Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

[trandoanhung1991]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

Post videos. We see nothing but stats.

We don't know WHAT type of shots you are taking.
We don't know if you are really OPEN.
We don't know the momentum of the game.
We don't know the fatigue of your players

We need more info before we side with you

Post videos. It is 2015 man

So 3 players who have <75 3pt ratings makes a total of 6 out of 7 3pt attempts is normal for you?

Even though I see an average of ~30% from 3pt for players who have around 75 rating.

As for my shot percentage, it might be due to my shot animation causing me to shoot on the line quite a bit, which has abysmal percentage. I'll need to test further before coming back to you on that.

[DC]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

I am simply saying to post videos of the misses that are happening. We need visual evidence. You can't make a claim in any realm of this world without evidence. The stat sheet is not enough, I explained right above. We need context of the shots taken. Saying the rating and showing a box score is NOT enough.

Don't test and not provide evidence because we will remain at square one.

[Crookid]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

If you wait until you're hot, you literally can't miss. Just shot 80% from down town, but don't feel bad. Carroll shot 9-9 from downtown hitting fade-away and turn around threes, lol. Oh, and I miss like 19 out of 20 shots in off-day practice, but I'm a beast on the floor because I wait until I'm hot.

They need to nerf shooting percentages badly. Everything goes in and if you know how to work your rhythm, you will end games shooting 75% just like post patch 3 in 2k15.

I don't like this at all. I just won a game by shooting 70% and the CPU shot 65% and the next game against the Cavs we lost by the exact reverse of those shooting percentages.


I keep saying this but people want to argue. Shooting percentages and shot makes on both ends (player and CPU) need to be nerfed ASAP.

[DC]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

So 3 players who have <75 3pt ratings makes a total of 6 out of 7 3pt attempts is normal for you?
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Nah it isn't normal, it is fluke. Show me this happening frequently. One game of that happening won't make me say the 3pt shooting is BROKEN.

[Sundown]

Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

This is at least the 3rd or 4th thread I've seen on this forum where ppl complained about shooting, and 3pt. Shooting in general. I agree with the OP. Unlike some have requested, I don't need to see any videos to know it's broken. I already experienced exactly what he's talking about. I play with the Warriors and Curry and Klay misses easy open 3s a little bit to often for my taste. At this point I've come to accept it. 2k can claim sim this and sim that all that want, but IMO this game is not even remotely close to sim basketball. It's a video game and I look at it as such.

This is offline, but I just made 3/3 with Curry in a half (6 min quarters) and even made one off the dribble behind a Bogut pick that actually went into a contested animation.

How often do you expect Curry and Klay to miss open threes? You do realize they miss half or more of their open threes in reality, right?

The open three percentage feels very sim to me. What is your percentage?

I do think the step back mechanic is "broken" if you use the one where you hold left stick with the shot. It grades like a moving shot even if you imitate it from a standstill, though it should be a rhythm shot for someone like Curry and only a bit less accurate than shooting off the dribble in place. In fact if you chain a shot from any other dribble back animation they get significantly higher grades, but the actual open step back is heavily penalized. The highest I can get is a B- with Curry and its uncommon.

Also OP is on HOF, which throws out any semblance of realism. Agreeing with someone playing on HOF about shooting is like agreeing with someone on Rookie Casual about dunks being too easy. Of course you also have someone who claims HOF shooting is too easy in the same thread.

[DC]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

How often do you expect Curry and Klay to miss open threes? You do realize they miss half or more of their open threes in reality, right?
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Folks don't know that, which is probably the root of the complaints

[Cavs2016]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

I'm playing on SS sim and I'm having no problems shooting at a 40% clip with my 80ish three point rating. I can't shoot that well with my lesser players from three. My point is, 3 point shooting is perfect for me on SS sim.

If you're playing on HOF it's not going to be realistic for you or the CPU. iys not realistic on rookie either. Difficulty matters. If you want realism, HOF won't give you that, as won't Rookie.

[Crookid]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

This is offline, but I just made 3/3 with Curry in a half (6 min quarters) and even made one off the dribble behind a Bogut pick that actually went into a contested animation.

How often do you expect Curry and Klay to miss open threes? You do realize they miss half or more of their open threes in reality, right?

The open three percentage feels very sim to me. What is your percentage?

I do think the step back mechanic is "broken" if you use the one where you hold left stick with the shot. It grades like a moving shot even if you imitate it from a standstill, though it should be a rhythm shot for someone like Curry and only a bit less accurate than shooting off the dribble in place. In fact if you chain a shot from any other dribble back animation they get significantly higher grades, but the actual open step back is heavily penalized. The highest I can get is a B- with Curry and its uncommon.

How about this for proof? Lol and try not to ignore it when it doesn't support your argument.

https://youtu.be/9qEzOyOUshA (Carroll's box score is at the end of the replay.)


P.S. Take note my other thread that I dominate on HOF and want shots nerfed for us as well. Way too many shots go in and waiting to get hot or other variables don't seem to affect the CPU.

[DC]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

How about this for proof? Lol and try not to ignore it when it doesn't support your argument.

https://youtu.be/9qEzOyOUshA (Carroll's box score is at the end of the replay.)


P.S. Take note my other thread that I dominate on HOF and want shots nerfed for us as well. Way too many shots go in and waiting to get hot or other variables don't seem to affect the CPU.

That is a got damn shame............

[Sundown]

Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

How about this for proof? Lol and try not to ignore it when it doesn't support your argument.

https://youtu.be/9qEzOyOUshA

P.S. Take note my other thread that I dominate on HOF and want shots nerfed for us as well. Way too many shots go in and waiting to get hot or other variables don't seem to affect the CPU.

Single games aren't very good sample sizes but I'm not actually disagreeing with you-- because HOF is a jacked mode and programmed accordingly, so any claims that its not realistic is going to fall on deaf ears until the devs change their philosophy on it.

I'm responding to the user that agrees with the op about shooting but is using HOF as an example, and one you have completely opposite experiences with.

Why don't you just turn down shooting sliders for both user and CPU? It should at least help for CPU since HOF is literally a massive shooting boost that you seem determined to play. And if you're shooting too well, then turn yourself down as well.

[Cavs2016]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

There are games in real life where Steph Curry shoots 2/13 or 2/10 from three and some other bum on the other team shoots 5/5 from three. Context, momentum, hot/cold matters etc. it happens in real life. One can't just cherry pick games, but rather one needs to look at the season as a whole.

[Cavs2016]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

How about this for proof? Lol and try not to ignore it when it doesn't support your argument.

https://youtu.be/9qEzOyOUshA (Carroll's box score is at the end of the replay.)


P.S. Take note my other thread that I dominate on HOF and want shots nerfed for us as well. Way too many shots go in and waiting to get hot or other variables don't seem to affect the CPU.

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of 2k players cannot dominate HOF like you said you could. I know that I get my butt kicked every time and that I find buckets come by, good looks and all.

I don't think 2k should nerf percentages just because one player can dominate HOF. You're probably one of very few.

Why not just adjust the sliders yourself?

[Crookid]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of 2k players cannot dominate HOF like you said you could. I know that I get my butt kicked every time and that I find buckets come by, good looks and all.

I don't think 2k should nerf percentages just because one player can dominate HOF. You're probably one of very few.

Why not just adjust the sliders yourself?

You can't adjust sliders in MC. I wish I could.

I don't think I am the minority TBH. I just think a lot of people that dominate, don't post on forums. Just look at a majority of YTers. They might not be at my level (:P), but they are still taking over games with 88 overall.

Good posts/replies from most of you and you all are right. Right now, the HOF philosophy and increasing the difficulty philosophy simply isn't "the higher you go, the harder it is to hit shots and the more realistic the games are". Hopefully, one day that will change.

Until then, I am definitely going to post what I don't like. It's the only way that one day that might happen. Getting 15 steals a game in HOF because of pick pocket being OP, or shooting 80% is just ridiculous.






And that's with an 88 overall. What's going to happen when I'm capped?

P.S. That example is actually nowhere near how badly FG%s usually are in my games.

[Crookid]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

There are games in real life where Steph Curry shoots 2/13 or 2/10 from three and some other bum on the other team shoots 5/5 from three. Context, momentum, hot/cold matters etc. it happens in real life. One can't just cherry pick games, but rather one needs to look at the season as a whole.

Exactly! I wish this were the case for even myself. But, games still play out like an arcade--How fast can you score.

I want games where we win because we went small and shot 45% from down town. I want games where we lose because we got killed on rebounds. I want games where we win because our post up game was better. I want games where we lose because our star ran cold. I want games where we win because we played very good defense. All this because shooting percentages are tight in the 40s and every high percentage shot matters. Currently, you have people complaining they are accidentally laying up the ball on a 2 on 1 because they wanted to backup to the three point line. This is not basketball.


Not because momentum shifted and the CPU starts taking brainfart shots to execute back-end calculations.

[Cavs2016]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

You can't adjust sliders in MC. I wish I could.

I don't think I am the minority TBH. I just think a lot of people that dominate, don't post on forums. Just look at a majority of YTers. They might not be at my level (:P), but they are still taking over games with 88 overall.

Good posts/replies from most of you and you all are right. Right now, the HOF philosophy and increasing the difficulty philosophy simply isn't "the higher you go, the harder it is to hit shots and the more realistic the games are". Hopefully, one day that will change.

Until then, I am definitely going to post what I don't like. It's the only way that one day that might happen. Getting 15 steals a game in HOF because of pick pocket being OP, or shooting 80% is just ridiculous.






And that's with an 88 overall. What's going to happen when I'm capped?

P.S. That example is actually nowhere near how badly FG%s usually are in my games.

Well damn lol. You are too good lol. I have no idea how. And I forgot that you were playing my career. My bad