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  • TheDuggler
    Pro
    • Sep 2012
    • 728

    #31
    Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

    Originally posted by DJ
    I can't seem to get the size-up moves to work ... any tips?
    Holding down RT and flicking the right stick in a direction? That should work, if not check and see if you changed your control scheme

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #32
      Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      Definitely agree...as much as 2k changes those two aspects of the game, I think they owe us some detailed tutorials..lol

      I'm all for bringing post practice back, since that's pretty hard to lab 5 on 5
      Should be but there are a ton on youtube nowadays. Almost no excuse not to see tutorials out there, and probably better than what 2k would give you since it comes from regular guys just like us



      Originally posted by TheDuggler
      Holding down RT and flicking the right stick in a direction? That should work, if not check and see if you changed your control scheme

      Yep thats it

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      • Scofield
        Pro
        • May 2014
        • 523

        #33
        Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

        Originally posted by 23
        and probably better than what 2k would give you since it comes from regular guys just like us
        I don't agree. If there were say a semi-equivalent approach to what Daczar has done for play design (not only laying what the sets are but also the intent behind the design) for controls it would be far and away more helpful than relying on other gamers. No matter how good we get we'll never be able to break the mechanics down the way they can/could.

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #34
          Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

          Actually 23 has a point, they can sometimes provide a bit more perspective than the 'official' videos- still think the game could use more tutorials/modes though....

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          • torpidbeaver
            Pro
            • Mar 2010
            • 636

            #35
            Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

            Originally posted by Whomario
            In that spirit: I´d love to have the in-game tutorials/drills from years ago back. Simply a 1:1 drill with a cpu defender of your choosing with the game advising you on some drible-move combinations and stuff.

            Same goes for post moves ...
            Yeah, or a little window like the shot feedback window that tells me how close I was to correctly timing the Iso move or chained move.

            Even if 2k's dead set on sticking to a non interactive video, at least show me a little graphic or split screen of the controller that can relate a sense of the timing I need to have to correctly pull off a move.

            Speaking of, I really wish I could see Pham's or 24's controllers as they pull off these amazing moves. It's cool to see that it's possible to break someone's ankles, but I could really use a better sense of HOW they do it. I'd even love it if someone narrated what they're doing with the sticks, and how it should respond on screen or how it's reacting on the screen - why they chose the move based on the defender's positioning or whatever.

            Anyway, that's my $.02.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #36
              Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

              Originally posted by torpidbeaver
              Yeah, or a little window like the shot feedback window that tells me how close I was to correctly timing the Iso move or chained move.

              Even if 2k's dead set on sticking to a non interactive video, at least show me a little graphic or split screen of the controller that can relate a sense of the timing I need to have to correctly pull off a move.

              Speaking of, I really wish I could see Pham's or 24's controllers as they pull off these amazing moves. It's cool to see that it's possible to break someone's ankles, but I could really use a better sense of HOW they do it. I'd even love it if someone narrated what they're doing with the sticks, and how it should respond on screen or how it's reacting on the screen - why they chose the move based on the defender's positioning or whatever.

              Anyway, that's my $.02.

              You dont stare at your controller as you play, so why do you

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              • torpidbeaver
                Pro
                • Mar 2010
                • 636

                #37
                Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                Not sure what you mean. I don't stare at my controller while I play, so why do I?

                Did you mean... "They don't stare at their controllers, so why do I?"

                I'm saying I'd enjoy watching a Youtube video of someone showing, either graphically or with animation or however it might be possible, how and when they manipulate the sticks, and how that should/does translate in-game.

                Since that's probably not going to happen, I'm also saying I'd very much enjoy videos from those same Youtubers narrating why they chose one move over another, and hopefully talk about the timing needed to pull off those moves, when they hit a stick to chain a move, etc.

                Does that make sense?

                Again, I feel the need for something like this outside of the game because 2K does a piss poor job of telling me what I'm doing right and wrong, dribbling the ball.
                Last edited by torpidbeaver; 11-26-2015, 01:38 AM.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #38
                  Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                  Originally posted by torpidbeaver
                  Not sure what you mean. I don't stare at my controller while I play, so why do I?

                  Did you mean... "They don't stare at their controllers, so why do I?"

                  I'm saying I'd enjoy watching a Youtube video of someone showing, either graphically or with animation or however it might be possible, how and when they manipulate the sticks, and how that should/does translate in-game.

                  Since that's probably not going to happen, I'm also saying I'd very much enjoy videos from those same Youtubers narrating why they chose one move over another, and hopefully talk about the timing needed to pull off those moves, when they hit a stick to chain a move, etc.

                  Does that make sense?

                  Again, I feel the need for something like this outside of the game because 2K does a piss poor job of telling me what I'm doing right and wrong, dribbling the ball.
                  Why do you want to see their sticks as they are showing off the moves?

                  There are a bunch of tutorials that explain which way they swing the sticks and when they do it. Just a matter of taking the time to learn it

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                  • ataman5
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2620

                    #39
                    Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                    I definitely would like to have more in-game tutorials for sure and i'm all agreeing qith you guys.

                    But the thing is you can lab every bit pf move in freelance practice yes even the post moves because in real life the way players practice their moves, footwork, shooting etc is mostly all by themselves or with a shade d so what i mean as i also practiced back in time in real life you can always pull and work on your moves as there is a defender, same goes for post up, dribling, shooting etc etc.

                    All you need is a set of mind and a framework and repetition of them. Most people don't really know what practice does really mean so they waste time without something or someone leading them.

                    Again i'm all for more ingame tutorials..


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                    Last edited by ataman5; 11-26-2015, 03:49 AM.

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                    • torpidbeaver
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 636

                      #40
                      Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                      I've seen videos where, for instance, Pham talks about which moves are linked to which direction on the stick, and then he shows a bunch of examples of those moves. That hasn't really helped me.

                      The only video I've seen that really made an immediate difference was someone who uploaded a video that showed a certain kind of Iso Move (I believe it was Turbo + Back & Left/Right, depending on which hand the ball's in) that was effective in getting by opponents. The trick was, you needed to wait to change directions until the ball had returned to the original hand, and THEN you could explode out of the move. Otherwise, it didn't really work. Again, it's apparently about timing.

                      You're getting a little hung up on the idea of "seeing the sticks," as I think someone talking through their moves like the example above could be equally as helpful. But sure, let me try again:

                      I'd like to watch someone play because –*and again, I don't know for sure, but I've read it on this board – there's apparently some sort of timing to chaining the ankle breaking moves, and I'm not getting it. So, using the example above, if I could see the sticks (or, like in one Youtuber's video, he put up graphical representations of the controller), and get a better idea of when to change directions, chain a different move, hit turbo, let GO of turbo, etc etc etc.

                      I don't know what else there is to say about it, man. I've put in plenty of time; more than some, less than others. And I'm not ordering anyone to go upload a video for me or anything, I'm just offering an example of what I think might help me learn.

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                      • bo.jangles344
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1007

                        #41
                        Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                        I'm pissed because i thought i posted in this thread days ago.


                        The biggest issue i have is the "killer" cross is so ineffective this year. It was Toned down last year but not as bad. These moves are done with all the badges against the cpu at 82 ball control.



                        This one is on my other guard I've been working on trying to get his ball handling up to 90 since 82 was the culprit i thought. This is 90 speed and 87 handling

                        https://youtu.be/tdx9qhIApzU this is me trying to turn the corner. I'm trying to flat out use my speed to get around the defense. The game literally stops me dead in my tracks.

                        Yes, I'm holding turbo. Yes I'm pressing the stick in one direction. Any other bright ideas?

                        Yes dribbling is Absolutely broken because they can take over your controller whenever they want. There are safe guards in place for over dribbling, i get it.

                        But If there's a badge for killer cross then don't just act like that command doesn't work anymore, that's lame.

                        If you've run With me you know i complain a LOT about how my dribbles break. This is proof they just throw wrenches into your spokes instead of rewriting the controls to take things out.

                        I'm not a dribble spammer, a cheeser, or anything. I'm upset that this is 2 years in a row they've just burned guards With nerfing they're dribbles and Speed.
                        Last edited by bo.jangles344; 11-26-2015, 03:06 PM.

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                        • Hustle Westbrook
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 3113

                          #42
                          Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                          Dribbling is easier for me now. I've started incorporating the normal dribble moves with the sizeups now as opposed to just the sizeups alone which is what I was doing earlier.

                          I can't blow by everyone every play but when it's late in the shot clock and I need to make something happen it's easier to do so.
                          Check out my YouTube channel for NBA 2K16 MyTeam and Play Now Online gameplay videos!

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                          • bo.jangles344
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1007

                            #43
                            Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                            Originally posted by 23
                            OS's own jerseymade just made a dribbling tutorial ironically

                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XIxa6MGJDgQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


                            Watched the video, all he does is talk. He doesn't break down what he's actually doing to get those Moves.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #44
                              Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                              Dribbling is not broken good lord must you use that word when you dont know something? Stop embellishing your struggles

                              The point is, people are doing things just fine, that video is just one example. Maybe you arent as advanced as you think you are, thats the point.

                              You can play the game without trying to cross people over all game, use basketball knowledge to get by your guy, angles, ball movement, fakes, screens and sometimes attack the foot he has to move laterally with instead of his lead foot.

                              You can do anything from basic to advanced moves in this game but you don't need them all to win. Over the years guys have developed bad habits and need to learn how to shake them

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                              • bo.jangles344
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 1007

                                #45
                                Re: Anyone NOT struggling with dribble moves?

                                Your condescending tone is amazing.

                                Did you watch the videos? Did i say anything but except one move? I didn't mention behind the backs or in and outs? No i said the killer cross.

                                THEN i proved 2k can just take over my controller whenever.

                                I'm not talking about "advanced"moves or claim anything about how superior i am at anything. In fact i tried to throw a disclaimer saying I'm not spamming or even the best player!

                                I brought up the killer cross and tried to throw you a bone with how easy it is to NOT EVEN BE USING THE RIGHT STICK for them to take over my controller.

                                Get your self righteous head out of your own *** 23 and contribute to the debate.

                                You see my post count. I know how it goes around here. But there WASN'T a term besides broken.

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