to score as past iterations.

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People like you are as much a part of the problem as the people who want to cheese you to do death.

I guess 2k shouldn't look to improve their gameplay at all. They should make the AI cheesier and cheesier to artifically inflate the difficulty.

According to your logic, they can't simply make the gameplay better by actually improving they AI to behave more realistically. People are looking for a basketball simulator. They aren't looking for offensive line simulator 2k16.

Most of the people who are complaining just want a more realistic experience and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: missed layups

People like you are as much a part of the problem as the people who want to cheese you to do death.

I guess 2k shouldn't look to improve their gameplay at all. They should make the AI cheesier and cheesier to artifically inflate the difficulty.

According to your logic, they can't simply make the gameplay better by actually improving they AI to behave more realistically. People are looking for a basketball simulator. They aren't looking for offensive line simulator 2k16.

Most of the people who are complaining just want a more realistic experience and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Well, offensive-minded players got their way for 4 out of the past 5 games...defensive-minded players can't get 1 more?

[hiyadi]

Re: missed layups

the layups are fine in my imo.

even the legend chamberlin had 72% of field goals % in his career

last year was deandre jordan was number one with 71% but behind him it's more about 57 to 50%

lebron had 48% same as tony parker and curry .

and if you look deeper in the stats the % of fg made less than 5feet(layup) it's only 65% for the best team ...

[TheVet1978]

Re: missed layups

the layups are fine in my imo.

even the legend chamberlin had 72% of field goals % in his career

last year was deandre jordan was number one with 71% but behind him it's more about 57 to 50%

lebron had 48% same as tony parker and curry .

and if you look deeper in the stats the % of fg made less than 5feet(layup) it's only 65% for the best team ...

Staying true to stats doesn't necessarily mean that you have simulation basketball...It's the TYPE of layups that you miss in this game VS REAL LIFE. I think you're missing the point.

[manu1433]

Re: missed layups

Well, offensive-minded players got their way for 4 out of the past 5 games...defensive-minded players can't get 1 more?

I'm a "defensive minded player" myself. (whatever that means in 2k terms)

And if you were truly good at defense you'd want them to lighten up the AI bumping as it just makes it easier for bad players to cheese you and play off the ball -.-