Whose idea was it.....?

[SirGaryColeman]

Re: Whose idea was it.....?

It was YOUR idea! That's right YOU, the fans!

Until they SKIP making a game for a year, these little problems will continue to happen, but nobody wants them to stop sh*tting these games out, just look at this poll: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...st-future.html

EVERYONE seems to think its a good idea to make a game in less than a year's time. Imagine if they actually took a year off to fix all the BS problems? It's our fault, we need to give them more time to fix the little problems instead of rushing a game out.

[Sleepy59]

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On Ball defense is not that difficult at all and it would be even easier if you could depend on your teammates to not give 6-7 feet of space to shooters, give up easy backdoor cuts, leave the lane unguarded for slashers etc. You have to babysit CPU defenders to get them to play some semblance of good defense. It is ridiculously easy to past a CPU defender. All you have to do is pick a direction and get the CPU going that way and execute a spin move/behind the back dribble in the opposite direction; that will result in a free run to hoop for a dunk 8/10 times.

That would be extremely repetetive. What happened to variety? last year you could play basketball and get around lazy off-ballers. Now you need to do the same cheezy move over and over. That's why everyone complains they are not satisfied, even if they are winning. It has gotten so bad, that experts are suggestion you "cheese" to get around them. On-ball was satisfying back when the game didnt semi play for you by pulling you everywhere, pressing buttons for you, etc.

[Hustle Westbrook]

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On Ball defense is not that difficult at all and it would be even easier if you could depend on your teammates to not give 6-7 feet of space to shooters, give up easy backdoor cuts, leave the lane unguarded for slashers etc. You have to babysit CPU defenders to get them to play some semblance of good defense. It is ridiculously easy to past a CPU defender. All you have to do is pick a direction and get the CPU going that way and execute a spin move/behind the back dribble in the opposite direction; that will result in a free run to hoop for a dunk 8/10 times.

This.

I have no problem with On Ball Defense this year, in fact I think it's the best hat it's ever been.

My issues with the defense in this game pertain to the actual CPU. I've never seen in anything like it in regards to the CPU on defense in this game.

Bad switching logic, clueless on the fastbreak, bad pick and roll defense, unnecessary rotations, constant biting on pump fakes, lack of urgency when hustling back on defense.

I'm not sure what went wrong this year.

[jada855]

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8 bullet points of things you find wrong! Yikes reminds me of a client mock up only to find out they will go with your original idea in the beginning!

In my opinion this doesn't help the game! Give constructive feedback or ideas on how to improve if you see something wrong! The dev's and people who work at these game companies are just like me and you wake up, work, go home eat and sleep and do it all over again the next day. No one is super human!


No one or nothing is perfect! NBA 2k is evolving and can only get better I myself have spent hours playing the game. If you want to improve something then focus on that! Maybe you have good ideas I don't know!

Sometimes you just got to be thankful for what you have!

[Sleepy59]

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This.

I have no problem with On Ball Defense this year, in fact I think it's the best hat it's ever been.

My issues with the defense in this game pertain to the actual CPU. I've never seen in anything like it in regards to the CPU on defense in this game.

Bad switching logic, clueless on the fastbreak, bad pick and roll defense, unnecessary rotations, constant biting on pump fakes, lack of urgency when hustling back on defense.

I'm not sure what went wrong this year.

Lmao if on-ball is so good this year, why has there been a huge influx of offballers. Why has everyone suddenly decided to play off-ball and have success.

[KingTocco]

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Lmao if on-ball is so good this year, why has there been a huge influx of offballers. Why has everyone suddenly decided to play off-ball and have success.

On-Ball is nice this year.

Nobody wants to put in the work on defense, want everything handed to them for easy transition buckets or they just want to chill under the basket and grab boards all game.

Offballers are all over the place every year, this is nothing new.


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[Hustle Westbrook]

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Lmao if on-ball is so good this year, why has there been a huge influx of offballers. Why has everyone suddenly decided to play off-ball and have success.

A huge influx? You have numbers to back that up because I'm not sure how you can possibly tell. On Ball Deense could be the best ever and people will still play off-ball regardless.

[nova91]

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That would be extremely repetetive. What happened to variety? last year you could play basketball and get around lazy off-ballers. Now you need to do the same cheezy move over and over. That's why everyone complains they are not satisfied, even if they are winning. It has gotten so bad, that experts are suggestion you "cheese" to get around them. On-ball was satisfying back when the game didnt semi play for you by pulling you everywhere, pressing buttons for you, etc.

You don't have to either of those they're are just easiest to pull off; you can also get by with simple crossovers, hesitations etc. I'm far from a dribble master but beating the CPU off the dribble is very easy. The only real defense the game has against it is the suction defense and you can easily beat that once you're past half court.

[x_NBA_x]

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This is why 2K comes with an array of options to customize the game to suit needs to overcome these issues.. They create the best they can in mid-level ground.. Then if you want to play offline and have it harder you can adjust the sliders to represent that, tweak attributes/tendencies etc.. Online you can choose to play in leagues etc and with the right people you can have it sim and the correct sliders there too..

Game modes like Pro-Am/Park/MyTeam are going to be easier, as it will try it's best to appeal to the majority and casual gamer.. If a new player picks the game up, like most online game modes in sports games, it makes the transition as smooth and easy as possible to help with future sales etc.

[BA2929]

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Disclaimer: This IS a rant. I apologize but some of this stuff makes me scratch my head. Before you say I'm just butthurt because I probably lost let me just say that I don't mind losing it's just the way I lose that bothers me (I actually have a good win/loss ratio though). Oh and by the way...I do love the game but some of this stuff is unacceptable gameplay wise.

1. Whose idea was it to allow people to turbo everywhere, do dribble moves and jump around everywhere without penalty? Fatigue doesn't seem to set in EVER in 2K. Nobody else notice this is a problem?

2. Whose idea was it to make the game so fundamentally unsound? Why does my A.I. not box out? Why is it that when I pick up a man during a fastbreak the CPU controlled defender comes to the man I'm guarding leaving the other side wide open? Why are rotations on defense SO awful!

3. Whose idea was it to have wide open fastbreak dunks get chased down so much? And by literally anybody! No fouls get called EVER. You know how hard it is to chase down block a dunk? You have to be UBER athletic ala LeBron to accomplish this.

4. Whose idea was it to make my defender fall...just because??? This one really gets me. Lol No flop button pressed yet he just....falls. Explain that...

5. Whose idea was it to make players jump backcourt when being ball denied right next to the halfcourt line? A more general question is...why are players not aware of where they are on the court? It's 2016!

6. Whose idea was it to bail players out with foul calls when they have nowhere to go under the rim. I didn't jump. I'm holding my ground. Why was a foul called? What else am I supposed to do? You want me to move so he can shoot?

7. Whose idea was it to make the "contest shot" button make you jump? There's already a jump button. I do not want to jump when I press this. I want to contest. If you make me jump I get out of position. I see what you were trying to do but make me contest if I get faked...not jump altogether.

8. Whose idea was it to have the defense jog back. Especially when the man they're guarding is CLEARLY in front of them? So annoying. I can't control the whole team. That's a lot of switching and way too much work.

That's all I can think of right now. Again I love the game it's just things that are inconsistent, things that don't make sense that give ya headaches.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...pet-peeve.html

[Sleepy59]

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Have you guys not seen all the threads about being pulled to the person you're supposed to be guarding? And as a result of that, on-ball D players can not rotate properly, and or properly defend someone cutting without being pulled back to their "assigned player". It's funny how everyone saying "on-ball is fine" subsequently suggest making off-ball even more effective. I don't need numbers to be able to see that a majority of twitch streamers, notorious youtubers and about 90% of my online opponents play off-ball now. Yes there have been off-ballers before, but they used to be penalised. Now they're rewarded with OP cpu controlled defenders and magnets.

[The 24th Letter]

Whose idea was it.....?

.....nm

nothing wrong with OBD though...

[Sleepy59]

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.....nm

nothing wrong with OBD though...

Magnets are wrong with obd.

[psydefx]

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2. Whose idea was it to make the game so fundamentally unsound? Why does my A.I. not box out? Why is it that when I pick up a man during a fastbreak the CPU controlled defender comes to the man I'm guarding leaving the other side wide open? Why are rotations on defense SO awful!

yes, yes! i haven't played the game in months just because of these frustrations.

[TalenT]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...pet-peeve.html

Lol Yeah, I actually just saw that. They could probably go under the same category but these ain't no damn pet peeves to me. They're flat out complaints. Haha!

While I'm at it I'd like to add another: Whose idea was it to have a spot up shooter (Kyle Korver, Mike Dunleavy, Klay Thompson) cut to the basket when you pass it to them when they were wide open for the jumper?