Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

[spreadthem]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

I currently play with a 6'11 center and i kill in the pro am. I really don't understand you...what are you, like 12 years old? trial and error my friend...that's how you get to know which player best suits you. 7'3 is just not for me..i'd rather be smaller so can run faster and help out on defense and getting to rebounds quicker. but what the hell do i know? If i leave it up to you, I'm some 7'3 Jamal Crawford who shoots 3's all day...

I said play competitive online basketball..meaning my Pro Am team is highly ranked on Xbox...so if i'm shooting 3's all day for my team and I'm the center, who's grabbing my rebounds? my PG? My 2 guard?...you sound ridiculous. I play my position, but i'm nasty on the sticks so i make my position look good. If you watched me play you'd question if i was a big man or a tall small forward...any ways i'm off this.

Whats your team? I've an xbox, I'll look you up and call you out on your bluff. Well if you are the one shooting 3's all day most likely the person grabbing your rebounds is the opposition defence and if anyone on your team is on the offensive boards you's do have a PF yes? Anthony Davis ever come to mind?

Also pointing out that a PG or SG can't rebound, I'm a 6'2" PG and I averaged 15rpg over 82 games on HOF Sim. So wheres your logic in that Einstein? I'm an elite defender with steals and blocks also and my Pacers went 74-8 for the season because of that. Not being a big and standing under the paint. Head out of your hole.

I would question if you are a big man? standing at 6'11" you are a big man!

With this attribute block group that you love because being good at frees means you can shoot threes (which is probably your motto) You ever invest in the rebounding category?

[dnyce87]

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@ breakstarter

Still trollin' I see and now making assumptions about how I play? Lol it sounds like you're taking it personal by trolling on here as hard as you say you play haha. Nowhere in that post was I assuming the poster I quoted played a certain way or that I play a certain way.

Why is it that you seem to take people's posts out of context, continue to rant about online competitiveness, and mention things that have nothing to do with my posts? Along with these outrageous assumptions you sound like a narcissist. We can agree to disagree man no hard feelings. This won't affect your W/L record in 2k so you can relax and keep your competitive spirit on the sticks lol.

For the record in my post, no one asked for a SIM vs Cheese debate, no one was whining about casual players, no one failed to realize anything about countering cheese because no one was talking about it in the 1st place, no one was disrespecting players who don't have time to sit and grind their myplayer, and lastly I'd appreciate it if you can read everything in my posts from here on out (if you so desire) and please stop making assumptions. It will shorten your posts tremendously and get right to the point if you're trying to argue something.

[Korrupted]

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@Breakstarter

You're the reason why 2k is a bunch of cheesers. Spending a day or two on Rookie Casual to get badges isn't grinding, its exploiting a flaw in the system. If that wasn't possible you would have no badges because you're clearly not cut out for HOF or the CPU having any advantage over you.

You dominate that online game with your rookie casual badges while I sit in my Terminal 23 that I played every single game in an 82 games season to get, while I have completed 88 practices, while I have played over 250 games on HOF so that everything I have achieved is legit. Rookie casual and unlimited 3's and perfect releases doesn't exist in real life so don't even claim it's grinding. Grinding is playing the game the way its meant to be played so you earn VC and you earn badges according to your playstyle.

One of the easiest badges to get is behind the back and I still don't have it because I don't do behind the back moves. I'm not gonna sit there and spam behind the back all for the sake of a badge.

I have my 2 rings, rookie of the year, 3 All-star and 2 MVP finals and season MVP awards to help me sleep at night while you have 3 centres that stand in the paint in park or pro am holding a screen then jumping for a rebound to putback. Probably that much of a cheeser you haven't even upgraded rebounding by anything.

SMH you are the definition of a casual.

Do you want a cookie? Why are you knocking the next person for how they get their badges and attributes? Some people rather skip through MyCareer and get to the park as quick as possible. I personally don't enjoy MyCareer whatsoever now. I play on rookie casual to get badges and attributes. I have no shame in doing so and I'm pretty sure it's a ton of people in the community that do/feel the same way. I'd rather play actual people than the computer any day. You can have all those accolades you've listed but all those are out the window the minute you step in the park, stage or pro am brodie

[Mbunn1993]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

This post is literally going no where now. Endless bitching that supports nothing about trying to improve aspects of the game. Great community, guys.

[abuC]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

Whats your team? I've an xbox, I'll look you up and call you out on your bluff. Well if you are the one shooting 3's all day most likely the person grabbing your rebounds is the opposition defence and if anyone on your team is on the offensive boards you's do have a PF yes? Anthony Davis ever come to mind?

Also pointing out that a PG or SG can't rebound, I'm a 6'2" PG and I averaged 15rpg over 82 games on HOF Sim. So wheres your logic in that Einstein? I'm an elite defender with steals and blocks also and my Pacers went 74-8 for the season because of that. Not being a big and standing under the paint. Head out of your hole.

I would question if you are a big man? standing at 6'11" you are a big man!

With this attribute block group that you love because being good at frees means you can shoot threes (which is probably your motto) You ever invest in the rebounding category?

You're not rebounding with a 6'2" guard against good pro-am teams, he's talking specifically about Pro-Am.

[SteveQ]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

Yea this thread went left but they should definitely make the attributes the way they used to be. It's terrible the way it currently is.

[BellSKA]

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Hell nah bruh...you tripping. I actually believe the casuals are the guys like you who dont play competitive online basketball and are completely content playing offline with your buddies. That's cool, but don't get mad when people out here are trying to win at whatever cost during an online match. The thing you fail to realize is, through trial and error, elite players like myself and others see almost every tactic and "cheese" moves countless times in matches and we build counter moves to those cheese moves, and then have a counter for whatever counter the person pulls next. This is Chess my guy NOT CHECKERS.

The Sim VS Cheese debate is old and tired and I'm not going to go down that road with you or anyone else. Just stop your whining about casual players because that's what the majority of posters are on OS.

Ya'll Don't respect people who don't have the time to sit and play a million games online all day. in a 24 hour day, I just don't have the time to dedicate hours upon hours grinding on a video game, clearly you do. More power to you my friend, but i'm gonna keep doing what i do.




I currently play with a 6'11 center and i kill in the pro am. I really don't understand you...what are you, like 12 years old? trial and error my friend...that's how you get to know which player best suits you. 7'3 is just not for me..i'd rather be smaller so can run faster and help out on defense and getting to rebounds quicker. but what the hell do i know? If i leave it up to you, I'm some 7'3 Jamal Crawford who shoots 3's all day...

I said play competitive online basketball..meaning my Pro Am team is highly ranked on Xbox...so if i'm shooting 3's all day for my team and I'm the center, who's grabbing my rebounds? my PG? My 2 guard?...you sound ridiculous. I play my position, but i'm nasty on the sticks so i make my position look good. If you watched me play you'd question if i was a big man or a tall small forward...any ways i'm off this.

Thanks for commandeering this thread and making it a flame throwing contest. I'm not going to insult your opinions because it won't do any good. You are set in your ways. This was a petition towards the idea of ungrouping the bucket system. You've said your "peace", now stop trolling and move along.

Please don't come back with, "You don't say anything because you know I'm right". I'm not to worried about right/ wrong. You're just looking for suckers to hook and I'm not one of them. Stop with your childish antics and step aside.

Thanks again

[MarvellousOne]

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I would co-sign on this petition. I am all for having caps on attributes depending on players size and positions. But I was not a fan of the whole grouping attributes like they have done. You should have the freedom to place you stats in any category you choose to. After all the game should encourage players to be different in every way possible. MyPlayer has definitely gone from it's roots of being a personal experience to more of a micro-managed experience (At least this is how it feels). You can't even change your shot base and form anymore....

[SpeedyClaxton]

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Just want MyPlayer to be like actual NBA, there are roughly around 400 individuals all unique with unique skillsets. For example Kawhi Leonard & Tony Allen are defensive specialists in NBA and yet they bring different skillsets. That's all.

[spreadthem]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

Do you want a cookie? Why are you knocking the next person for how they get their badges and attributes? Some people rather skip through MyCareer and get to the park as quick as possible. I personally don't enjoy MyCareer whatsoever now. I play on rookie casual to get badges and attributes. I have no shame in doing so and I'm pretty sure it's a ton of people in the community that do/feel the same way. I'd rather play actual people than the computer any day. You can have all those accolades you've listed but all those are out the window the minute you step in the park, stage or pro am brodie

You probably missed the point where he called everyone that is a SIM player as casual gamer because we don't play online to cheese and exploit flaws in the game. You can play online all you like I don't care and rookie casual your badges thats totally fine by me, as long as you don't sit back in your chair and start calling people casual or not good enough at the game because they don't want to play online with little kids and ball hogs.

Thats my issue, not his method but his attitude.

[BlackMambaTheDream]

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I agree that the current bucket system doesn't allow
much playstyle diversity. But getting rid of it won't be
enough. If you keep the current caps it will be just the
same because you would just upgrade every single
attribute till it's maxed out and almost every player will
be the same again.

I think this topic is more complicated than some people
might think.

Sure, adding a huge amount of different playstyles would
obviously lead to diversity. If you add badge restrictions etc.
wouldn't that lead to a lot of extra work for 2K when it comes
to online balance? We have no indications online and offline
will be seperated anytime soon. Those changes would add
a lot of depth to online play (i assume, i don't play online),
i doubt 2K wants to put that much work in balancing out
so many playstyles. Would be happy if they want to prove me
otherwise tho.

I like the idea as someone in this thread mentioned where
you would keep the bucket system but add a lot more categories tho.
One of the most important things imo is to sacrifice other aspects
of your game if you want to max out shooting, athlethicism, defense,
inside scoring etc...penatlies should be NOTICABLE. I don't like the idea
that at the end of the day even every specialist turns out to be an
DO IT ALL guy.

[spreadthem]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

So back to the point of the thread.

The buckets system doesn't bring a realistic aspect of the game. Upgrading defense also upgrades blocking shots so if I wanna be good at stealing the ball then I'm also good at blocking LeBron going for a dunk? Before I upgraded defender I never even went for blocks but because I'm highly rating in defending and blocking I go for it and its just not realistic. I wish I could put all my defensive stats into steals and avoiding picks and lateral movement to not get crossed over.

I'm outside scoring which means I can get buckets from 3 but I can't hit a close range jumper for anything? My 3 is higher rated with more chance of going in from 25 feet than it does from 6 feet? The buckets system and inside, outside and balanced prevents you from being what you want, if I want to be an elite scorer with maxed out shooting at the peril of being a bad defender, I can't. I've to go balanced if I want decent inside and outside but I'm not elite at either.

If I want to be a playmaker and pass first and have amazing passes it also increases my handling skills to make me a great dribbler? What If I never dribble but I want to have off ball skills and passing abilities? Nope 2k makes everyone become Chris Paul if you max out your playmaking.

As I've said, you should have two separate players, one mycareer and one for online park and Pro-Am.

And to whoever said if I get rebounds in Pro-Am with a 6'2 PG, yes I do because I know positioning and boxing out but the 7'3 centres cheese it without even knowing anything about rebounding. Needs to end

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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I rather pick a style then go from there. Show us players that are comparable to that style .

[trandoanhung1991]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

Or just have a maximum number of points you can assign total and let players go from there.

Or have a maximum that's increased by a few points every off-season, based on number of games/minutes played in the season prior. More if you win a championship/MVP/FMVP/break records/lead the league in stats.

So if you grind over let's say 8-10 seasons you'd have enough available points to 'max out' your player if you won all the rings and accolades, provided you played close to 3000 minutes. If you play like just a role player, averaging something like 10/5/5 with around 2000 minutes played, after 10 seasons you might become a star/veteran.

Game grades should also be used to determine whether someone is a star/superstar/role player over the course of a season. Like if you consistently get A+ by scoring a lot of points, then you're an offensive superstar (AKA Harden). If you consistently get A+ defending then you're a defensive superstar (AKA Kwahi). IMO teammate grade should be split into multiple categories, as well as being harder to achieve an A+. It should resemble +/- more IMO.

IMO grades should be like this: A+ superstar/MVP, A superstar/all-star, A- star. Lower than that would be role player/6th man territory. So it should be really difficult to achieve a consistently high game grade.

Might even go further and keep the existing bucket system for the points awarded. If you're consistently a defensive superstar but only an offensive role player, then you'll be awarded mostly defense points, and barely any offense points, and vice versa.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

@trandoanhung1991 Your suggestion have potential but only if scoring becomes harder in terms of gameplay and ability to chuck many field goals as you want. Right now in MC i can score 40 at will (regardless of difficulty), i can take shots like Kobe in his final game and it's really silly.

For MC star players really need to play like themselves regardless of myplayer. If Durant or Harden take 20+ FG's most of games i want to see them doing that in MC. Right now Durant takes average of 12 shots per game for me in MC and Westbrook takes avg 13 shots per game which is laughable for that duo. That leaves me with option to chuck any game 30+ shots without any consequence, i can chase scoring title, defensive accolades, rebounds and every single stat because game allows that.

I am advocating big time for MC to take few steps forward and bring life into this mode. It gets boring to be best at every single part of MC, it takes only 1 or 2 seasons to have GOAT-like numbers and after that it just becomes plain boring. No diversity and no challenge if i know i can put each game at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 10 assists.