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  • dxyyz1
    Rookie
    • Jun 2013
    • 152

    #1

    3 pointers better than midrange now?

    Is anyone else getting better shot grades on open 3s than on open midrange shots now?
  • Caelumfang
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1218

    #2
    Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

    Yep, that's the very first thing I noticed when I started playing games after the first shooting adjustment. It's kind of absurd to me, to tell you the truth.

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    • Hustle Westbrook
      MVP
      • Jan 2015
      • 3113

      #3
      Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

      Had a game where I shot 11/20 from 3.

      But my opponent was playing zone and leaving me wide open all game so maybe that's why.
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      • Quentin32
        Pro
        • Sep 2015
        • 546

        #4
        Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

        2k had a tuner patch?

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        • dxyyz1
          Rookie
          • Jun 2013
          • 152

          #5
          Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

          Originally posted by Quentin32
          2k had a tuner patch?
          Yea mike wang talked about it earlier this week.
          Last edited by dxyyz1; 10-09-2015, 11:24 AM.

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          • Beluba
            Gameplay Director, NBA2k
            • Jul 2002
            • 1389

            #6
            Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

            You can't rely solely on the grades to assess which is a better shot. Shot grading is done on a sliding scale (so a 50% shot from 5 feet is a much lower grade than 50% from 30 feet.)

            For a shooter with an equal 3PT and mid-range rating, a wide open 3 is higher % than a contested middie. But an open middie is still higher % than an open 3.

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            • Caelumfang
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1218

              #7
              Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

              Prior to the tuner patch, an open midrange could net you an A- to and A+. Now the average is a B- to a B, with the rare B+, while open 3s average a B+ to an A.

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              • Caelumfang
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 1218

                #8
                Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                Originally posted by Beluba
                You can't rely solely on the grades to assess which is a better shot. Shot grading is done on a sliding scale (so a 50% shot from 5 feet is a much lower grade than 50% from 30 feet.)

                For a shooter with an equal 3PT and mid-range rating, a wide open 3 is higher % than a contested middie. But an open middie is still higher % than an open 3.
                That's the way it should be, but I've been testing this on wide open, no one even close to me midranges and threes. And, no exaggeration, I'm averaging consistently higher grades on open 3s than open middies.

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                • DonWuan
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1756

                  #9
                  Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                  I run an efficient offense so I haven't seen a difference

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                  • TaylorBoi
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 188

                    #10
                    Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                    What Beluba said doesn't make sense to me honestly. I noticed getting higher grades on open 3's than open mid ranges as well. It's kind of backwards IMO but it is what it is I guess.

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                    • Luke Skywalker
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 917

                      #11
                      Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                      Beluba (Mike Wang), for Offline: Simulation vs Default sliders, how does the shot grade vary between the Midrange Success slider being set on 45 opposed to 50?

                      Hope this makes sense so I will know how to adjust my sliders.

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                      • Beluba
                        Gameplay Director, NBA2k
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1389

                        #12
                        Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                        Originally posted by TaylorBoi
                        What Beluba said doesn't make sense to me honestly. I noticed getting higher grades on open 3's than open mid ranges as well. It's kind of backwards IMO but it is what it is I guess.
                        I think that's what you guys might be misunderstanding.

                        A higher grade does NOT necessarily mean a higher % shot when you're comparing shots in different ranges.

                        As an example, the grade to % chance mapping might look like this:
                        "A" at 5 feet = 80% shot
                        "A" in mid-range = 60% shot
                        "A" in 3PT range = 40% shot

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                        • kevroman
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 67

                          #13
                          Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                          Originally posted by Beluba
                          I think that's what you guys might be misunderstanding.

                          A higher grade does NOT necessarily mean a higher % shot when you're comparing shots in different ranges.

                          As an example, the grade to % chance mapping might look like this:
                          "A" at 5 feet = 80% shot
                          "A" in mid-range = 60% shot
                          "A" in 3PT range = 40% shot
                          Makes perfect sense.. Thanks Beluba!

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                          • dxyyz1
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 152

                            #14
                            Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                            Originally posted by Beluba
                            I think that's what you guys might be misunderstanding.

                            A higher grade does NOT necessarily mean a higher % shot when you're comparing shots in different ranges.

                            As an example, the grade to % chance mapping might look like this:
                            "A" at 5 feet = 80% shot
                            "A" in mid-range = 60% shot
                            "A" in 3PT range = 40% shot
                            That explains why ppl arent seeing A quality midranges anymore thx for the explanation.

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                            • EarvGotti
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2249

                              #15
                              Re: 3 pointers better than midrange now?

                              Thanks for the explanation Mike.

                              Good stuff as always!
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