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  • Guys_WhoGame
    Rookie
    • Oct 2015
    • 147

    #46
    Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

    Game is great offline, but online is just embarrassing. If you try to play sim you will lose most of the time. I lost a my team game from a guy just sprinting down the court, and for some reason everyone is open off of an inbound pass. You also have players randomly falling down which i think might have something to do flopping. Game is great offline 10/10 best basketball sim ever, but online 2K has to do better. Spend more time on gameplay and less on forgettable storylines.

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    • sirjam
      MVP
      • Oct 2002
      • 3535

      #47
      Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

      Originally posted by Guys_WhoGame
      Game is great offline, but online is just embarrassing. If you try to play sim you will lose most of the time. I lost a my team game from a guy just sprinting down the court, and for some reason everyone is open off of an inbound pass. You also have players randomly falling down which i think might have something to do flopping. Game is great offline 10/10 best basketball sim ever, but online 2K has to do better. Spend more time on gameplay and less on forgettable storylines.
      Great offline? 10/10? Are u kidding me? Do u watch nba basketball? Or did u jus get the game? I was thinking that to until I had it for a week and the shiny paint started to come off revealing the true paint. If ace did as advertised I might be closer to agreeing but as of now it might be a 6 on the sim scale as far as hardcore gameplay goes, No bells and whistles to divert your attention. Jus bare bones it's a 6

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      • apollooff320
        Banned
        • Oct 2007
        • 1456

        #48
        Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

        Originally posted by Guys_WhoGame
        Game is great offline, but online is just embarrassing. If you try to play sim you will lose most of the time. I lost a my team game from a guy just sprinting down the court, and for some reason everyone is open off of an inbound pass. You also have players randomly falling down which i think might have something to do flopping. Game is great offline 10/10 best basketball sim ever, but online 2K has to do better. Spend more time on gameplay and less on forgettable storylines.
        game plays better online then offline IMO but that's when you fine players that play without using the turbo button 100% of the time. CPU cheats the user to much to say the game is better offline.

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        • prestwood90
          Banned
          • Nov 2013
          • 1253

          #49
          Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

          If ace is fixed and players seem to get smarter this will be my favorite sports game ever......the depth of this game is incredible

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          • CujoMatty
            Member of Rush Nation
            • Oct 2007
            • 5445

            #50
            Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

            Can someone explain what Gatorade is used for in the game? Just curious. Does it apply to mycareer? Mypark? Pro am? Cant seem to find much info.

            I'm curious because playing pro am and my park I'll be having the best time and then all of a sudden I'll go a whole night of not being able to make a shot. I can't dribble 2 feet without losing the ball and every shot getting blocked or missing wide open shots.

            This is my first year putting any substantial time into online modes so I'm curious if the veterans have any insight. When it's good pro am is incredible but when it gets like how my whole night last night went it seriously makes me not want to even try.
            2016 NLL Champion Saskatchewan Rush
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            • sirjam
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 3535

              #51
              Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

              Originally posted by prestwood90
              If ace is fixed and players seem to get smarter this will be my favorite sports game ever......the depth of this game is incredible

              Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
              I agree. I'm convinced after really testing today that there is a double team bug. Which could be good news bc I think it can be fixed. So now it's jus sit and wait

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              • DonWuan
                MVP
                • Oct 2010
                • 1756

                #52
                Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                Ai is so fing dumb. Its obviously intentional, cpu cant keep up if it werent for issues.

                What i thought was cpu skills was just horrible cpu teammates. Cant imagine what yall go through online.

                Only if the honeymoon could last forever.

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                • Nza
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3437

                  #53
                  Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                  I find directional passing is pretty infuriating this year, more so than usual. I try to remember to only use button passing (the rb thing) but sometimes revert to left-stick aiming and the pass button, and then often witness some ridiculous interpretation of what I had intended play out. It rarely seems to be intuitive in situations where the game has to determine which player I was aiming for. Maybe it's just me.

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                  • tessbegg
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 42

                    #54
                    Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

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                    • sirjam
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 3535

                      #55
                      Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                      Originally posted by Nza
                      I find directional passing is pretty infuriating this year, more so than usual. I try to remember to only use button passing (the rb thing) but sometimes revert to left-stick aiming and the pass button, and then often witness some ridiculous interpretation of what I had intended play out. It rarely seems to be intuitive in situations where the game has to determine which player I was aiming for. Maybe it's just me.
                      Czar actually did a vid on this thing. YouTube daczar. It's a good vid.

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #56
                        Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                        Originally posted by DonWuan
                        Ai is so fing dumb. Its obviously intentional, cpu cant keep up if it werent for issues.



                        What i thought was cpu skills was just horrible cpu teammates. Cant imagine what yall go through online.



                        Only if the honeymoon could last forever.

                        You've been talking about the honeymoon being over since like day 2 though, lol

                        Still going strong for me, especially online....

                        PNO, Park/Pro Am with OSers has been great



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                        • Luke Skywalker
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 917

                          #57
                          Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                          I was like that at first, but once I learned the mechanjcs, I am dominating. What actually made me a better player vs CPU offline was playing All Star Team Up online. Find a group of guys who play organized basketball (ball movement, no ball hogging and strategy) like I have, and it makes you a way better player. So much fun!

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                          • Nza
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3437

                            #58
                            Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                            Originally posted by sirjam
                            Czar actually did a vid on this thing. YouTube daczar. It's a good vid.
                            "Tutorial on Passing and Pass Targeting Fundamentals"? Thanks, it was really good. I had a bit of a "ahah!" moment when he talked about aiming away from guys in the post (towards an area of the court with no one there, but closest to the post player), because I'd probably have usually tried aiming at them.

                            Still, there are moments where it really isn't intuitive. I totally get that the game is doing the best it can with the input you give it, but perhaps such a mechanical approach (i.e. closest to left stick) isn't the best approach.

                            For instance, does a typical right handed gamer have consistent accuracy across the entire 360 degrees of their left thumb stick? Perhaps certain regions need to favor a particular direction than the other, even if technically the degree isn't closest to that direction.

                            Is this something that is very personal? Perhaps the game needs to perform some sort of machine learning that adapts itself to your style. It would need a way to receive feedback on how it is doing in real time, but there could be a clever mechanism for that. Or perhaps just collecting a whole bunch of data in QA on what the human player thought was the intuitive result despite what the raw debug data (as Da_Czar mentioned in his video) said is the best way. After all, it is humans playing this, so if there happens to be a quirk in how a typical human delivers input to a left stick that tends to create an expectation in opposition to what an algorithm being fed raw data thinks, then it's arguably good UI design to detect this and do what the human thought should happen, instead.

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                            • DonWuan
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1756

                              #59
                              Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              You've been talking about the honeymoon being over since like day 2 though, lol

                              Still going strong for me, especially online....

                              PNO, Park/Pro Am with OSers has been great



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                              Playing on pc. Tried a few games but its nothing pretty on PC.

                              I do enjoy the game but if my Center stands out of bounds one more time I might shoot him.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #60
                                Re: i want and try to enjoy this game

                                Originally posted by DonWuan
                                Playing on pc. Tried a few games but its nothing pretty on PC.

                                I do enjoy the game but if my Center stands out of bounds one more time I might shoot him.

                                Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
                                I hear you, lol.....I've had about enough of my teammates bailing out the offense with w\ a foul after :20 of great D at times...hopefully a patch irons some of this out...

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