Fix Kawhi Leonard Please!

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Fix Kawhi Leonard Please!

When Jordan left, the Bulls lost a whopping 2 more games. Jordan had several seasons as a non title contender. My point is, you name a title team and most times theres multiple hall of famers and certainly multiple all stars with very very few exceptions. The only one comes to mind are the Wallace Pistons.

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My point was that Kwahi was traded to a team full of future HOF players and a HOF Coach...hence the *.

[downsouth]

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My point was that Kwahi was traded to a team full of future HOF players and a HOF Coach...hence the *.

And so does every nba champion.
Ask Larry about his team full of future hofers.

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[ksuttonjr76]

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And so does every nba champion.
Ask Larry about his team full of future hofers.

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Dude, do I really have to teach you NBA History? There's being drafted to an ideal situation, then there's developing into an ideal situation.

Larry Bird wasn't drafted to team of HOF players.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1980.html

Larry Bird WAS the reason they were successful, and became better once they got McHale and Parish.

Michael Jordan wasn't drafted to a team of HOF players.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1985.html

Michael Jordan WAS the reason they were successful, and became better once they got Pippen, Horace Grant, and Phil Jackson.

Kawhi Leonard was traded to a team with Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. Their coach is Gregg Popovich who has already won 4 NBA Championships.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2012.html

The Spurs were already good WITHOUT Leonard. To me, Kawhi is a great player in a good situation, but he's not a great player.

[eltyboogie]

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Did you watch the Indiana vs San Antonio game?

Kawhi locked him down and couldnt be stopped by him.

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thats literally one game lol

[trandoanhung1991]

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And so does every nba champion.
Ask Larry about his team full of future hofers.

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Just saying, which GSW players you think will be HoFers?

At best I'd say only Curry has a strong case, the rest not so much.

[eltyboogie]

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Just saying, which GSW players you think will be HoFers?

At best I'd say only Curry has a strong case, the rest not so much.

uh Klay and iggy will for sure be hall of famers
barbosa will also be a hall of famer
regardless gsw is stacked and curry didnt even win finals mvp lol

[jake44np]

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Dude, do I really have to teach you NBA History? There's being drafted to an ideal situation, then there's developing into an ideal situation.

Larry Bird wasn't drafted to team of HOF players.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1980.html

Larry Bird WAS the reason they were successful, and became better once they got McHale and Parish.

Michael Jordan wasn't drafted to a team of HOF players.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1985.html

Michael Jordan WAS the reason they were successful, and became better once they got Pippen, Horace Grant, and Phil Jackson.

Kawhi Leonard was traded to a team with Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. Their coach is Gregg Popovich who has already won 4 NBA Championships.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2012.html

The Spurs were already good WITHOUT Leonard. To me, Kawhi is a great player in a good situation, but he's not a great player.

Well said, great post!

[jake44np]

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uh Klay and iggy will for sure be hall of famers
barbosa will also be a hall of famer
regardless gsw is stacked and curry didnt even win finals mvp lol

Barbosa? Lol
Really? Lol
You just lost me there.
Not many journeyman guys in the HOF that have career averages of 11 ppg 2.2 apg and 3 RPG. Lol
Same with Iggy, totally not a HOFer.
Way too many better wing players in his era.
Dude is a role player that has averaged 13 ppg for his career, hardly a HOFer.

[eltyboogie]

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Barbosa? Lol
Really? Lol
You just lost me there.
Not many journeyman guys in the HOF that have career averages of 11 ppg 2.2 apg and 3 RPG. Lol
Same with Iggy, totally not a HOFer.
Way too many better wing players in his era.
Dude is a role player that has averaged 13 ppg for his career, hardly a HOFer.

you must not understand how the basketball hof works lol...

[EarvGotti]

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uh Klay and iggy will for sure be hall of famers
barbosa will also be a hall of famer
regardless gsw is stacked and curry didnt even win finals mvp lol

[jake44np]

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you must not understand how the basketball hof works lol...

Wow, u really think Barbosa is a HOFer and u are questioning that I don't know how the HOF works. Lol
Best joke I have heard all year.

[trandoanhung1991]

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Knew it.

IMO only Draymond and maybe Klay stands a chance of being in the HoF. But I highly doubt it.

Iggy no way in hell is a HoF.

Lol. GSW is actually not really a stacked team. Not like Spurs where probably Tony Parker, Manu and Timmy will be HoFers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

Yeah... GSW is a stacked team, right. Like Spurs isn't super stacked. Or Cavs. Or OKC. Compared to those 3 GSW is just an average team, lol.

[DreamAgain]

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you must not understand how the basketball hof works lol...

Yes it's a basketball hall of fame and not an NBA one but what the heck has Barbosa EVER done outside of the NBA worthy of being in the hall of fame?

As far as Iggy goes he's a key part of our national team and does have a gold medal but doubt it will be enough to get in to the hall of fame.

Guys like Pau Gasol have a long and impressive Euro track record along with being good NBA players will make it in to the hall of fame for sure. Barbosa does not fall in to this category.. like.. at all.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

Hall of fame probability list barbosa (surprised he's even on the list tbh) and Iggy under the "ya not gonna happen" category lol.

[McG]

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barbosa will also be a hall of famer

This could be one of the craziest things I've ever read, if you are actually serious. You clearly know nothing about the HOF, maybe if he was some type of international legend, considering he's Brazilian. Perhaps you don't realize who the HOF is for, I'll use current players for example; LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Curry, Pierce, Garnett, etc. Not for role players that 11 PTS per game.

Here's a list of a few players that compare to Barbosa-

Brevin Knight
John Barry
Raja Bell
Larry Hughes

-Reference "Similarity Scores"- http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barbole01.html

[SpeedyClaxton]

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I don't think many players from GSW would end up in hall of fame, first of all GSW is on the begining of their rise as the team and being hall of famer means being great for the most part of career. When one team is considered a dynasty then we talk about potential hall of famers, remember early 2000's Lakers ? From that particular team sure hall of famers are Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal and maybe Derek Fisher, guys like Lamar Odom won't see basketball hall of fame.
Hall of fame considers individual accolades as well as team accolades but being impressive player individually ranks more so guys like Allen Iverson are going to be HoF'ers, not every role player on championship team is going to be HoF, NEVER !!!