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  • Kodii Rockets
    I smell sulfur...
    • Sep 2007
    • 2670

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

    Originally posted by DBMcGee3
    They dropped his rebounding yesterday, despite a slight increase in rebounding #s, they drop his shot IQ, despite him shooting the best he has all year. And again, if you watched him play, he's been the quickest and most explosive all year the past 5 games, but suddenly completely loses the ability to dunk in 1 day?

    I'm not saying he should be an 85 overnight, but there's zero reason for him to be falling right now.
    As a diehard Bulls fan who's made note that Derrick Rose hasn't dunked a basketball in game since game 1 of the Bucks series last playoffs.

    I have a hard time understanding why you guys have a problem with his dunk rating dropping. He's just not that guy anymore, if anything, the 40 point decrease is long overdue.

    I agree his lateral quickness/first step is looking similar to old DRose, but as far as the dunking, explosive, crazy athletic DRose? That ship has sailed.

    I don't remember a time when he's had less than 4 turnovers per game, and his ball handling just isn't there, don't know what the problem is with that, but it's not. So the decrease in ball control is also justifiable.
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    • CookNBA03
      Pro
      • Jul 2011
      • 677

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

      Originally posted by Hornetz
      That is the perfect question and I have your answer. Draymond Green is not comparable to the likes of Blake Griffin because of the margins and discrepancies of his statistics. Like I said if 0.5 steal, 0.7 block, 1 rebound is a large enough margin more while the points/gm, usage is obviously lacking then there you have it. The players are not equal. They should not have equal ratings.

      Rajon Rondo can pass the ball as well as he would like but until he has points like Curry, or Paul, or Lillard, or any points then he will not be considered all-star, just a great passer. Draymond Green is no all-star, just all-around. I say that statement unsure though because of the wack Hawks players that were in the all-star game last season.

      EDIT: I forgot to mention Rajon Rondo's lockdown defense of course.
      You're forgetting to look at the advanced stats between the two as well, Draymond is beating him in just about every category there. Rondo can pass and he can play defense but he isn't even remotely close to how good offensively the other guards are. Atlanta players deserved to be there last year, they were killing it. If they we're able to duplicate their play from the RS to the PS, they would've taken Cleveland 6-7 games(even though they were without 2 of their 3 best players).

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      • QNo
        MVP
        • Nov 2014
        • 1821

        #48
        Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

        Originally posted by Hornetz
        I read his post, he asked how the difference in numbers considered Blake Griffin an on all-star level (in my opinion) and Draymond's are not, which I explained. You actually have no point or argument with your post than to weakly critique me, as if I do not know basketball? "This is not the 80s" I have put up great counter-arguments to make my point while you pull out statements such as..... You deserve no more of my time.
        You're missing that Draymond's stats are much better than Blakes because you only look at points etc. Look at this data again - Draymond is a much better defender and passer, a better offensive rebounder, has a higher eFG% and TS% (whereas you only mentioned FG%). Most importantly, he makes his team a lot better, exemplified by his unbelievable Net Rating. Even if Dray's blocks and steals are not THAT much higher, his presence on the floor makes a way bigger difference on how his team defends than Blake's presence does for his. He is the main reason that the Warriors can run the switching scheme that they run and that the best lineup in NBA history, the Death Lineup, is so incredibly effective.

        The only thing Blake is better at is scoring, but even so, the Warriors score 8 points per possession more when Draymond is on the floor than the Clippers do when Blake is on the floor.

        Blake is a terrific player, but not as good in the regular season as he is when he's playing at his best. In a fantasy draft, Blake would always get drafted over Draymond, but Draymond's been having a better regular season than Blake. Look at how well the Clippers have been playing now that Blake is injured.

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        • CookNBA03
          Pro
          • Jul 2011
          • 677

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

          Originally posted by QNo
          You're missing that Draymond's stats are much better than Blakes because you only look at points etc. Look at this data again - Draymond is a much better defender and passer, a better offensive rebounder, has a higher eFG% and TS% (whereas you only mentioned FG%). Most importantly, he makes his team a lot better, exemplified by his unbelievable Net Rating. Even if Dray's blocks and steals are not THAT much higher, his presence on the floor makes a way bigger difference on how his team defends than Blake's presence does for his. He is the main reason that the Warriors can run the switching scheme that they run and that the best lineup in NBA history, the Death Lineup, is so incredibly effective.

          The only thing Blake is better at is scoring, but even so, the Warriors score 8 points per possession more when Draymond is on the floor than the Clippers do when Blake is on the floor.

          Blake is a terrific player, but not as good in the regular season as he is when he's playing at his best. In a fantasy draft, Blake would always get drafted over Draymond, but Draymond's been having a better regular season than Blake. Look at how well the Clippers have been playing now that Blake is injured.
          The Clippers are weird as hell though. One of Paul or Griffin would get hurt and next thing you know, they're making a run. I hope they continue this even when Blake gets back, would make an interesting 4 team race between the Warriors, Spurs, Thunder, and Clippers.

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          • spoofrice11
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 671

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

            I'm happy to see more updates. I will start my MyLeague tonite or tomorrow. Think they will update again during the night, like they have the last 2 days?

            A lot of FT updates today and a few players got full updates.
            Good to see guys that have been playing great lately like Butler & Wall upgraded.

            ***Anyone know if they did/do update players tendencies as well (so guys scoring more get more touches, take more shots and stuff)?

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            • Semipro91
              Rookie
              • Nov 2011
              • 172

              #51
              Originally posted by Hornetz
              These ratings almost gave me a heart attack. It wouldn't matter if I didn't even play online, but I do. Now the classic teams must be brought out to due to worries of inaccuracies (in my own irrelevant opinion of course.)

              Draymond Green gets two back to back triple doubles and thats +4 in two days? I get he's having an amazing season but an 89 overall does NOT reflect a season averaging 14p, 9r, 7a. Now this guy is with superstar PFs in the league such as: Anthony Davis, Lamarcus Aldridge, and even Blake Griffin! Up his rebounding, up his passing vision + IQ and thats it Mr. Roster Editors.

              CJ McCollum: Where to start? This guy is in his third season averaging 21 points thus far. Up from 6p/gm last season and 5/gm his rookie season he is playing amazing when the Trailblazers have only D. Lillard who's averaging 24 points but he takes a hit! Never in my life have I cared about the trailblazers but why why why? I don't know why I need legit, accurate answers.
              That is why these are "rolling" ratings. Once Draymond cools off, so will some of his ratings.

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              • ksuttonjr76
                All Star
                • Nov 2004
                • 8662

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                Originally posted by SpeedyClaxton
                I was talking to video game, dude plays good defense and is pretty much good athlete yet in game is useless for me
                Lol...pretty much. He dropped Chase Budinger so much that I started using GRIII. He's basically a second coming of a Gerald Green or JR Smith type player due to the high physical ratings.

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                • Thelorn
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 874

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                  Lol at John Wall's
                  If flopping was rewarded in real life as it is in the NBA, I’d swerve into guard rails each time someone changed lanes in front of me. - Alan Hahn

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                  • DBMcGee3
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1166

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Kodii Rockets
                    As a diehard Bulls fan who's made note that Derrick Rose hasn't dunked a basketball in game since game 1 of the Bucks series last playoffs.

                    I have a hard time understanding why you guys have a problem with his dunk rating dropping. He's just not that guy anymore, if anything, the 40 point decrease is long overdue.

                    I agree his lateral quickness/first step is looking similar to old DRose, but as far as the dunking, explosive, crazy athletic DRose? That ship has sailed.

                    I don't remember a time when he's had less than 4 turnovers per game, and his ball handling just isn't there, don't know what the problem is with that, but it's not. So the decrease in ball control is also justifiable.
                    He's only averaging 2.7 TOs for the year, which gives him about a 2:1 assist/TO ratio. If he had been on a streak of notably sloppy play, I'd get it, but again, he's playing the best he has all year and he's still dropping. I agree with you that his dunk rating should be much lower than it has been, just seems funny that they drop it so severely overnight while he's looking the best he has in 4 years physically. I love the fact that 2k does such frequent updates, but if you're going to drop a guy every time he plays poorly, then you have to show him some love when he's playing well, right?

                    Butler dropped a couple of points after having that monster game in Toronto, then he plays mediocre ball last night and gains 2 points overall. Just doesn't add up to me, I think they'd be better off doing weekly updates rather than killing themselves making knee jerk reactions daily.

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                    • Funk Snuka
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 27

                      #55
                      To many complainers for my lacking! "This guys to high" or "this guys to low". Lol

                      Good lord, play the basketball game an stfu.

                      Nobodies perfect. No you. Not game makers. Not ratings evaluators. Deal with it

                      Move along.

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                      • MoneyOvaHuds
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 3491

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                        JIMMY !!!!!!!!!

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                        • MoneyOvaHuds
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 3491

                          #57
                          NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                          Originally posted by DBMcGee3
                          He's only averaging 2.7 TOs for the year, which gives him about a 2:1 assist/TO ratio. If he had been on a streak of notably sloppy play, I'd get it, but again, he's playing the best he has all year and he's still dropping. I agree with you that his dunk rating should be much lower than it has been, just seems funny that they drop it so severely overnight while he's looking the best he has in 4 years physically. I love the fact that 2k does such frequent updates, but if you're going to drop a guy every time he plays poorly, then you have to show him some love when he's playing well, right?



                          Butler dropped a couple of points after having that monster game in Toronto, then he plays mediocre ball last night and gains 2 points overall. Just doesn't add up to me, I think they'd be better off doing weekly updates rather than killing themselves making knee jerk reactions daily.

                          I agree , rose off the last 10 games should at least be an 80 or 81 . Just lower his dunking and some 3 outside shooting attributes. Physically in quickness he's been looking like his old days a lil . His finishing has been better, his mid range is getting back to it was the year before his MVP season where he shot the best mid range % for PGs and defensively Rose has been solid as always . Just slips on sometimes with the back cuts but his on ball defense is always there














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                          • Mbunn1993
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 870

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                            Has Marc Gasol really been that bad this year? That he's now an 82? I haven't watched many Grizzlies games but he went from a stud DPOY C to an 82 in 2K?... yikes! Now I need to watch them more if I can

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                            • Hopsin
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 753

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

                              Originally posted by DBMcGee3
                              He's only averaging 2.7 TOs for the year, which gives him about a 2:1 assist/TO ratio. If he had been on a streak of notably sloppy play, I'd get it, but again, he's playing the best he has all year and he's still dropping. I agree with you that his dunk rating should be much lower than it has been, just seems funny that they drop it so severely overnight while he's looking the best he has in 4 years physically. I love the fact that 2k does such frequent updates, but if you're going to drop a guy every time he plays poorly, then you have to show him some love when he's playing well, right?



                              Butler dropped a couple of points after having that monster game in Toronto, then he plays mediocre ball last night and gains 2 points overall. Just doesn't add up to me, I think they'd be better off doing weekly updates rather than killing themselves making knee jerk reactions daily.

                              It's starting to get annoying, a few weeks back I wouldn't be to overly mad at this, but he's been balling lately, not MVP like but pretty good. It makes no sense that he is still declining.. He's consistently attacking the goal, pushing the pace, finding open teammates. Why is he still dropping?

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                              • bwright25
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 69

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Hornetz
                                These ratings almost gave me a heart attack. It wouldn't matter if I didn't even play online, but I do. Now the classic teams must be brought out to due to worries of inaccuracies (in my own irrelevant opinion of course.)

                                Draymond Green gets two back to back triple doubles and thats +4 in two days? I get he's having an amazing season but an 89 overall does NOT reflect a season averaging 14p, 9r, 7a. Now this guy is with superstar PFs in the league such as: Anthony Davis, Lamarcus Aldridge, and even Blake Griffin! Up his rebounding, up his passing vision + IQ and thats it Mr. Roster Editors.

                                CJ McCollum: Where to start? This guy is in his third season averaging 21 points thus far. Up from 6p/gm last season and 5/gm his rookie season he is playing amazing when the Trailblazers have only D. Lillard who's averaging 24 points but he takes a hit! Never in my life have I cared about the trailblazers but why why why? I don't know why I need legit, accurate answers.
                                Draymond is the MVP right now of the NBA. The warriors would not be what they are without him. IMO he is more imporatnt than curry is to the team as a whole.

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