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  • pslieber
    Nak Muay
    • Oct 2005
    • 146

    #31
    Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

    Very happy to see this thread. Well, not 'happy' to see others concur there is limited defense, rather to have it acknowledged a bit off.

    For the life of me, I can't stop opposition from magically blowing by seemingly good on-ball defense...then the would-be help.

    Live does a pretty good job in extending player contact a smidgen, accompanied by a controller rumble to acknowledge it. Almost like a trainer on where to stand, how to move (based on controller feedback). I'm sure 2K can easily put something similar into the game.

    A bit OT, but NHL could also greatly benefit from a similar feedback mechanism on stick lifts.

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    • RobTheGreat21
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 49

      #32
      Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

      it seems like the defense is not the same as it was during launch. i know that they tweaked it because it is no where the same.

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      • DmaXmius101
        Banned
        • Sep 2015
        • 53

        #33
        Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

        You can't teach people how to play..but can give advice and tips, because everyone has different playing style.

        1. Cover the area and the defender at the same time(helping out teammates)
        2. Play for defending not stealing the ball(like OG said arm length)
        3. Force the ballhander to certain spot(trap)
        4. Lol..talk to yourself while playing.

        But some flaws need to be patch(SS sim)

        A. Help defense awareness( transition defense)
        B. AI dribbling has to be tone down..tired of the traffic dribbling collision.
        C. Lateral quickness
        D. A new simulation sliders(for higher levels)

        There's nothing wrong with this game.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21789

          #34
          Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

          Originally posted by BA2929
          This video from Sam Pham might help out some of you who are having trouble with defense:

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tY2F-MesvwU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY2F-MesvwU
          Thank you for this. Sam Pham is a great teacher (along with Da Czar) of everything 2K and this video has shed some light for me in offline MyLeague play.

          I was getting highly frustrated with the lack of help defense and piss poor paint defense. So much I actually have not played and am waiting for a major patch.

          However I went ahead and employed his advice in never ever using "Neutral Defense" in POE's and instead always use either "protect the paint" or limit outside shots" (whatever it's called)

          It has made a difference. Also really diving in and making custom changes to how you play each player.

          The game demands this. It really does. I have come to the realization that you must customize your defensive settings for every player you face on every team you play or you will run into issues.

          This is not a casual game. It is a basketball simulation.

          I was really frustrated like many of you with defense this year. But they went deeper with individual settings. More so than 2K15. You need to really use all the tool made available to get this game playing the way you want on the defensive side of the ball.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21789

            #35
            Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

            Originally posted by DmaXmius101
            You can't teach people how to play..but can give advice and tips, because everyone has different playing style.

            1. Cover the area and the defender at the same time(helping out teammates)
            2. Play for defending not stealing the ball(like OG said arm length)
            3. Force the ballhander to certain spot(trap)
            4. Lol..talk to yourself while playing.

            But some flaws need to be patch(SS sim)

            A. Help defense awareness( transition defense)
            B. AI dribbling has to be tone down..tired of the traffic dribbling collision.
            C. Lateral quickness
            D. A new simulation sliders(for higher levels)

            There's nothing wrong with this game.
            Big time. A patch is still needed to tone down rocket passes into the paint..half court etc. And the help defense awareness needs to be tuned in a big way. Too many times my guys leave their man and leave them wide open and the AI exploits it all day.

            But using the tools has really helped me to get a grasp of defense on 2K16. It's a different game than 2K15 (which I thoroughly enjoyed too BTW).
            Now Playing on PS5:
            CFB 26 Hurricanes/Fresno State Year 2
            MLB The Show 25 - 2025 Yankees Year 1
            MLB The Show 25 1985 Yankees Year 1
            Oblivion Remaster



            Follow me on Twitch
            https://www.twitch.tv/armorandsword

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            • Nathan_OS
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 4463

              #36
              Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

              Originally posted by GisherJohn24
              I'm not seeing run and gun. Although transition D sometimes seems weak. Still seeing realistic FG %. I found some fantastic sliders I downloaded from the community. If you play offline go check out some sliders. Use the point of emphasis too. Seems to help me
              Whose sliders are you using?

              Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
              PSN: MajorJosephx

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #37
                Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                Anybody had problem with ppl literally turboing through them almost?its like it doesn't matter if I cut them off
                #1 Laker fan
                First Team Defense !!!

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #38
                  Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                  Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                  Anybody had problem with ppl literally turboing through them almost?its like it doesn't matter if I cut them off

                  Push the right stick toward when they're doing that

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #39
                    Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                    What does that do ? That's better than pressing L2?
                    #1 Laker fan
                    First Team Defense !!!

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #40
                      Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                      That Pham video is nice!!

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #41
                        Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                        @Rockie

                        I use it a long side LT since I play with def assist at 0.

                        I guess its technically "shading" according to the manual

                        It reminds me of how the CPU completely stops you in place when trying to turbo, lol. Of course its not as powerful as that, and they can break out of it....but when they're literally trying to turbo through you it helps a lot. IF they try to pull up in your face while your doing it a lot of times you'll get a strip.

                        I can show you better than I can tell you...I recorded a clip of it last night that I will post when I get home.

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                        • GisherJohn24
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4583

                          #42
                          Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                          Originally posted by Nathan_OS
                          Whose sliders are you using?

                          Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

                          I'll get you the gamer tag.tomorrow. But if you go to load sliders it's one of the most downloaded. Like 5000 downloads . Has 2kpro in the name. But I'll find out tomorrow for you.

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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
                            Lockdown Defender
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 9621

                            #43
                            Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            @Rockie

                            I use it a long side LT since I play with def assist at 0.

                            I guess its technically "shading" according to the manual

                            It reminds me of how the CPU completely stops you in place when trying to turbo, lol. Of course its not as powerful as that, and they can break out of it....but when they're literally trying to turbo through you it helps a lot. IF they try to pull up in your face while your doing it a lot of times you'll get a strip.

                            I can show you better than I can tell you...I recorded a clip of it last night that I will post when I get home.
                            Forced a few turnovers with that good look
                            #1 Laker fan
                            First Team Defense !!!

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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #44
                              Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                              Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                              Forced a few turnovers with that good look

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                              • shadio5
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 793

                                #45
                                Re: is there DEFENSE in this game???

                                offline/default gameplay


                                OK here we go. Time to expose this madness....as you can see that barnes hands are going THREW the ball my friends. Mediocre I tell you. This happens a lot with the comeback cheese glitch & shot clock cheese. Enough with the madness 2k...please, I'm asking as a friend







                                VC/2k sports fan

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