Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

[Basketball Nate]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

I only use basic dribble moves and the subtle left stick jabs to throw the CPU off and create seperation so I can pull up for easy uncontested shots. Rarely, do I look for complete blow by opportunities in the half court, even with elite ball handlers unless the CPU is cheating heavily to one side and his help defense is too far stretched to collapse. Ball movement and hitting your guys circling around those high strong side perimeter screens is still the best way to score in this game, even post patch.

[Reggie548]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Your condescending tone is amazing.

Did you watch the videos? Did i say anything but except one move? I didn't mention behind the backs or in and outs? No i said the killer cross.

THEN i proved 2k can just take over my controller whenever.

I'm not talking about "advanced"moves or claim anything about how superior i am at anything. In fact i tried to throw a disclaimer saying I'm not spamming or even the best player!

I brought up the killer cross and tried to throw you a bone with how easy it is to NOT EVEN BE USING THE RIGHT STICK for them to take over my controller.

Get your self righteous head out of your own *** 23 and contribute to the debate.

You see my post count. I know how it goes around here. But there WASN'T a term besides broken.

It just got real in here.

[The 24th Letter]

Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Your condescending tone is amazing.

Did you watch the videos? Did i say anything but except one move? I didn't mention behind the backs or in and outs? No i said the killer cross.

THEN i proved 2k can just take over my controller whenever.

I'm not talking about "advanced"moves or claim anything about how superior i am at anything. In fact i tried to throw a disclaimer saying I'm not spamming or even the best player!

I brought up the killer cross and tried to throw you a bone with how easy it is to NOT EVEN BE USING THE RIGHT STICK for them to take over my controller.

Get your self righteous head out of your own *** 23 and contribute to the debate.

You see my post count. I know how it goes around here. But there WASN'T a term besides broken.

Don't have an issue with you bo....but this threads purpose isn't for a debate....you posted a thread stating your issue, that threads still open, as are some others talking about similar issues ones are having....would've been more constructive to add the videos you posted there....

as far as crossing out of a size up, I've been pretty successful with it- unless this isn't the move you're talking about.

https://vid.me/0e1Y

EDIT: is this more of what you mean?

https://vid.me/ZzKB

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Watched the video, all he does is talk. He doesn't break down what he's actually doing to get those Moves.

He's using basic dribble moves and chaining them together in sync with the way his defender is leaning.

Dribble moves this year is like a fighting game.

If you can't time your dribble move with the way the defender is leaning and then time your layup or dunk, then you gonna be stuck.

Like he said, slower is better.

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Also, the gold dribble badges are worthless in a halfcourt setting.

That's not what they are for. They are for moving in transition.

In a half court setting, what you would want to use is basic dribble moves, combined with a size up and the left stick cross or the simple crossover or spin.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Also on the quick cross, the difference between this year and last year is if you point the stick toward he ball hand it'll do this slow dribble...don't know if it's by design.

You have to point it more toward the basket to launch...

[23]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Your condescending tone is amazing.

Did you watch the videos? Did i say anything but except one move? I didn't mention behind the backs or in and outs? No i said the killer cross.

THEN i proved 2k can just take over my controller whenever.

I'm not talking about "advanced"moves or claim anything about how superior i am at anything. In fact i tried to throw a disclaimer saying I'm not spamming or even the best player!

I brought up the killer cross and tried to throw you a bone with how easy it is to NOT EVEN BE USING THE RIGHT STICK for them to take over my controller.

Get your self righteous head out of your own *** 23 and contribute to the debate.

You see my post count. I know how it goes around here. But there WASN'T a term besides broken.

Unfortunately for you, You forgot to not violate the TOS, and I was never debating anything with you.

[23]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

I've seen videos where, for instance, Pham talks about which moves are linked to which direction on the stick, and then he shows a bunch of examples of those moves. That hasn't really helped me.

The only video I've seen that really made an immediate difference was someone who uploaded a video that showed a certain kind of Iso Move (I believe it was Turbo + Back & Left/Right, depending on which hand the ball's in) that was effective in getting by opponents. The trick was, you needed to wait to change directions until the ball had returned to the original hand, and THEN you could explode out of the move. Otherwise, it didn't really work. Again, it's apparently about timing.

You're getting a little hung up on the idea of "seeing the sticks," as I think someone talking through their moves like the example above could be equally as helpful. But sure, let me try again:

I'd like to watch someone play because –*and again, I don't know for sure, but I've read it on this board – there's apparently some sort of timing to chaining the ankle breaking moves, and I'm not getting it. So, using the example above, if I could see the sticks (or, like in one Youtuber's video, he put up graphical representations of the controller), and get a better idea of when to change directions, chain a different move, hit turbo, let GO of turbo, etc etc etc.

I don't know what else there is to say about it, man. I've put in plenty of time; more than some, less than others. And I'm not ordering anyone to go upload a video for me or anything, I'm just offering an example of what I think might help me learn.

Im NOT hung on anything

My point is, while they could add tutorials it probably takes away from dev time, and secondly there are a ton of tutorials online if you're serious about learning.

I pulled up one video in an instant, and while you may not get it with that one, there may be one for you if you look for it.

Its obvious that everyone is NOT struggling with moves as an example the video showed this as well, and what the thought process was.

Only way to lab these things are in blacktop mode unfortunately

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

In a half court setting, what you would want to use is basic dribble moves, combined with a size up and the left stick cross or the simple crossover or spin.

This.

I wish I would have digured this out earlier, would have saved me a lot of stress.

[torpidbeaver]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Im NOT hung on anything

My point is, while they could add tutorials it probably takes away from dev time, and secondly there are a ton of tutorials online if you're serious about learning.

I pulled up one video in an instant, and while you may not get it with that one, there may be one for you if you look for it.

Its obvious that everyone is NOT struggling with moves as an example the video showed this as well, and what the thought process was.

Only way to lab these things are in blacktop mode unfortunately

Thanks, yeah, I'll keep looking, and I've picked up a few things from some of those videos. I never assumed everyone else was having as much trouble as I was with it, but given some of the responses in this thread (and others), it seems like I'm not the only one.

It also seems like 2K have had better dribbling tutorials in the past, and still made pretty good games. Maybe this year, they needed all of those man hours on the gameplay or whatever. Like you, I'd trade better gameplay over a tutorial every day. But I'm not so sure it's always that simple.

[TheDuggler]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

as far as crossing out of a size up, I've been pretty successful with it- unless this isn't the move you're talking about.

https://vid.me/0e1Y

EDIT: is this more of what you mean?

https://vid.me/ZzKB

I said it before, but guys don't want to see this as an example of good dribbling. They think if ankles aren't broken that their moves aren't working.

That first video is what any player should expect out of great dribbling 99% of the time, a decent run to the rim with the defender not in good position.

[Sleepy59]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Well, I'm post patch and this just happened to me.

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[JoFri]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Well, I'm post patch and this just happened to me.

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it seems like u were holding RS when changing direction imo. when on the drive and if u want to change direction, flick the right stick while continue pointing yor left stick towards the basket. i find it effectice when i tab turbo (not hold) + flick right stick. it works fine for me pre and post patch.


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[sirjam]

Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

Well, I'm post patch and this just happened to me.

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Yeah I get those stutter animations to. Also for those of you that wanna do things like in the tutorial video. Just drop down on ball defense for the CPU. If you don't the CPU will bump you and not bite on your fakes as much.

[JoFri]

Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

the back dribble is quite effective too. personally, i prefer tabbing turbo and right stick away from defender. u can do this by left stick away from defender without turbo too. once the defender bite a bit, tab turbo with left stick to the non ball hand to blow by. if the defender manage to cut yor lane, tab turbo and flick right stick to non ball hand.




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